Women who went through C-sections...

No, not really. Have given birth both ways and it's pretty much the same, at least for me.

I figure that will be the majority response, that no bond has been severed. A good motherly bond is strong, despite maybe some misteps in the birthing process.

Well, if I didn't have the C-section may child might have died. I had an epideral. I was awake during the process and saw him before they wisked him away. He was a 10 by the way! Beautiful head! I didn't feel the first labor pain! Don't feel like I missed a thing!

wow.. Big boy! Yea, c-section saved my life too.

I dunno about any of this shit...


But I kinda feel like as long as the human animal is running around dressing itself, it might as well be smart enough to perform C-sections too.

no, not really...had to have one. My little fellow was stuck & not budging after 12 hours. they had broken my water and given labor inducing drugs and nothing. apparently my hips / pelvic bone are not the good "child birthing" kind.

Last Edited by woowoochic on 11/20/2012 02:58 AM

I've done both. There was no difference for me, was just relieved to get the baby out of distress in time.

But....there is a possibility that some of us might produce a smaller rush of those "bonding hormones" in the absence of completing the birth vaginally.

Or, some people might just feel a little "less than" inside for having to go c-section, and the "post-partum blues" could affect the bonding.

The only thing that bothered me was not producing enough milk for my firstborn. Felt like a HUGE failure having to give formula.

I've done both, had a natural child birth after 32 hours of hard labour with no pain killers of any kind.. my doctor said, and I quote "you got pregnant the old fashioned way, we deliver babies the old fashioned way."
My second was a C Section... the only difference in "feelings" about that was, I didn't feel as though I brought him into the world. But I also have to say... it was soooo much easier than 32 hours of hard labour.
There is absolutely no difference in bonding with either,of the kids.

I don't think its anything to do with the birth. I had natural births for all three of my children. My first child I didn't bond with at all. I had no maternal instincts. I was protective of her but I had minimal feelings for her. I went on to suffer postnatal depression which lasted for about a year. My other two children were different. However, the births were very similar.

I think the woman claiming that at the end of the movie has issues. I had both of my children by c-section. First one was due to a truly horrific labor (hooray for the days when doctors in HMO's delayed c-sections as long as possible just so they could keep their bonuses! first labor was THE worst labor and delivery on record for the hospital according to hospital staff). Second one was planned because the doctor felt my previous attempt at vaginal delivery was enough for a lifetime and didn't want any repeats, lol. I don't feel like I missed out on anything other than not having a sore crotch. Instead, I feel gratitude for my two beautiful children. I feel gratitude that my son and I survived when we shouldn't have by all accounts. Not a day goes by when I don't reflect on the fact that, if we had lived 100 years ago, we would've been dead and my second child wouldn't exist.

Like I said, the woman in the movie--she has issues. It's not the c-section. It's her. Two words describe her oh so adequately--"dumb bitch". I pity her child.

P.S. Want to add: What makes her a dumb bitch in my mind is that she obviously had no consideration of the future or long term potential consequences of her statement about her child's delivery. It's a documentary. It'll be around for a while. Will her child view it? How will it make that child feel? Etc etc. That's what makes her a dumb bitch. It's one thing to feel that something is different or "missing". It's a whole other ballgame when you utter such a thing in such a permanent, public, and identifiable fashion.

If only everyone were like you :-( glad they are not. Many women say what she said. For some, c-section was a regretful choice because they chose the c section for vain reasons.

if it was up to me, all women would have babies by c-sections as a part of induced labour, after she enters the time in which it's safe to do this, and a tummy tuck immediately after the baby is born, while she is still in surgery.

plenty of rich women do it this way, so it's safe only requires skilled doctors.

there is nothing natural in the way women have babies, especially nothing grand, natural, or beautiful in the pain, the mutulation of my body, or anything that happens during the giving birth through your vagina, i might as well have a c-section....

unless someone really wants to claim that hours of excrusiatiing pain in which parts of me, i grew to like since i use them to make love to the other half of my everything, open up like a gauge, and then my son or daughter ripps my periannum,until i almost faint, and it's sawed back together and my sagging stomach and vagina stay an open wound for at least a month, and i am at bed rest for fear of ripping open again, and my genitals never ever get back into same shape i was in prior to having my kids.
but half of my everything still has the same penis, only he is 33 and i am 40, with a wracked vagina from our teo kids, and with tight pussy attached to beautiful ladies of 25 walking around saying to my husband, 'heyyy, sup, can wanna see my lovely little pussy?'

even christians understand that the way we have kids was part of a cruel punishment of eve, and not only eve, but the fact it applies to all women was designed to make eve feel guilty of the horrendous pain and terror all women go through so they could have a family....

so anyone claiming anything natural about the way we have kids, or finding beauty in it is in denial.

kids are the best part of humanity withiut a doubt, but the way we have kids is ignorant, coz unusually criel punishment and torture of women is considered natural and even beautiful....

i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....

i had both.
my 1st was a planned homebirth with a midwife and labour was only 5 hours and intense as hell.
did not have any pain killers. just pushed her out on my bed.

the 2nd i did also a planned homebirth, but after 24 hours i could not push her out so we went to the hospital (which we had already planned out in case and were only 5 minutes away from)
and they did a c section because i was too exhausted.
she was "sunny side up" and i think this is one reason i had a hard time getting her out the old fashioned way.

i do think the 2 experiences were completely different.

the 1st one, when she was born, it's like some energy is released that makes everyone cry in the room. it's way more emotional.

and the second time you just hope everything goes ok and when they lifted her out of me my husband and i did not cry in the same way, but had just great relief.

