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Is the drinking of milk more cruel than eating a fellow creature? | |
| morphic oceans User ID: 25960283  United Kingdom11/19/2012 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27912202  United States11/19/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to dairycowdiary.wordpress.com] Quoting: morphic oceans 25960283 An animal is slaughtered within minutes whereas a cow and the calf mourn each others 'death' for a lot longer so us humans can enjoy the milk that nature intended for the cows young. This is not a preach thing. Just something to make you think. Okay we have the middle east crisis going on so by comparison this may seem small. But to relay our empathy onto other creatures (we do with cats and dogs) but to others? We may not be able to halt the Israel Palastine conflict, but we can open our minds to a reality we can change for the better. It's like moving to a new house. Everything seems daunting at first but each small step at a time gets us to our goal. I know the omnivores will get their fangs into this one but maybes they are right! Maybes I am wrong about being vegan for 2 1/2 decades. Maybes life is a hiccough in a peace/piece of the universe that could have been without injured mind. Be the change you wanna see in the world. There are so many negativities, Who really knows? Certainly not me. All creatures have minds and they don't want to die; it is just us to decide which creatures to mind, whether it be selfish or selfless. Life is a lottery where you could have been born a pig at the mercy of humans. God bless whatever your persuasion. Take care, you never know what is around the corner. Thanks, I'll give this to my acquaintance who is sure he can't ascend eating any meats or fish and his ancient Vedic literature forbids the eating of anything from a seed or grain as it supposedly makes you extremely lustful. He was up in arms over a suggestion would he like a peanut butter sandwich. I told him his lust issues likely were more related to porn consumption than foods and I felt one's actions or nonactions regarding dealings with one another counted much more on any ascension.He decided to just eat all dairy and be a breatharian. Now I can remind him boob juice besides likely being from a very lustful object using it is contributing to the demise of the young calf. Wouldn't consuming mourning milk lower one's vibrations (supposedly)?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190246 United States11/19/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont drink milk. it has never appealed to me. i recently started drinking almond "milk" and find it quite tasty. i dont know if it's a decent alternative for an avid milk drinker, but i would recommend looking into it. could help decrease demand. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25960283 United Kingdom11/20/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Cruel" is just a word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Eating animals, plants, or their products is neither "good" nor "bad" nor "cruel". It simply is. I believe 'cruelty' is not recognised by nature in its overall essence but I think 'cruelty' is perceived and recognised in non human and obviously humans themselves. 'Cruelty' as defined as physical or emotional suffering. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25960283 United Kingdom11/20/2012 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont drink milk. it has never appealed to me. i recently started drinking almond "milk" and find it quite tasty. i dont know if it's a decent alternative for an avid milk drinker, but i would recommend looking into it. could help decrease demand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190246 Thanks for the reply. Rice milk I find quite nice. To find peace between human and human surely the first step is peace between human and animal? |
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| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States11/20/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God gave us many wonderful resources to use for our benefit...it would be insulting not to use them. Quoting: BRIEF 'Our benefit' is what is wrong with the human having dominion over fellow creatures. God gave us compassion and altruism. We developed animal husbandry and all manner of techniques to maintain a balance with nature...it's a shame the Negro is killing coal, because that resource too is a gift from God. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25960283 United Kingdom11/20/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God gave us many wonderful resources to use for our benefit...it would be insulting not to use them. Quoting: BRIEF 'Our benefit' is what is wrong with the human having dominion over fellow creatures. God gave us compassion and altruism. We developed animal husbandry and all manner of techniques to maintain a balance with nature...it's a shame the Negro is killing coal, because that resource too is a gift from God. From calves to coal. Man that's what I call a kangaroo mind. |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States11/20/2012 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God gave us many wonderful resources to use for our benefit...it would be insulting not to use them. Quoting: BRIEF 'Our benefit' is what is wrong with the human having dominion over fellow creatures. God gave us compassion and altruism. We developed animal husbandry and all manner of techniques to maintain a balance with nature...it's a shame the Negro is killing coal, because that resource too is a gift from God. From calves to coal. Man that's what I call a kangaroo mind. As I said, all resources are a gift for our use...nature is not to be worshiped, it's to be used... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549920 United States11/20/2012 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States11/20/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | humans are the only species that drink milk after infancy, and it's not even milk from our own species obviously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549920 That's because we are more intelligent than any other species...on Earth I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25960283 United Kingdom11/20/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25960283 'Our benefit' is what is wrong with the human having dominion over fellow creatures. God gave us compassion and altruism. We developed animal husbandry and all manner of techniques to maintain a balance with nature...it's a shame the Negro is killing coal, because that resource too is a gift from God. From calves to coal. Man that's what I call a kangaroo mind. As I said, all resources are a gift for our use...nature is not to be worshiped, it's to be used... That is your interpretation of reality. I respect it but do not agree. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is obviously the least where do you stand on. i} spirituality ii materialism |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28131541  Germany11/20/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | humans are the only species that drink milk after infancy, and it's not even milk from our own species obviously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549920 That's because we are more intelligent than any other species...on Earth According to limited human criteria only. Is parasitism a sign of intelligence? