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DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm, my bible says what you posted while bible gateway says another but I don't see what the problem is? Something being communicated differently? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997 The NIV basically says Jesus is not God, when the KJV clearly says that he is God. "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." (KJV) Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped." (NIV) Philippians 2:6 Thank you but the kjv could be wrong as well. As for being equal and not equal I guess I can compare translations. Perhaps the most popular data wins? No I'm telling you that Jesus = God "I and my Father are one." -John 10:30 (KJV) and the NIV in Philippians 2:6 basically says that Jesus is not equal to God. Last Edited by DesignLov3 on 11/23/2012 05:58 AM -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 The NIV basically says Jesus is not God, when the KJV clearly says that he is God. "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." (KJV) Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped." (NIV) Philippians 2:6 Thank you but the kjv could be wrong as well. As for being equal and not equal I guess I can compare translations. Perhaps the most popular data wins? No I'm telling you that Jesus = God "I and my Father are one." -John 10:30 (KJV) and the NIV in Philippians 2:6 basically says that Jesus is not equal to God. Watch out, pagan! for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...Ex 20:5 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26244997 United States 11/23/2012 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, it seems the Holy Spirit is strong in convicting you if your able to understand that we must not be the servant of sin, and must not live by the lusts of the flesh/eyes, just pray and God will guide you. The most important thing is that you call on the name of Jesus. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) Hmm, I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If jesus is the head but god is above him...how are they equal? Isn't jesus a "lesser" form of the most high? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997 No Jesus is the son of God, I.e. the immaculate conception (mary was a virgin, the father was God) which makes Jesus God in the flesh. " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) There are other scriptures that refer to Jesus as God as well. Mighty God does not mean the God Almighty, though. Being called mighty does not make anybody the Almighty. Got it? "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 -Steve |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If jesus is the head but god is above him...how are they equal? Isn't jesus a "lesser" form of the most high? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997 No Jesus is the son of God, I.e. the immaculate conception (mary was a virgin, the father was God) which makes Jesus God in the flesh. " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) There are other scriptures that refer to Jesus as God as well. Mighty God does not mean the God Almighty, though. Being called mighty does not make anybody the Almighty. Got it? "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 No Jesus is the son of God, I.e. the immaculate conception (mary was a virgin, the father was God) which makes Jesus God in the flesh. " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) There are other scriptures that refer to Jesus as God as well. Mighty God does not mean the God Almighty, though. Being called mighty does not make anybody the Almighty. Got it? "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" -Steve |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, it seems the Holy Spirit is strong in convicting you if your able to understand that we must not be the servant of sin, and must not live by the lusts of the flesh/eyes, just pray and God will guide you. The most important thing is that you call on the name of Jesus. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) Hmm, I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again. You haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your saviour? -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 Mighty God does not mean the God Almighty, though. Being called mighty does not make anybody the Almighty. Got it? "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". Further, there was no flesh "in the beginning" either. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 " But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain? -Steve |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". Further, there was no flesh "in the beginning" either. I never said there was flesh in the beginning. Perhaps as a professing Christian you should be seeking unity instead of division. How bout some love? -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure: the Son has a Beginning. The Father has no Beginning. Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain? Trinity is pagan notion of God. And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god" The emphasis is on "in the beginning". I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain? Trinity is pagan notion of God. And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry. I agree, and I don't recall ever teaching the Trinity. -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28324176 Spain 11/23/2012 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, it seems the Holy Spirit is strong in convicting you if your able to understand that we must not be the servant of sin, and must not live by the lusts of the flesh/eyes, just pray and God will guide you. The most important thing is that you call on the name of Jesus. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) Hmm, I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again. it is like what I would say about myself, word in word. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain? Trinity is pagan notion of God. And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry. I agree, and I don't recall ever teaching the Trinity. Well, if true don´t call the Son of God the God. There is only One, his Father. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26244997 United States 11/23/2012 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree, sorry though. This is somewhat difficult on a phone. I have been at this for around a year since god showed me a unique sign like ezekiel I believe. As for your knowledge I do not doubt that you have it. No offense but even the devil knows the bible. I'm just saying I cannot trust one based on that. I have met individuals who are pastors with over 20 years who understand nothing. So yea, be careful. As for the kjv..i don't know. That includes the others. I guess I can get many biblres and compare. If most translations say equal than so be it. However, don't go for a king because it is a king or because it is old and unique. I'm not sure why you have chose it. I have one as well. Just remember this. What does god say about the most popular things the world adores? