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40 Reasons To Ban Guns.. (edit..This is a PRO GUN THREAD, actually read it before commenting)

 
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:gun free zone:
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Uh, yeah, thats how it works, and, uh, VOTE FOR ME! I'm running as a Democrat.
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A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
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Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
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Okay, you need to back up what you are saying.. even a link would be great. You need to do research before spatting out.. Why do you say in the long run that does not hold water? It's not only about protection, it's about our freedom and our rights. But, you don't understand that and probably never will. If you really think your way is the better way, prove it.. tell/show me why or how!
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[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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1 reason to ban guns. SAVE LIVES.

End of discussion. Thank you.
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Then let's ban automobiles. SAVES LIVES.

End of discussion. Thank you.

IDIOT!!
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Yep.

And planes, and knives, and and and.. the list could go on forever. How about we just take some personal responsibility. The trigger doesn't pull itself.
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Well, I know two cases where the crime rate decreased significantly when firearms were made mandatory.

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The majority of deaths by gun in Switzerland were suicides rather than homicides :O. I suppose they should ban kitchen knives since most of their deaths involve bladed weapons.
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I wouldn't mind hearing from anybody who thinks a gun ban would be a good thing, but without being nasty about it. I truely want to understand the mindset.
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The "mindset" is very simply put, we have the right to defend ourselves form oppressive government and thugs on the streets and our highest law says so.
And this does not mean the government has the right to chisel away at who can have a gun and what type of gun it is.
I think "the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed "is simple and easy to understand, so simple even a liberal anti American gun grabbing congress can understand the meaning, and that there was a reason they made the wording so plain.
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Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


Okay, you need to back up what you are saying.. even a link would be great. You need to do research before spatting out.. Why do you say in the long run that does not hold water? It's not only about protection, it's about our freedom and our rights. But, you don't understand that and probably never will. If you really think your way is the better way, prove it.. tell/show me why or how!
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[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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I'll reply shortly.. I need to get off the computer for a bit
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Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


Okay, you need to back up what you are saying.. even a link would be great. You need to do research before spatting out.. Why do you say in the long run that does not hold water? It's not only about protection, it's about our freedom and our rights. But, you don't understand that and probably never will. If you really think your way is the better way, prove it.. tell/show me why or how!
 Quoting: novamom


[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

I'll reply shortly.. I need to get off the computer for a bit
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I could say that it's partly due to the difference in population, according to world bank Japan in 2011 was 127,817,277 and the U.S. in 2011 was 311,591,917, but Japan is also much much smaller. But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different. I wasn't thinking that because they are more ready to hand over their weapons, I was thinking that they have more respect than people in the U.S. What works for one, will not always work for another. We would have to take into concideration how what the crime rate was before the ban and to be even more fair, what was driving their rate up.
Because I am curious, I want to see if I can find stats before the gun ban.. and I will make another post as soon as I can.
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But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different.
 Quoting: novamom


First, look up the definition 'straw man'. Most people do not believe in banning guns, most governments don't believe in banning guns. Most countries don't have a ban on guns.

By posing the question as you did, you simply put up a straw man that is easy for pro gun people to knock down. Witness... well we should ban knives, or ban cars....

Fact, you need a license, insurance, tags, etc. to drive a car. It is extremely regulated by many levels of government. This level of government involvement is railed against by pro gun people.. so don't use the 'well they should ban cars' argument. It doesn't wash.

Supposition. Try walking into a bank, movie theater, with a couple of real samurai swords. Again, no one says to ban all guns, so banning knives is also a straw man argument, but try to walk into a movie theater with real swords and see what happens.

BUT.... the biggest argument I have for more gun control and regulation, well you took the words outta my mouth. Like you said...

. the cultures are different.

Your culture of guns, violence, etc. creates the difference. While an outright ban on guns would probably have negative consequences to innocent/regular people as a whole, this is due to the underlying system of violence that has endured in the US since the constitution. Most other western countries, if not all, have lower gun ownership, outright bans on assault type weapons and have a much lower death rate from gun violence.

