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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/04/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of you obviously didn't watch the same debate that I did. Even FOX news poll says Obama won. Don't get side tracked with facts though...... Quoting: DOUBLE-U-TEE-EFF?? [link to foxnewsinsider.com] Errrr .... first I have seen. More like the lib shills have redirected their effort from forums & chat rooms to spamming open polls on websites. An act of desperation. On that note, Toodles everyone. Off to Black Belt class for a few hours. Will check back later. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3475435 United States 10/04/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Said it before & I'll say it again.. Obama and that Wookie have no intentions of coming out of that house in November, they enjoy being the rulers of free-dumb. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10463447 Obama has his own special.. EBT-Card & I wouldn't doubt that Sasquatch has already threatened his handlers to "fix" this or she'll have him "..kick that phucking football so far down wind, ain't be none of'em gettin up." Just sayin.. you can take the Wookie out'a the gheto, but you ain't never scrubbing the gheto off that Wookie. Michele O = Wookie....OMG I will be laughing for at least a day on that one. |
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Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. |
*Heisenberg* User ID: 21948600 United States 10/04/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. Quoting: Major_Payne Don't make me dig out Obama's pre election promises from 08' He was more full of shite than any politician ever. Most transparent ever....ha Cut debt in half...ha Wont hire lobbyists....ha Wont take donations from wall st.....ha No red vs blue, he is a uniter....ha give me a break. What it really comes down to is capitalism and the free market. Or socialism and massive government. |
Copernica User ID: 17525775 United States 10/04/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. Quoting: Major_Payne Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. Quoting: Major_Payne Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ Coupon for Medicare and privatize Social Security. |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That simply isn’t true. Mr. Romney wants to restore the Bush-era tax cut that expires at the end of this year and largely benefits the wealthy. He wants to end the estate tax and the gift tax, providing a huge benefit only to those with multimillion-dollar estates, at a cost of more than $1 trillion over a decade to the deficit. He wants to preserve the generous rates on capital gains that benefit himself personally and others at his economic level. And he wants to cut everyone’s tax rates by 20 percent, which again would be a gigantic boon to the wealthy. [link to www.businessweek.com] |
*Heisenberg* User ID: 21948600 United States 10/04/2012 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. Quoting: Major_Payne Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ Coupon for Medicare and privatize Social Security. The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Romney giving a 20% tax cut across the board? He claimed last night he wasn't giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut. Which is it? He said we need less regulations on Wall Street and he wants to repeal Dodd Frank. He then said he wanted to increase regulations to limit the size of Wall Street Banks and determine what loan terms should be. Which is it? Less regulations or more? Pick one. He said he wasn't going to alter Medicare and then went on to explain how he was going to turn it into a voucher (coupon) system. He praised his own Healthcare plan in Massachusetts and said all States should follow his lead. They have, it's called Obamacare. Quoting: Major_Payne Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ Coupon for Medicare and privatize Social Security. The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. |
*Heisenberg* User ID: 21948600 United States 10/04/2012 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Copernica Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ Coupon for Medicare and privatize Social Security. The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24227576 United States 10/04/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i one starred you because you're promoting a political system that doesn't care about you or me. it's sad that the vast majority of americans are so clueless. robomney is nothing more than a dog and pony show to keep the fools entertained If you don't realize that ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES by now, like Obama said in 2008, I can't help ya. not surprised that you simply don't get it. congratulations on being part of the problem |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 10/04/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fact is Obama's campaign was 90% sure that Richy Rich take jobs off-shore Romney was going to say something stupid and goof-up. Quoting: Truth 1307494 Heck, I couldve debated against Romney and beat him with the facts. Obama was told to sit back talk nice and let him goof. You are delusional like all Obama supporters |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. |