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28092364 United States11/20/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now drinking milk is cruel? Are there any more restrictions you'd like to place on life? I think it might still be somewhat livable. How about "toasting is cruel to the bread so we shouldn't do that." Or "don't slice a tomato, you are slicing a living thing!" What about all the organisms you can't see but step on every time you walk? Driving is now forbidden, because of the bugs that will splat your windshield. It's not their fault, they were just occupying nature. YOU were the one who had the choice of buying the car and driving down that road. And don't even get me started on the evils of that car's existence in the first place! Seriously, when will it be okay for me to step outside my house and actually live, without someone wanting to impose guilt for the most basic of activities? |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States11/20/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF We developed animal husbandry and all manner of techniques to maintain a balance with nature...it's a shame the Negro is killing coal, because that resource too is a gift from God. From calves to coal. Man that's what I call a kangaroo mind. As I said, all resources are a gift for our use...nature is not to be worshiped, it's to be used... That is your interpretation of reality. I respect it but do not agree. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is obviously the least where do you stand on. i} spirituality ii materialism LOL, that's a loaded question...I'm not materialistic, and animals and nature don't have souls, only humans have souls because we are intelligent enough to make moral decisions and not just act on instinct. Life would not exist without the resources God gave us...food, clothing, building materials, etc all make it possible to survive comfortably on this planet... Cows milk is nearly a perfect food. It has 1 gram of protein per ounce and necessary fat...yes our bodies need fat. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28131541 Germany11/20/2012 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to dairycowdiary.wordpress.com] Quoting: morphic oceans 25960283 An animal is slaughtered within minutes whereas a cow and the calf mourn each others 'death' for a lot longer so us humans can enjoy the milk that nature intended for the cows young. This is not a preach thing. Just something to make you think. Okay we have the middle east crisis going on so by comparison this may seem small. But to relay our empathy onto other creatures (we do with cats and dogs) but to others? We may not be able to halt the Israel Palastine conflict, but we can open our minds to a reality we can change for the better. It's like moving to a new house. Everything seems daunting at first but each small step at a time gets us to our goal. I know the omnivores will get their fangs into this one but maybes they are right! Maybes I am wrong about being vegan for 2 1/2 decades. Maybes life is a hiccough in a peace/piece of the universe that could have been without injured mind. Be the change you wanna see in the world. There are so many negativities, Who really knows? Certainly not me. All creatures have minds and they don't want to die; it is just us to decide which creatures to mind, whether it be selfish or selfless. Life is a lottery where you could have been born a pig at the mercy of humans. God bless whatever your persuasion. Take care, you never know what is around the corner. You are right.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28131541 Germany11/20/2012 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all that is going on in the world...THIS is what you choose to spend your precious remaining hours obsessing over? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814  THIS is a very important issue, maybe the most important of all and the reason for all the misery and wars. Institutionalized and legal cruelty to helpless animals on a large scale. Says a lot about us and the societies we live in. Talking about billions. Billions of animals killed every single day. For human pleasure. Lots of negative energy. Think about it. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States11/20/2012 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all that is going on in the world...THIS is what you choose to spend your precious remaining hours obsessing over? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 THIS is a very important issue, maybe the most important of all and the reason for all the misery and wars. Institutionalized and legal cruelty to helpless animals on a large scale. Says a lot about us and the societies we live in. Talking about billions. Billions of animals killed every single day. For human pleasure. Lots of negative energy. Think about it. Because there's NO misery in India, right? FFS get a fucking life. |
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| back as morphic oceans (OP) User ID: 25960283 United Kingdom11/20/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now drinking milk is cruel? Are there any more restrictions you'd like to place on life? I think it might still be somewhat livable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28092364 How about "toasting is cruel to the bread so we shouldn't do that." Or "don't slice a tomato, you are slicing a living thing!" What about all the organisms you can't see but step on every time you walk? Driving is now forbidden, because of the bugs that will splat your windshield. It's not their fault, they were just occupying nature. YOU were the one who had the choice of buying the car and driving down that road. And don't even get me started on the evils of that car's existence in the first place! Seriously, when will it be okay for me to step outside my house and actually live, without someone wanting to impose guilt for the most basic of activities? I certainly do not impose any of my beliefs on anybody. I appreciate where you are coming from. I'm a car driver and I am guilty. Yes I splatter insects on my windscreen If I see a fly on the windscreen I will stop and let it off. I once found a moth stuck to my bonnet still alive. I'm not here on a high horse. When I go for a walk I am looking at the ground incase I step on an insect. If I see a worm on the path I will place the worm on the soil. If I kill myself I will cause bacteria to die. Like I said I'm not preaching, he who is without sin etc. I just feel the post I made was recognising the strong maternal bond between mother and offspring. I hate the liberal lefties that have reduced our freedom of speech incase it offends somebody. I know where you are coming from, it was not my intention to add burden. Comedy has been massacred because of this 'offend' rule. Go on try some rice milk. You might like it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States11/20/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now drinking milk is cruel? Are there any more restrictions you'd like to place on life? I think it might still be somewhat livable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28092364 How about "toasting is cruel to the bread so we shouldn't do that." Or "don't slice a tomato, you are slicing a living thing!" What about all the organisms you can't see but step on every time you walk? Driving is now forbidden, because of the bugs that will splat your windshield. It's not their fault, they were just occupying nature. YOU were the one who had the choice of buying the car and driving down that road. And don't even get me started on the evils of that car's existence in the first place! Seriously, when will it be okay for me to step outside my house and actually live, without someone wanting to impose guilt for the most basic of activities? I certainly do not impose any of my beliefs on anybody. I appreciate where you are coming from. I'm a car driver and I am guilty. Yes I splatter insects on my windscreen If I see a fly on the windscreen I will stop and let it off. I once found a moth stuck to my bonnet still alive. I'm not here on a high horse. When I go for a walk I am looking at the ground incase I step on an insect. If I see a worm on the path I will place the worm on the soil. If I kill myself I will cause bacteria to die. I suppose you don't bathe regularly either then. Or clean your house. Or your clothes. You seriously need to get some help. |