The US has the honour of being in the ranks of the 'muzzie' countries for deaths by guns. Higher than Iran, per capita.
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Okay, you need to back up what you are saying.. even a link would be great. You need to do research before spatting out.. Why do you say in the long run that does not hold water? It's not only about protection, it's about our freedom and our rights. But, you don't understand that and probably never will. If you really think your way is the better way, prove it.. tell/show me why or how!
 Quoting: novamom


[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

I'll reply shortly.. I need to get off the computer for a bit
 Quoting: novamom


I could say that it's partly due to the difference in population, according to world bank Japan in 2011 was 127,817,277 and the U.S. in 2011 was 311,591,917, but Japan is also much much smaller. But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different. I wasn't thinking that because they are more ready to hand over their weapons, I was thinking that they have more respect than people in the U.S. What works for one, will not always work for another. We would have to take into concideration how what the crime rate was before the ban and to be even more fair, what was driving their rate up.
Because I am curious, I want to see if I can find stats before the gun ban.. and I will make another post as soon as I can.
 Quoting: novamom

I'm having a hard time finding any solid numbers but I learned that Japans laws against weapons have always been very strict, even before gun were ever made. I I can say that is the real reason why their firearms crime rate is so low. then never had enough of them to cause the same probems the U.S. has. Besides that, the people their are fine living in a police state, it's all they have ever known.
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I have a license to carry my .45 and am rarely without it. If a business puts up a no guns sign, I figure it's dangerous to be in there and shop else where...
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But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different.
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First, look up the definition 'straw man'. Most people do not believe in banning guns, most governments don't believe in banning guns. Most countries don't have a ban on guns.

By posing the question as you did, you simply put up a straw man that is easy for pro gun people to knock down. Witness... well we should ban knives, or ban cars....

Fact, you need a license, insurance, tags, etc. to drive a car. It is extremely regulated by many levels of government. This level of government involvement is railed against by pro gun people.. so don't use the 'well they should ban cars' argument. It doesn't wash.

Supposition. Try walking into a bank, movie theater, with a couple of real samurai swords. Again, no one says to ban all guns, so banning knives is also a straw man argument, but try to walk into a movie theater with real swords and see what happens.

BUT.... the biggest argument I have for more gun control and regulation, well you took the words outta my mouth. Like you said...

. the cultures are different.

Your culture of guns, violence, etc. creates the difference. While an outright ban on guns would probably have negative consequences to innocent/regular people as a whole, this is due to the underlying system of violence that has endured in the US since the constitution. Most other western countries, if not all, have lower gun ownership, outright bans on assault type weapons and have a much lower death rate from gun violence.

The US has the honour of being in the ranks of the 'muzzie' countries for deaths by guns. Higher than Iran, per capita.
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Japan also has had very strict weapons laws for over 500 years. Their crime rates were never high to begin with.. with or without guns!
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LOL at the edit

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U CANNOT change the constitution . Period. No mater what
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But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different.
 Quoting: novamom


First, look up the definition 'straw man'. Most people do not believe in banning guns, most governments don't believe in banning guns. Most countries don't have a ban on guns.

By posing the question as you did, you simply put up a straw man that is easy for pro gun people to knock down. Witness... well we should ban knives, or ban cars....

Fact, you need a license, insurance, tags, etc. to drive a car. It is extremely regulated by many levels of government. This level of government involvement is railed against by pro gun people.. so don't use the 'well they should ban cars' argument. It doesn't wash.

Supposition. Try walking into a bank, movie theater, with a couple of real samurai swords. Again, no one says to ban all guns, so banning knives is also a straw man argument, but try to walk into a movie theater with real swords and see what happens.

BUT.... the biggest argument I have for more gun control and regulation, well you took the words outta my mouth. Like you said...

. the cultures are different.

Your culture of guns, violence, etc. creates the difference. While an outright ban on guns would probably have negative consequences to innocent/regular people as a whole, this is due to the underlying system of violence that has endured in the US since the constitution. Most other western countries, if not all, have lower gun ownership, outright bans on assault type weapons and have a much lower death rate from gun violence.

The US has the honour of being in the ranks of the 'muzzie' countries for deaths by guns. Higher than Iran, per capita.
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Japan also has had very strict weapons laws for over 500 years. Their crime rates were never high to begin with.. with or without guns!
 Quoting: novamom


First, you kind of glossed over all the other more pertinent and contrary points. Typical right wing arguments is to ignore points. As for your point above...

