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The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.

 
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Making someone the object of a practical joke is intending harm. It is intending to shame the person. Shame in some societies is a big deal. The DJ punks deserve to be taken off the air. This kind of shit has no place in civilized society.
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I totally agree. It is another form of bullying, which needs to be stopped. Anyone who plays a prank on someone else should be held legally liable for any harmful consequences and should be allowed to be sued in court for monetary compensation for any pain and humiliation and loss of reputation of the victim that resulted from the prank.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
There's no suicide note. No one has released, not even to the family members of the deceased woman, how and in which conditions she died. There's not even any proof of suicide for that matter. And the hospital didn't threaten nor punish her in any way, so why would the woman kill herself just for making a little mistake? Because having dissapointed her colleagues? is that the reason the media gives? Sounds like a total BS fabrication to me.

What you folks think?
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I think it's real. When you're a good slave, these kind of pranks can have such an impact on a person. Never forget all the media attention it was getting.

All you need for a suicide is a bad brief moment.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
I think the "message" is:

Don't ask questions or get too nosy about the "Royals" and their reproductive processes. Nobody, especially with 2 kids, kills themselves over a prank phone call. Either this lady found out something accidentally or they're using her as a warning in general. It's interesting that the "Duchess" is having serious pregnancy problems. While I am generally sympathetic to something like this, I have to wonder if it's because of the reptilian element. Or that they couldn't have twins, which has long been a bane to royalty because of the possibility of fighting over the succession. I believe ;when twins occurred in a royal family, usually one of them was killed. How often have you ever heard of twins in a royal family? And yet their incidence must be the same as the normal population, one would think.

My bet is that the "Duchess" will either have this pregnancy terminated entirely, or that one of the twins will be dead.
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^^^This^^^
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And no moron, not because of fake reptilian shit they created to confuse you twits, it's because William has very poor genetics from all the centuries of incest that that disgusting family practiced.
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Your post would have been fine without putting in the insult of "moron". Why can't you just state your opinion, or disagreement without insulting others? There's no need of it and it makes your excellent point sound small, petty and mean. And something that many might ignore because of your needless hostility. I'm sure William does have a lot of abominable genetics, but I also have to wonder about the "twin" aspect as I know of no royal family that has had twins for the succession. That's behind the story of "The Man in the Iron Mask". And Jacob and Esau.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
I think the "message" is:

Don't ask questions or get too nosy about the "Royals" and their reproductive processes. Nobody, especially with 2 kids, kills themselves over a prank phone call. Either this lady found out something accidentally or they're using her as a warning in general. It's interesting that the "Duchess" is having serious pregnancy problems. While I am generally sympathetic to something like this, I have to wonder if it's because of the reptilian element. Or that they couldn't have twins, which has long been a bane to royalty because of the possibility of fighting over the succession. I believe ;when twins occurred in a royal family, usually one of them was killed. How often have you ever heard of twins in a royal family? And yet their incidence must be the same as the normal population, one would think.

My bet is that the "Duchess" will either have this pregnancy terminated entirely, or that one of the twins will be dead.
 Quoting: mehitable 1524722


^^^This^^^
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And no moron, not because of fake reptilian shit they created to confuse you twits, it's because William has very poor genetics from all the centuries of incest that that disgusting family practiced.
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Your post would have been fine without putting in the insult of "moron". Why can't you just state your opinion, or disagreement without insulting others? There's no need of it and it makes your excellent point sound small, petty and mean. And something that many might ignore because of your needless hostility. I'm sure William does have a lot of abominable genetics, but I also have to wonder about the "twin" aspect as I know of no royal family that has had twins for the succession. That's behind the story of "The Man in the Iron Mask". And Jacob and Esau.
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If you weren't being moronic, I would not have called you a moron yeahsure.
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^^^This^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265


And no moron, not because of fake reptilian shit they created to confuse you twits, it's because William has very poor genetics from all the centuries of incest that that disgusting family practiced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265