*Heisenberg* User ID: 21948600 United States 10/04/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *Heisenberg* The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. Thanks, I took Econ at Cal Berkeley.... I don't need your spongebob level analysis Last Edited by *Evan on 10/04/2012 06:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24924823 United States 10/04/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *Heisenberg* The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. Even the former Communists of Russia and China are laughing their asses off at your Marxist rhetoric. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19863234 United States 10/04/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mmmm something interesting in this THREAD. Quoting: TRUTh 1307494 I See a racial divide I see a Rich vs Poor Divide I see Division in the Country I see Riots, I see Civil Divisions (war) Revolution. Someone is playing one against the other and playing everyone for a fool. Divide and RULE. You all lose no matter who wins Peace It is divisa et victus, divided and conquered, but after the conquest you can only rule over a united nation. That is why multi-cultural empires never last, and that is why the US will fragment along racial and cultural lines into many smaller countries. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1512435 United States 10/04/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Thread really sums up the election year: Quoting: Truth 1307494 Racial Divide Rich vs Poor Divide Division in the Country from every aspect you can think of Riots, Civil Divisions, protesting Someone is playing one against the other and playing everyone for a fool. Divide and RULE. You all lose no matter who wins I agree. There is a name for it. Put this phrase in google and read about it! Remember the Art of War? It is called: Psycho-social manipulation of the population. |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major_Payne You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. Even the former Communists of Russia and China are laughing their asses off at your Marxist rhetoric. Can you come up with another definition of Capitalism? This IS how our system works. We have thrown in some protections for the working class but those protections are constantly under attack. As for the Free Market, there is no such thing. All Markets require rules these rules are fluid and take on the characteristics of the current rule makers. Under Capitalism those rule makers tend to be the Capitalist or Elite class. Capitalism is always a struggle between the workers (producers) and the Capitalists. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19863234 United States 10/04/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Virtually every time Mr. Romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and Paul Ryan are actually running. The most prominent example, taking up the first half-hour of the debate, was on taxes. Mr. Romney claimed, against considerable evidence, that he had no intention of cutting taxes on the rich or enacting a tax cut that would increase the deficit. Quoting: Major_Payne That simply isn’t true. Mr. Romney wants to restore the Bush-era tax cut that expires at the end of this year and largely benefits the wealthy. He wants to end the estate tax and the gift tax, providing a huge benefit only to those with multimillion-dollar estates, at a cost of more than $1 trillion over a decade to the deficit. He wants to preserve the generous rates on capital gains that benefit himself personally and others at his economic level. And he wants to cut everyone’s tax rates by 20 percent, which again would be a gigantic boon to the wealthy. [link to www.businessweek.com] What is wrong with ending the estate tax and gift tax? Why should people work all their lives for something, only to have the government steal half of it? My family has a farm worth $3 million paid for. It took us 30 f-ing years of hard ass work to pay it off, it is not right that the heirs should have to sell it just to give blood money to a bunch of leaches. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19863234 United States 10/04/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Copernica Someone was listening! +1000000 Question: Was the voucher for medicare or for Social Security? or both? My memory is confused. :o\ Coupon for Medicare and privatize Social Security. The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. Retire? What the Hell is that? My Dad worked until he died, so will I. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19863234 United States 10/04/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *Heisenberg* The government hates when people have a choice. When there is competition....because the government always loses. Obama basically admitted that everyone would prefer the voucher system and would leave S.S You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. Have you ever studied the history of the Soviet Union? Do it, then whine about Capitalist exploiter's after seeing how the Apparatchik exploiter's screwed over the workers far worse than the capitalist ever dreamed of. |
Major_Payne User ID: 8714965 United States 10/04/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major_Payne You would have Insurance companies making the Voucher system look good until they draw enough people from Medicare to destroy (defund) it. Then they would start raising their rates. Tell me I'm wrong. Privatizing Social Security would put your retirement at the whim of the Stock Market. How many people would have lost their entire retirement in the last stock market crash. Wall Street just wants your money. They don't care if you retire or not. We can't have that evil evil free market getting involved... Yea, I noticed Obama feels the same way. There is no Free Market, just Capitalism. Capitalism is the social system which now exists in all countries of the world. Under this system, the means for producing and distributing goods (the land, factories, technology, transport system etc) are owned by a small minority of people. We refer to this group of people as the capitalist class. The majority of people must sell their ability to work in return for a wage or salary (who we refer to as the working class.) The working class are paid to produce goods and services which are then sold for a profit. The profit is gained by the capitalist class because they can make more money selling what we have produced than it cost to buy on the labour market. In this sense, the working class are exploited by the capitalist class. The capitalists live off the profits they obtain from exploiting the working class whilst reinvesting some of their profits for the further accumulation of wealth. Have you ever studied the history of the Soviet Union? Do it, then whine about Capitalist exploiter's after seeing how the Apparatchik exploiter's screwed over the workers far worse than the capitalist ever dreamed of. That's a great defense. We aren't getting screwed as bad. |