That's what you said, that's what I said. The culture is different. The culture is different in 'most' asian countries where deadly assault is much lower than the west.'Most' western countries have much lower death rates by guns than the US, again because of culture.

We don't have the same history that has created this incredible and unbelievable faith in guns.

Think about it, you have had this 2nd amendment right for how long? Proof is in the pudding via your incarceration rates, murder rates, etc. that having guns does not make you safer.

You can look at a small sampling of people/location/time, but the fact is that as a country, you have a much higher death rate due to guns.
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U CANNOT change the constitution . Period. No mater what
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habeas corpus fuckwad. Your constitution is more and more just a shredded piece of paper, but you keep on worrying about yer guns.
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But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different.
 Quoting: novamom


First, look up the definition 'straw man'. Most people do not believe in banning guns, most governments don't believe in banning guns. Most countries don't have a ban on guns.

By posing the question as you did, you simply put up a straw man that is easy for pro gun people to knock down. Witness... well we should ban knives, or ban cars....

Fact, you need a license, insurance, tags, etc. to drive a car. It is extremely regulated by many levels of government. This level of government involvement is railed against by pro gun people.. so don't use the 'well they should ban cars' argument. It doesn't wash.

Supposition. Try walking into a bank, movie theater, with a couple of real samurai swords. Again, no one says to ban all guns, so banning knives is also a straw man argument, but try to walk into a movie theater with real swords and see what happens.

BUT.... the biggest argument I have for more gun control and regulation, well you took the words outta my mouth. Like you said...

. the cultures are different.

Your culture of guns, violence, etc. creates the difference. While an outright ban on guns would probably have negative consequences to innocent/regular people as a whole, this is due to the underlying system of violence that has endured in the US since the constitution. Most other western countries, if not all, have lower gun ownership, outright bans on assault type weapons and have a much lower death rate from gun violence.

The US has the honour of being in the ranks of the 'muzzie' countries for deaths by guns. Higher than Iran, per capita.
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Japan also has had very strict weapons laws for over 500 years. Their crime rates were never high to begin with.. with or without guns!
 Quoting: novamom


First, you kind of glossed over all the other more pertinent and contrary points. Typical right wing arguments is to ignore points. As for your point above...

That's what you said, that's what I said. The culture is different. The culture is different in 'most' asian countries where deadly assault is much lower than the west.'Most' western countries have much lower death rates by guns than the US, again because of culture.

We don't have the same history that has created this incredible and unbelievable faith in guns.

Think about it, you have had this 2nd amendment right for how long? Proof is in the pudding via your incarceration rates, murder rates, etc. that having guns does not make you safer.

You can look at a small sampling of people/location/time, but the fact is that as a country, you have a much higher death rate due to guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


I suppose you are right, having guns or not having gun all along is a part of the culture.. It's been a long day, I'm tired. And yes, we would have a higher gun related crime rates. And I suppose, looking at it from your perspective, as a whole, having guns has not made it safer, because we have had them all along and our crime rates are high.
Really, even if there were no guns in the U.S., the crime rate would still be high, because its our culture that makes it high.
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1 reason to ban guns. SAVE LIVES.

End of discussion. Thank you.
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if that is your argument, then we should ban cars as well. Over 32,000 people killed in vehicle accidents in 2011.
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Could someone who is in favor of more gun control please define "Gun Control"?

Too often the only thing you hear is more gun control, but what exactly do you mean by it?
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First, look up the definition 'straw man'. Most people do not believe in banning guns, most governments don't believe in banning guns. Most countries don't have a ban on guns.

By posing the question as you did, you simply put up a straw man that is easy for pro gun people to knock down. Witness... well we should ban knives, or ban cars....

Fact, you need a license, insurance, tags, etc. to drive a car. It is extremely regulated by many levels of government. This level of government involvement is railed against by pro gun people.. so don't use the 'well they should ban cars' argument. It doesn't wash.

Supposition. Try walking into a bank, movie theater, with a couple of real samurai swords. Again, no one says to ban all guns, so banning knives is also a straw man argument, but try to walk into a movie theater with real swords and see what happens.

BUT.... the biggest argument I have for more gun control and regulation, well you took the words outta my mouth. Like you said...

. the cultures are different.

