Most who think they believe in jesus do not.

No I'm telling you that Jesus = God

"I and my Father are one." -John 10:30 (KJV)

and the NIV in Philippians 2:6 basically says that Jesus is not equal to God.

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Watch out, pagan!

for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...Ex 20:5

Hmm, I can say that I am gifted but I cannot say I have been sealed by the mark of god which I believe is the holy spirit given to those who obey. A gift is a gift. Perhaps wisdom, knowledge, and understanding but I am not saved or born again.

"I and my Father are one."
John 10:30

"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?"
John 14:9

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
John 20:28

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
1 John 5:7

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 1:1

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
John 1:14

" But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
Hebrews 1:8

I know jesus is god but the fleshly form not the form whose face brings death. The son of man versus the father. I do believe in the trinity.

John 20:28 - Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

You don´t need to quote I know the Bible for many years. And you are going against its teaching, I know for sure:

the Son has a Beginning.

The Father has no Beginning.

Jesus was the word made flesh, and s it says in john 1:1, in the beginning (before creation) was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god"

You haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your saviour?

The emphasis is on "in the beginning".

Further, there was no flesh "in the beginning" either.

I don't understand why you are trying to create an argument and accuse me of going against the Bible/the word of God, perhaps you could explain?

I never said there was flesh in the beginning. Perhaps as a professing Christian you should be seeking unity instead of division. How bout some love?

Trinity is pagan notion of God.

And God hates paganism among Israelites. Read about their history. They got finaly expelled from the Land even because of their paganism and idolatry.

I agree, and I don't recall ever teaching the Trinity.

it is like what I would say about myself, word in word.

Well, if true don´t call the Son of God

the God. There is only One, his Father.

I agree, sorry though. This is somewhat difficult on a phone. I have been at this for around a year since god showed me a unique sign like ezekiel I believe. As for your knowledge I do not doubt that you have it. No offense but even the devil knows the bible. I'm just saying I cannot trust one based on that. I have met individuals who are pastors with over 20 years who understand nothing. So yea, be careful. As for the kjv..i don't know. That includes the others. I guess I can get many biblres and compare. If most translations say equal than so be it. However, don't go for a king because it is a king or because it is old and unique. I'm not sure why you have chose it. I have one as well. Just remember this. What does god say about the most popular things the world adores?

Agreed. I've seen quotes from NIV against KJV and it's scary. Only a word or two difference, but it changes the whole sentence completely.

If anyone who stumbles upon this thread wants to be saved say this prayer with earnest:

"Dear God, in the name of Jesus Christ, I admit that I am sinner and have fallen short of the glory of God. I understand that you must judge me, and that I deserve to burn in the lake of fire for my sins. I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and he Died for my sins, and you raised him from the death to be at your right hand side. I need you in my life, please come into my heart and fill my with the holy spirit, I know that this is the only way I can be saved have a chance at eternity with the father"

Then you have to take up your cross daily, and become a new creature in Christ, Repenting of your sins once you are Saved, and you have to turn from a life of sin, and from a life living after the lusts of the flesh and the eyes, and start living for God.

I do not endorse the concept of the trinity, however with that being said it is quite clear from the scriptures I quoted to you above, that Jesus Christ was god in the flesh. This can be proven because as humans we are unable to be without sin, however Jesus Christ, who was also in the flesh, was able to do this (the only human to be able to do this)

Also


"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9

Yes I have but that doesn't seal me. My temple must go through the fire and recieve the spirit john talks about. I am a sinner, a son of hell, a child of the devil. Not born again or saved. I do not believe in the way, the truth, and the life. Either due to ignorance, stubborness, lack of true love, and sin dwelling inside.

A living image of God is not God Himself. Get it and do not stay pagan. There is no God of Israel in flesh.

... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50

6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3

... God is Spirit John 4:24 ... No one has ever seen God … John 1:18



John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

What they teach about the "trinity" I do not know. To me, it is simply one god. Father, son, holy ghost.

Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28?
and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father?

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Again, you confuse a mighty god, Jesus with the Almighty, the only God. His Father is the Almighty, not Jesus.

No, I'm asking you to explain that to me please.

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"Okay I see what your getting at, but then how come he was referred to as God in the scriptures i.e Isaiah 9:6 or john 20:28?
and in john 14:9 he says he that seen me has seen the father?"

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And if go by the scriptures, and Jesus is the word made flesh, and the word is god, then wouldn't that make Jesus God in the flesh?

I believe in two baptisms.

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I have already.

Anyway, don´t be like Thomas:

29Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20

The Word is not God. The Word WAS WITH God, in the Beginning. A big difference.