then i had a 3rd and i found out he had trisomy13 but i decided to go ahead with the pregnancy anyway (there was never a question in my mind. and the only reason i had the ets to find out is because at the 3 month mark we went in for the 1st ultrasound and it was pretty apparent something was wrong becaus he was missing half of his heart, so i did the test to see what he had so i could know what to expect and be at a hospital that is a heart specialist. my 1st daughter, lili has down syndrome but she is as healthy as a horse. never sick ever. had 2 colds and that was it. never tested for her. so she was a surprise but we were prepared in case because i had my 1st one at age 40) because he was my only son and i wanted to spend whatever time with him i could. then he died inside me at 38 weeks.

i opted for a c section on that one, because to push him out, knowing he was dead, would have been too emotionally difficult for me.

i'm really glad i got to have at least one the old fashioned way. i do feel proud about it that i was able to do that. the body is amazing. and it's marvelous feeling when you push out and then you have a new little girl laying on your stomach looking at you with the umbilical cord still attaching us. it's just WOW.

but in the end, of course i love them exactly the same :)
and now i can have empathy for women who go through really long labours, because i got an epidural to have the c section and that was glorious after 24 hours of pain.

i would not do anything differently tho, now that i know that an epi causes less pain. because an epidural , most often, leads to a c section in a domino like effect.

now my tubes are tied.
and i would like women to know that having your tubes tied really does screw with your hormones and can put you into premature menopause. and they never tell you that but it's true.
so prepare yourself for that if anyone should decide that route. this is a common thing that happens they never tell women about it.

Last Edited by pink cat on 11/20/2012 05:34 PM

Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?

Had 3 emergency C-sections. Babies simply wouldn't come out naturally - the first one was taken after 36 hours of back labor.

Much more recovery time than a normal birth.

Was it worth it? Absolutely.

I have had both. Yes, c-section I hated but I didn't have a choice.

You see my first was sick and I was induced, my second I fell victim to the DR wanting to induce labor because it was easier for them, then the third was my last chance, I wanted to know what it felt like to tell my husband, "it's time" sounds silly I know. But I wanted to do it ALL natural, not just no pain meds, I wanted to go into labor stay in labor at home until I knew I needed to go.

My son has Spina Bifida and a vaginal birth wasn't an option. I'm sure him being in the NICU for almost a month has a bit to do with my initial lack of maternal instinct, but the c-section coupled with the "will he live?" and the NICU stay really took me a long time to completely fall head over heels(if you will). Don't get me wrong, I love all 3 of my children the same, but there was definitely something missing in the first months of my youngests life and regrettably, I will never get that "something" back.

I had both my children by C section, I would have died during my first childbirth because of the breach and size of baby. I have very small hips from front to back and my doctor knew the second baby was bigger and would thus not risk a natural birth, nor would I. I have no feeling that anything is wrong with anything as a result, we were all healthy.

There are worlds where children are never delivered vaginally, did you know that, its easier on everyone, but those worlds have the technology to open and close an incision without surgical knives and stitches.

hospitals are doing more c-sections than they used to.

pun intended?

My mother was in labor for over 36 hrs with my older sister...and she was 40 at the time, with a weak heart

Nevertheless the doctors at the Catholic hospital she was at wouldn't perform a C-Section

One actually said "the bible said women shall bear their children in pain"

At that point my dad, who was not a weak man, pulled the doctor in charge aside and said something to the extent of "you want to see pain? How about counting your teeth on the ground out in the parking lot?"

Mom got her c-section, and 9 years later I was delivered the same way

My mother was extremely devoted to us and I could feel her love. I don't think the delivery affected the bond

I do wonder if a woman who goes through extreme pain, tearing and suffering in order to have a "vaginal" birth might feel some resentment towards the child

But I speak only as an observer to the entire experience

Last Edited by IssueX on 11/20/2012 09:11 PM

brings in the bucks!
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only a person who is radically immature could ever feel resentment towards her child for having to be born a certain way.

when i had my c section it was at a catholic hospital.

i asked them if they would tie my tubes but they refused.

My c-section was great, and my son and I have always had a great bond. All that talk is total bs. And also, my sex life has continued to be super-amazing as I did not have things stretched to supernatural dimensions. It's nice to have things just the way they were, no breaking, stretching, or numbing.

I have heard of so many women that just don't want or care about sex after they had kids. This eventually chips away at and ruins their relationship w/ their partner. So sad. This did not happen to me, and it's another reason I love my c-section!

Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?


well i'm sorry for your bad luck with doctors, armchair, and that you can't have more kids, if you were planning a third, but i disagree with the bolded part, and i think i made my reasons why pretty clear.

also, just a c-section isn't a solution, that, and a tummy tuck are.
also the way doctors wait for labour to start "naturally" is wrong, they should induce labor when a woman reaches 9 moths, and it's safe to have the baby.

we have come a long way in medicine, but the way we go about estetic surgery and child labour is obsolete, and plain wrong.

very few things occur naturally in this world, even if we try and deny it, and pretend some things are natural, like child birth a certain way, having a huge nose just coz god is a twat and a cruel twat...etc...

remember few centuries ago, any kind of surgery was considered blesphemy, and people would be burtn at stake for cutting out and treating someones's boils.those times were known for chucking our poo out the window too, and letting rats run around eating our food...but killing cats off coz they cause the plaque...etc....

i hope you are recovered from your terrible experience now, but your troubles have more to do with bad doctors than the way you delivered.

also i'm sorry about your belly, i hope you are better now...i wld hug you if i could, stupid irresponsible doctors, i would kill them all if i could.

The doctor wanted my wife to do it natural. She tried for awhile..... tried really hard.


Fortunately after awhile she demanded to the doctor that he do a C-section.


Turns out the cord was around the little guys neck.

The mother subconsciously resents the child for giving her a scar for the rest of her life.