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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19779165 United States 11/02/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked. Quoting: FunCoTech It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it. How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless? DOOOOOm on, for real, ya'll |
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Downtown User ID: 735820 United States 11/02/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good. |
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HolyCow User ID: 26887579 United States 11/02/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Con Ed transformer explosion video (20 secs. in) [link to boingboing.net] Last Edited by Prof. Einstein on 11/02/2012 11:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26198922 United States 11/02/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked. Quoting: FunCoTech It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it. How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless? The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced. Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China. Better yet, fuck 'em, and let Manhattan return to its original sale price of $24. |
HolyCow User ID: 26887579 United States 11/02/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked. Quoting: FunCoTech It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it. How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless? The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced. Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China. that's right. they just diverted the power from Rockaway and Long Beach and used that to power the financial district. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1172787 United States 11/02/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good. Quoting: Downtown ^^^^ What he said. No problem. A temp x-frmr will be rolled in and heated up in no time. |
FunCoTech (OP) User ID: 26885571 Australia 11/02/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets build a wireless Tesla Tower for restoring power in the proper location. Its time for the suppresed technology to be brought to light(no pun intended). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 354928 I totally agree - I'm actually thinking "we" could take over that "useless" real estate and build a "new" new York. "we" being the old and new "counter cultural" people that Really want to build a society that works... |
FunCoTech (OP) User ID: 26885571 Australia 11/02/2012 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but I don't believe it's going to be possible to replace that transformer in less than a year. How many acres of parking lot full of mobile transformers would it take to substitute for something that filled a city block? And how they gunna wire it? Bullshit I say. The big venues will be powered up but ordinary apartments will be unliveable by normal standards for the foreseeable future. What you gunna do if you have a morgage on one? Or a lease? |
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SkepticalWordSmith User ID: 24552012 United States 11/03/2012 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good. Quoting: Downtown Oh please, like facts mean anything to most of the people on GLP. Shillin' like a Villain. |
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TrinityMountain User ID: 17654518 Canada 11/03/2012 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Many many companies build different transformers every fucking day. No transformers take years to make. OP is a fear monger. Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf Actually most of the Transformers are made in Pakistan if you want to know. Yes they can take alonggggg time too build. Canada does buld some but most are from Pakistan. They have the super dupper techno for it. Friendship isn't about whom you have known the longest...Its about who walked into your life and said...I am here for you. |
SHR Forum Administrator 11/03/2012 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good. Quoting: Downtown Sounds like a load of electroshilltech crapola right there. I believe this was the transformer "Optimus Prime"...irreplaceable, even if we did have a direct connection with Cybertron, which we don't. They could try and get an Ultra Magnus to take it's place, but it'll never really work. I don't think you know much about Transformers at all. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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waterlily User ID: 19961452 United States 11/03/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good. Quoting: Downtown Ah, a voice of sanity before the whole thread gets swept away in needless DOOM! There's enough to worry about that's real in NYC. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1681297 Australia 11/03/2012 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. Many many companies build different transformers every fucking day. No transformers take years to make. OP is a fear monger. Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf Actually most of the Transformers are made in Pakistan if you want to know. Yes they can take alonggggg time too build. Canada does buld some but most are from Pakistan. They have the super dupper techno for it. Wow, just think about that for a moment. Most of the transformers which power America are built in Pakistan... if that is true that throws a whole new twist for the 'lights-out' doomers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12147011 United States 11/03/2012 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lower Manhattan On Target For Power Restoration Today, Gov. Cuomo Says [link to www.nydailynews.com] |
HolyCow User ID: 26887579 United States 11/03/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked. Quoting: FunCoTech It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it. How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless? The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced. Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China. that's right. they just diverted the power from Rockaway and Long Beach and used that to power the financial district. |
ceawaves User ID: 25797672 United States 11/03/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked. Quoting: FunCoTech It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it. How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless? Years??? What kind of country has this place become?? Where's the back up plans? |