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28254707 Australia 11/23/2012 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm, lets call them parables one can see with their own eyes. As for the king james versions. I don't think it really matters. If god has the power to protect me he has the power to protect the word. Just stay away from the NKJV or the NIV as they distort versus in very satanic ways, I can provide proof if you would like verification. God Bless. Edit: can't say for sure about the other versions. But you can never go wrong with 1611 KJV, the living, breathing, word of God. Agreed. I've seen quotes from NIV against KJV and it's scary. Only a word or two difference, but it changes the whole sentence completely. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, it seems the Holy Spirit is strong in convicting you if your able to understand that we must not be the servant of sin, and must not live by the lusts of the flesh/eyes, just pray and God will guide you. The most important thing is that you call on the name of Jesus. "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) Hmm, I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again. it is like what I would say about myself, word in word. If anyone who stumbles upon this thread wants to be saved say this prayer with earnest: "Dear God, in the name of Jesus Christ, I admit that I am sinner and have fallen short of the glory of God. I understand that you must judge me, and that I deserve to burn in the lake of fire for my sins. I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and he Died for my sins, and you raised him from the death to be at your right hand side. I need you in my life, please come into my heart and fill my with the holy spirit, I know that this is the only way I can be saved have a chance at eternity with the father" Then you have to take up your cross daily, and become a new creature in Christ, Repenting of your sins once you are Saved, and you have to turn from a life of sin, and from a life living after the lusts of the flesh and the eyes, and start living for God. -Steve |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain? Trinity is pagan notion of God. And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry. I agree, and I don't recall ever teaching the Trinity. Well, if true don´t call the Son of God the God. There is only One, his Father. I do not endorse the concept of the trinity, however with that being said it is quite clear from the scriptures I quoted to you above, that Jesus Christ was god in the flesh. This can be proven because as humans we are unable to be without sin, however Jesus Christ, who was also in the flesh, was able to do this (the only human to be able to do this) Also "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 -Steve |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26244997 United States 11/23/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I have but that doesn't seal me. My temple must go through the fire and recieve the spirit john talks about. I am a sinner, a son of hell, a child of the devil. Not born again or saved. I do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life. Either due to ignorance, stubborness, lack of true love, and sin dwelling inside. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 Trinity is pagan notion of God. And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry. I agree, and I don't recall ever teaching the Trinity. Well, if true don´t call the Son of God the God. There is only One, his Father. I do not endorse the concept of the trinity, however with that being said it is quite clear from the scriptures I quoted to you above, that Jesus Christ was god in the flesh. This can be proven because as humans we are unable to be without sin, however Jesus Christ, who was also in the flesh, was able to do this (the only human to be able to do this) Also "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 A living image of God is not God Himself. Get it and do not stay pagan. There is no God of Israel in flesh. ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3 ... God is Spirit John 4:24 ... No one has ever seen God … John 1:18 John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. |
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DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father? Last Edited by DesignLov3 on 11/23/2012 06:48 AM -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 Well, if true don´t call the Son of God the God. There is only One, his Father. I do not endorse the concept of the trinity, however with that being said it is quite clear from the scriptures I quoted to you above, that Jesus Christ was god in the flesh. This can be proven because as humans we are unable to be without sin, however Jesus Christ, who was also in the flesh, was able to do this (the only human to be able to do this) Also "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 A living image of God is not God Himself. Get it and do not stay pagan. There is no God of Israel in flesh. ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3 ... God is Spirit John 4:24 ... No one has ever seen God … John 1:18 John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father? Again, you confuse a mighty god, Jesus with the Almighty, the only God. His Father is the Almighty, not Jesus. |
DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/23/2012 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DesignLov3 I do not endorse the concept of the trinity, however with that being said it is quite clear from the scriptures I quoted to you above, that Jesus Christ was god in the flesh. This can be proven because as humans we are unable to be without sin, however Jesus Christ, who was also in the flesh, was able to do this (the only human to be able to do this) Also "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9 A living image of God is not God Himself. Get it and do not stay pagan. There is no God of Israel in flesh. ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3 ... God is Spirit John 4:24 ... No one has ever seen God … John 1:18 John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father? Again, you confuse a mighty god, Jesus with the Almighty, the only God. His Father is the Almighty, not Jesus. No, I'm asking you to explain that to me please. ... "Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father?" Last Edited by DesignLov3 on 11/23/2012 06:51 AM -Steve |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26244997 United States 11/23/2012 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26244997 it is like what I would say about myself, word in word. I believe in two baptisms. [link to angelic-ministry.tumblr.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13284416 United States 11/23/2012 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416 A living image of God is not God Himself. Get it and do not stay pagan. There is no God of Israel in flesh. ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3 ... God is Spirit John 4:24 ... No one has ever seen God … John 1:18 John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father? Again, you confuse a mighty god, Jesus with the Almighty, the only God. His Father is the Almighty, not Jesus. No, I'm asking you to explain that to me please. ... "Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28? and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father?" I have already. Anyway, don´t be like Thomas: 29Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20 |
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