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Whole lee shit User ID: 19114842 United States 11/14/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dislike most democrats but sometimes stimulus is needed. Look at it as an investment back into the country. Will it work this time around?? Who knows but we should at least be open to it as long as it makes cents. "You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures. They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL! What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101. As long as our money is debt-based, deficit spending (borrowing) is the only way to put new money in circulation. Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 11/14/2012 10:02 PM Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1440618 Canada 11/14/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures. They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL! What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101. Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures. They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL! What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101. Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Whole lee shit User ID: 19114842 United States 11/14/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They've won the election, now they need to payoff their friends. It's what they always do, where do you think the deficit comes from? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24942085 Creating money out of thin air, borrowed from the illegal unfederal reserve! Weeeee Stimulus doesn't always mean getting a check sent straight to you. It can mean job creation created by state projects. Look at it like the game monopoly. We all have fake money but we still want to have the most of it. Its all we got. "You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1440618 Canada 11/14/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thehill.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures. They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL! What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101. Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27627903 United States 11/14/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're a government employee, then I can least understand the crap you're pushing or buy into. The idea that big government expenditures will somehow be a magic pill for an ailing economy has been proven to be BS in -- beyond the US and Obamarama's big circus budgeting since 2008 -- countries as disparate as Japan on one hand (which has been in either a full fledged or mild recession since the 1990s) and Greece on the other. |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Instant Karma What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101. Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
mikebo2 User ID: 18012248 United States 11/14/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. OMG, Did you even graduate from high school? You actually think that circulation of money between the banks and the government causes the economy to grow? It requires businesses to borrow money and then invest it in NEW employees. The key word is Businesses. Businesses will only invest (BORROW) if they think the current environment will allow it to be successful. The government can throw as much money as it wants around but that will only stimulate temporary jobs at best. The actual business people are waiting for a sign that PEOPLE are willing to spend their money. Not whether the government has created shovel ready jobs. |
Saddletramp User ID: 812002 Puerto Rico 11/14/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta pay back their corporate masters for letting them stay in power... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1440618 Canada 11/14/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING. |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Instant Karma What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. OMG, Did you even graduate from high school? You actually think that circulation of money between the banks and the government causes the economy to grow? It requires businesses to borrow money and then invest it in NEW employees. The key word is Businesses. Businesses will only invest (BORROW) if they think the current environment will allow it to be successful. The government can throw as much money as it wants around but that will only stimulate temporary jobs at best. The actual business people are waiting for a sign that PEOPLE are willing to spend their money. Not whether the government has created shovel ready jobs. The banks weren't lending in 2008. That's why we were losing 700K jobs a month by Q4. The private banks control the economy more than the government. If you want to understand how the economy really works go to the link in my signature. Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Instant Karma What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING. Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit. The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest. Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Eagle # 1 User ID: 16389604 United States 11/14/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Throwing MONEY/DEFICT SPENDING at any problem ONLY exacerbates the problem ! They money IS OWED to the Federal Reserve Banksters, PLUS INTEREST/USURY ! About as bright a 'bleeding' a person in the 17-1800s. If at first it doesn't work, bleed so MORE ! Moronic to say the least, BUT, someone benefits, and at someone ELSES expense, who can't complain ( FUTURE taxpayers, yet UNBORN ! ). Eagle |
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mikebo2 User ID: 18012248 United States 11/14/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING. Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit. The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest. Wow... I mean wow !!!! BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY. Debt Free Currency ????? Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank. My God you are talking about Communism. With Communism there is no need for banks. The government decides who gets what and how much. Your statements are beyond belief. |
mrclean User ID: 18330853 Switzerland 11/14/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reducing (republikan) debt isn't the priority and shouldn't be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16938948 Stimulating the economy and regaining jobs is the priority. Go dems! The stupidity....must not blow up....the stupidity too unreal....must keep cool.....the stupidity....too insane...must not blow lid.... Yes folks, this is actually how an O'bot thinks. They think that by having Santa Bernanke create money out of thin air and throw it at failing institutions it's going to fix everything... The stupidity....words cannot describe. I feel sorry for you people actually. When the house of cards comes crashing down you will be left with nothing. Just as your messiah has planned all along. mrclean |
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mrclean User ID: 18330853 Switzerland 11/14/2012 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Instant Karma All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING. Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit. The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest. Wow... I mean wow !!!! BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY. Debt Free Currency ????? Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank. My God you are talking about Communism. With Communism there is no need for banks. The government decides who gets what and how much. Your statements are beyond belief. Banks don't PRINT the money? Then tell me what all those money plates and printing presses are doing at the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS owned by the following PRIVATE BANKS: Rothschild Bank of London Warburg Bank of Hamburg Rothschild Bank of Berlin Lehman Brothers of New York Lazard Brothers of Paris Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Goldman, Sachs of New York Warburg Bank of Amsterdam Chase Manhattan Bank of New York A.K.A. The 'Fed' The 'Fed' prints money and charges the U.S. treasury INTEREST on the money they print. It's not 'free'. The IRS collects the INTEREST on the LOAN. Nothing you pay in taxes EVER goes to the Federal Government. You are either a paid shill or totally ignorant to the facts...either way.. Last Edited by mrclean on 11/14/2012 11:02 PM mrclean |
Instant Karma User ID: 25981580 United States 11/14/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Instant Karma All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt. NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING. Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit. The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest. Wow... I mean wow !!!! BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY. Debt Free Currency ????? Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank. My God you are talking about Communism. With Communism there is no need for banks. The government decides who gets what and how much. Your statements are beyond belief. You are woefully ignorant of how our monetary system actually works. The Federal Reserve System creates all of the money in circulation (coins excluded), not the government. If you don't understand what that means, please educate yourself. BTW, most of the money in circulation is not PRINTED money, but checkbook money, just numbers in a computer. Every loan made by a private bank creates new money out of nothing. That is a fact. [link to www.webofdebt.com] Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 11/14/2012 11:09 PM Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21147804 United States 11/14/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618 Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101. What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs. Except your point has no connections to what I said. Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks. All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts. banks are lending dude. The zero interest policy from the fed is going through at least 2016. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16389604 United States 11/14/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mikebo2 ..... OBVIOUSLY NEVER heard of Lincoln, and greenback dollars OR, Andrew Jackson's fight to keep PRIVATE BANKS from issuing worthless paper and gaining USURY/interest from it. Gold/silver was and WILL be the one 'currency' the parasitic politicians and banksters CAN'T inflate BECAUSE there is a limited supply kind of like your knowledge/brain power ! |