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FunCoTech
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That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
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Marvelous.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Pretty fucking sad. We can put a man on the moon but not re-power Manhattan.....wait...did we?
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Use that big hole in the groung where the World Trade Center stood, and build a substation....duh.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
 Quoting: FunCoTech


DOOOOOm on, for real, ya'll
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Spot on OP, that video of the explosion was shown for a purpose.
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Worthless without power.

But how true is it?

Source?
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good.
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Lets build a wireless Tesla Tower for restoring power in the proper location. Its time for the suppresed technology to be brought to light(no pun intended).
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Con Ed transformer explosion video (20 secs. in)

[link to boingboing.net]

Last Edited by Prof. Einstein on 11/02/2012 11:17 PM
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
 Quoting: FunCoTech


The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced.

Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China.

Better yet, fuck 'em, and let Manhattan return to its original sale price of $24.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
 Quoting: FunCoTech


The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced.

Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26198922


that's right. they just diverted the power from Rockaway
and Long Beach and used that to power the financial district.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good.
 Quoting: Downtown


^^^^ What he said.

No problem. A temp x-frmr will be rolled in and heated up in no time.
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Lets build a wireless Tesla Tower for restoring power in the proper location. Its time for the suppresed technology to be brought to light(no pun intended).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 354928


I totally agree - I'm actually thinking "we" could take over that "useless" real estate and build a "new" new York.

"we" being the old and new "counter cultural" people that Really want to build a society that works...
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Sorry but I don't believe it's going to be possible to replace that transformer in less than a year. How many acres of parking lot full of mobile transformers would it take to substitute for something that filled a city block?

And how they gunna wire it?

Bullshit I say.

The big venues will be powered up but ordinary apartments will be unliveable by normal standards for the foreseeable future.

What you gunna do if you have a morgage on one?

Or a lease?
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Transformer is made in Canada and Con-ed ordered replacements before the storm was even over.
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Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good.
 Quoting: Downtown


Oh please, like facts mean anything to most of the people on GLP.
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Bullshit. Many many companies build different transformers every fucking day. No transformers take years to make. OP is a fear monger.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Transformer is made in Canada and Con-ed ordered replacements before the storm was even over.
 Quoting: MaryAlananB


We took your FRN's & We are Stiffing You for that Transformer.

FRN's are worthless

Do we look stupid?

Enjoy the Desert of Manhattan.

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Bullshit. Many many companies build different transformers every fucking day. No transformers take years to make. OP is a fear monger.
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Actually most of the Transformers are made in Pakistan if you want to know. Yes they can take alonggggg time too build. Canada does buld some but most are from Pakistan. They have the super dupper techno for it.
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good.
 Quoting: Downtown


Sounds like a load of electroshilltech crapola right there.
I believe this was the transformer "Optimus Prime"...irreplaceable, even if we did have a direct connection with Cybertron, which we don't. They could try and get an Ultra Magnus to take it's place, but it'll never really work. I don't think you know much about Transformers at all.
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I hate it when an OP makes an assumption and then someone that is actually an expert on the subject takes away the OPies fantasy. It happens so many times on this forum.
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Sounds like its time for ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK!
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It ain't natural living 1/2 million people per square mile.
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Transformer is made in Canada and Con-ed ordered replacements before the storm was even over.
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good chance to upgrade to ones capable of withstanding hightened load and solar activity.
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Im a Relay and Automatic Control Tech for a utility company on the east coast. We do the work in the substations installing and maintaining the feeder protection and the SCADA communications within. Why do you say that? That one Xformer doesn't supply all of Manhattan. Thats ridiculous. Even if it was a single phase of a 500kv circuit, other Xformers can be tied and switched to handle the load. There are also what is called "mobile" transformers and switchgear that can be brought in via tractor trailer and hooked up as a temp. If it was a big ass 500kv to 230kv single phase, that could take a year to replace but they can still switch out the load elsewhere and temp it. Its all good.
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Ah, a voice of sanity before the whole thread gets swept away in needless DOOM!

There's enough to worry about that's real in NYC.

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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
Bullshit. Many many companies build different transformers every fucking day. No transformers take years to make. OP is a fear monger.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


Actually most of the Transformers are made in Pakistan if you want to know. Yes they can take alonggggg time too build. Canada does buld some but most are from Pakistan. They have the super dupper techno for it.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


Wow, just think about that for a moment. Most of the transformers which power America are built in Pakistan... if that is true that throws a whole new twist for the 'lights-out' doomers.
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Lower Manhattan On Target For Power Restoration Today, Gov. Cuomo Says

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
 Quoting: FunCoTech


The beauty of transformers is that, in cases such as this, several smaller transformers may be used in its place until it can be properly replaced.

Or, the system can just be reworked permanently around the substitutes, and then there'd be no need to get yet one more thing manufactured in China.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26198922


that's right. they just diverted the power from Rockaway
and Long Beach and used that to power the financial district.
 Quoting: HolyCow


bump
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Re: Down Town Manhattan Dead - years to replace Con Ed transformer - if ever...
That huge fireworks display was the Huge transformer that used to provide power to lower Manhattern - it's Fuked.
It will take years to make another one (in China!) ant then install it.

How many billions even trillions worth of real estate just became worthless?
 Quoting: FunCoTech


Years??? What kind of country has this place become??
Where's the back up plans?





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