Your culture of guns, violence, etc. creates the difference. While an outright ban on guns would probably have negative consequences to innocent/regular people as a whole, this is due to the underlying system of violence that has endured in the US since the constitution. Most other western countries, if not all, have lower gun ownership, outright bans on assault type weapons and have a much lower death rate from gun violence.

The US has the honour of being in the ranks of the 'muzzie' countries for deaths by guns. Higher than Iran, per capita.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


Japan also has had very strict weapons laws for over 500 years. Their crime rates were never high to begin with.. with or without guns!
 Quoting: novamom


First, you kind of glossed over all the other more pertinent and contrary points. Typical right wing arguments is to ignore points. As for your point above...

That's what you said, that's what I said. The culture is different. The culture is different in 'most' asian countries where deadly assault is much lower than the west.'Most' western countries have much lower death rates by guns than the US, again because of culture.

We don't have the same history that has created this incredible and unbelievable faith in guns.

Think about it, you have had this 2nd amendment right for how long? Proof is in the pudding via your incarceration rates, murder rates, etc. that having guns does not make you safer.

You can look at a small sampling of people/location/time, but the fact is that as a country, you have a much higher death rate due to guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


I suppose you are right, having guns or not having gun all along is a part of the culture.. It's been a long day, I'm tired. And yes, we would have a higher gun related crime rates. And I suppose, looking at it from your perspective, as a whole, having guns has not made it safer, because we have had them all along and our crime rates are high.
Really, even if there were no guns in the U.S., the crime rate would still be high, because its our culture that makes it high.
 Quoting: novamom


I'm....at a loss for words. I think you should try swearing, or telling me to go worry about my own country...etc.

Have a good night. I will leave you with one more thing I believe.

Is there really a concern about gun rights in the US? Is it really an issue? Or maybe, it's just like abortion/right to choose. It creates a very diametrically opposed populace that can then argue about the 'issues' when in fact, both parties are pretty much doing the exact same thing.

Obamacare --> derived from Romneycare
Bush deficits turned into Obama deficits.
Bush signed in the first bank bailout, Obama the 2nd.

To me, it seems like these are big non issues that just get people riled up while the true 'screwing'of the public is done elsewhere.

Habeas corpus baby! yeah!

good night.
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1 reason to ban guns. SAVE LIVES.

End of discussion. Thank you.
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if that is your argument, then we should ban cars as well. Over 32,000 people killed in vehicle accidents in 2011.
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So why didn't the killer use his car to deliberately commit mass murder? How often do you see people deliberately committing mass murder with a car. You don't. You argument is invalid. This discussion thread is about guns, not cars. That makes your argument doubly invalid. Please stay on topic with this thread and stop trying to change the subject to something other than guns. Thank you.

Saving lives is more important than saving guns. Support the gun ban. Support life.
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Banning guns actually raises crime rates! Break-ins happen more oftem knowing there is a much greater chance that people don't have guns in their homes.

PROOF: Look into it before posting this crap.
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If this is not true, then what is?

With sources please.
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I wouldn't mind hearing from anybody who thinks a gun ban would be a good thing, but without being nasty about it. I truely want to understand the mindset.
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These days, it seems the public 'needs' a safety helmet. It's not their fault, it's the way we're being programmed.

Assimilate or Annihilate!
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Yes, if there were no guns in the US then less people would be killed, but the fact of the matter is, we do have them, they are a part of our mixed culture. Our forefathers used them for hunting and protection, and people today still use them for the same readons, but the problem is our culture has evolved, it's not what it used to be. Somewhere along the lines people lost respect for one another and knowing ones neighbors is slowly becoming a thing of the past.. heck some people don't stay in one place long enough to get to kow their neighbors. Our elected officials have burned us to the point we do not trust them or even know who they are or what their names are for that matter.

I stand by my right to bare arms because I am safer. I am safer from the monster our society has molded. The monster who comes in many shapes and sizes from rapists to the government. As long as I have my gun, I will never be raped and as long as I have my gun, I can stand up to my government..

Good night all
hf
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Could someone who is in favor of more gun control please define "Gun Control"?

Too often the only thing you hear is more gun control, but what exactly do you mean by it?
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I'm not an expert, but I think that banning untrained children from firing automatic weapons at gun shows is a good start.

