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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23941261  Ireland11/20/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624  Mexico11/20/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thousands are fleeing north Gaza...seems to me quite the opposite. Well, keep hope at peace in a world driven by war... either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began. [link to www.ynetnews.com] The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade. Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST? So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control. so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever.  Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely.. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 475310  United Kingdom11/20/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
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| Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States11/20/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cease fire is in 3 hours time. Both parties getting in their last hits before time is up. Hamas wins by having the bloackade lifted and the end to targetting their polititans. Israel has lost this one Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032084 Wrong. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
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| Limpan User ID: 1474973  Sweden11/20/2012 11:33 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The #Gaza truce will be declared at 1900 GMT and go into effect at 2200 GMT, says #Hamas' Ayman Taha. #DNE, #Israel, #Egypt. Quoting: DoorBert [link to twitter.com] 37 minutes...waiting This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again. |
| recollector User ID: 26964049 United Kingdom11/20/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: recollector Thousands are fleeing north Gaza...seems to me quite the opposite. Well, keep hope at peace in a world driven by war... either IDF will counter the rocket attacks from earlier before a ceasefire is declared or there will be no ceasefire. all reports of ceasefire are from arab sources. even the western/israeli news sources reporting from egyptian/palestinian sources. hamas is at their high point. there are reports the truce includes an end to targeted killings of hamas leaders, which is how this operation began. [link to www.ynetnews.com] The only cease fire agreement INCLUDES Hamas disarmament AND Israel's TOTAL (not in phases) lifting Gaza blockade. Does ANY of the two above can be achieved? YEP...but WHICH ONE FIRST? So you see...Hamas CANNOT disarm first (and tbh, who will disarm them - UN or Israel?) because they are afraid to do that.Blockade cannot be lifted first, because Hamas will get MORE rockets and arms thru egyptian Sinai...Egypt is under MB control. so...NO CEASE FIRE whatsoever. Non starter. The blockade already has too many leaks, Israel would need to control the Gaza/Sinai crossings. So why would Hamas give up something they already have? And esp their arms? Not likely.. And this is WHY there can't be a cease fire...Israel must secure 10-15 miles in Sinai adiacent to the Strip. Egyptians also KNOW that... |
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| CowgirlK User ID: 28104451 United States11/20/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meshaal, the Hamas leader, said on Monday his group was committed to efforts to secure a truce, but insisted that Israel must lift its six-year blockade of the Gaza Strip. "We are not against a calming, but we want our demands ... to end the thuggery, to end the aggression and to lift the blockade," he said, adding that Hamas would reject any Israeli preconditions for a ceasefire because "they started the aggression". [link to www.aljazeera.com] Peace over...Doom on! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28141055 Australia11/20/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The #Gaza truce will be declared at 1900 GMT and go into effect at 2200 GMT, says #Hamas' Ayman Taha. #DNE, #Israel, #Egypt. Quoting: DoorBert [link to twitter.com] 37 minutes...waiting This will not end just like that. There will be rockets , negotiations, rockets, and then calm for a couple of weeks, the SHTF again. when the Israeli elections are over, TSHTF |
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