[link to abcnews.go.com]

15 year old 'supervisor'
gun advocate father
gun show sponsor

All showed extreme lack of judgement and common sense. If pro gun people can't behave properly then you need rules and regulations on when, where, how, and who can handle and use a gun.......just like driving a car.
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I stand by my right to bare arms because I am safer. I am safer from the monster our society has molded. The monster who comes in many shapes and sizes from rapists to the government. As long as I have my gun, I will never be raped and as long as I have my gun, I can stand up to my government..

Good night all
hf
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saying something doesn't make it so. these are simply assumptions on your part. If they make you feel better, that's great, but they aren't true.
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
 Quoting: novamom


People with guns
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I name thee the Denmark dip-shit. I shall knight you now with a mushroom stamp to your forehead. Now get lost Douche!!
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300 years, thats a big fat boy that tries to act like a grown up, the united states of big stupid boy with big guns.
If it hurts its because its true
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Don't worry about this guy. he is just upset because Denmark hasn't been a world power for over 400 years.
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U CANNOT change the constitution . Period. No mater what
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habeas corpus fuckwad. Your constitution is more and more just a shredded piece of paper, but you keep on worrying about yer guns.
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You fucking Canadians need to worry about your own backyard first, dont worry about the US and its gun laws.
This is from a Canadian :
over 1.5 million children living in extreme poverty, physically disabled people, people with cancer who cant work, families, children are living on the streets,

Social assistance rates were axed in 1998 and have not increased since then. The average disability pension is $700 a month

The health care system is tanked, huge cutbacks to funding for BC medical because of a little thing called the 2010 olympics,

Corrupt Governments, lying politicians and govt offiicials, no job creation other than in minimum wage sectors that provide no benefits,Canada bas become the missippi of the north.

Most people cannot even afford to pay rent never mind own their owh home, rising food prices, gasoline prices, , natural gas prices to heat homes is out of control, inflation is killing the working class,

Most families cannot afford to pay for post secondary education and the BC liberals have cut and eliminated funding for education and education grants,

The Harper Govt has eliminated funding for ALL women's programs, women's health, womens shelters, rape counelling etc and legal aid for women facing a divorce, no reprensentation in the courts for women unless they are very wealthy, Women are no longer allowed to lobby for, or strike for equal pay with men, it was passed through the legislature several months ago, any union supporting its female members will be fined by the Cdn Govt.

Its legal to smoke crack on the street but not to light up a cigarette - rising crime, rising domestic violence and abuse --

Schools are being closed, funding is being cut ofr education and waiting lists for surgerical procedures in some areas are as much as 5 years long, the govt will no longer pay for any joint replacement for people under the age of 65, several provinces have taken prenatal care off the list of services they pay for as well as diabetic care, ER's are being closed across the country, the BC paramedics are the lowest paid in Canada, in all of NA, as so are the teachers - a person working in a sawmill makes more then a teacher or paramedic does --

union trashing across the country, contracts being broken, salaries being rolled back, unemployment rising, you name it, just add pollution, no funding for the pine beetle recovery in BC, funds being diverted into indian projjects, and the fact they Canada has an apartheird Government, and you got a good snap shot of Canada --

even China has better social programs, senior and disability pensions, health care and education than Canada has.

The Harper Govt has destroyed Canada and continues to hack away at the foundations of Canada life and sell the country lock, stock, and barrel, including control of Canadian airspace and travel to the Americans, natural resources being sold in BC, anyone can build a damn anywhere they want to now -- no forestry or wildlife management, Basically Canada has been sold to the USA, most Cdns just dont realize it yet -- just as Cdn women dont realize ALL their rights have been secrety legislated out of existence --
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People with guns
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
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Please provide the statistics that you speak of.
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Please provide the statistics that you speak of.
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I don't need numbers to know that people use guns to murder people more than any other instrument.

Saving lives is more important than saving guns. Support life, not guns.
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I wouldn't mind hearing from anybody who thinks a gun ban would be a good thing, but without being nasty about it. I truely want to understand the mindset.
 Quoting: novamom


I think a total gun ban would be a good thing.

I'm a news reporter and I found out that 99% of all mass shootings happen in gun free zone. So, if we make Amerika a gun free zone, there will be more incidents for me to cover! Yeah, man! I see a never ending strings of victims and witnesses to interview. Bring on the ban!
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What the hell is a gun free zone? Was Denver a gun free zone?

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