Your post would have been fine without putting in the insult of "moron". Why can't you just state your opinion, or disagreement without insulting others? There's no need of it and it makes your excellent point sound small, petty and mean. And something that many might ignore because of your needless hostility. I'm sure William does have a lot of abominable genetics, but I also have to wonder about the "twin" aspect as I know of no royal family that has had twins for the succession. That's behind the story of "The Man in the Iron Mask". And Jacob and Esau.
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If you weren't being moronic, I would not have called you a moron yeahsure.
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And yeah, that twin thing is plausible.
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^^^This^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265


And no moron, not because of fake reptilian shit they created to confuse you twits, it's because William has very poor genetics from all the centuries of incest that that disgusting family practiced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265




Your post would have been fine without putting in the insult of "moron". Why can't you just state your opinion, or disagreement without insulting others? There's no need of it and it makes your excellent point sound small, petty and mean. And something that many might ignore because of your needless hostility. I'm sure William does have a lot of abominable genetics, but I also have to wonder about the "twin" aspect as I know of no royal family that has had twins for the succession. That's behind the story of "The Man in the Iron Mask". And Jacob and Esau.
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If you weren't being moronic, I would not have called you a moron yeahsure.
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So if I call you a rude and thoughtless idiot who is trying to hijack this thread by name calling, probably because this post has some (or a lot of truth) in it, we're even.
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Fuck off! then this is definitely, no doubt about it, a big ass psy ops. Bet on it.
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Totes agree! And all of those Brits BUYING into it and blaming the DJs are just dumb ass sheep!!
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Brits tend to be utterly sheepish.
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Brits are totally screwed in the head. I mean they still bow to a bunch cold hearted rich reptilian satanist scumbags.
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And so do you, numbnuts, and shes half a world away from you..
Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.
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And no moron, not because of fake reptilian shit they created to confuse you twits, it's because William has very poor genetics from all the centuries of incest that that disgusting family practiced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265




Your post would have been fine without putting in the insult of "moron". Why can't you just state your opinion, or disagreement without insulting others? There's no need of it and it makes your excellent point sound small, petty and mean. And something that many might ignore because of your needless hostility. I'm sure William does have a lot of abominable genetics, but I also have to wonder about the "twin" aspect as I know of no royal family that has had twins for the succession. That's behind the story of "The Man in the Iron Mask". And Jacob and Esau.
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If you weren't being moronic, I would not have called you a moron yeahsure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18813265


So if I call you a rude and thoughtless idiot who is trying to hijack this thread by name calling, probably because this post has some (or a lot of truth) in it, we're even.
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You would be a liar yeahsure.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
the reptoids were like "kill that bitch before she says something we will regret!" and it was done.

im thinking the dutchess told her majesty that the nurse saw the lizard eyes when the hatchling came out.

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Judging by my Karma bar I think I may have a point way more often than you do wink
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:idf10: If you hate Jews then it's easy enough to get a few hundred green karma points.
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Maybe that tells you something?
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As soon as I heard about this on TV I thought of foul play. There is no need for her to feel that bad about transferring that call to the nurse in charge
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That may have happened, and the nurse may have had other issues also, BUT, what right do we have to assume anything?

People can lose their jobs over stupid stunts like this. In this case it has turned out much, much worse.

Now we see the DJ's blubbering on the news, telling us how sorry they are.

Well it's all a bit late.

There used to be laws against nuisance callers if you could catch the perpetrators.

Well in this case we know who made the call.

If they broke the law - Let the Laws be enforced!

It won't bring the lady back, BUT, it may assist with some sort of closure for the family.

It may also make other people in the media a little more reflective before they do such things.

Practical jokes are stupid and they usually have unintended consequences!

This is a very sad tragedy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Are you freakin serious? Omg.. They played a prank ffs. They are not responsible for the suicide. Suicide is a choice. Lay blame from the grave? What a ridiculous notion. Blow this world up if people really think like you.
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They ridiculed a sensitive person in a very public way. They humiliated her. Asians still have some sense of dignity. Hers was stripped from her. Japanese people would say she lost face. It hurts real bad. Pranks like that are only "funny" to people who have no face and no dignity.
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so she goes and kills herself over losing face.?..what about her kids, she's rather be dead than be with her children....what a selfish cunt.
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Aussie: you need to shut up already. You have a foul mouth, calling a dead woman the c word. You "ass..ume" way too much. And yes, I hold the DJ's fully accountable for the prank which led to this awful mess. Pranks even in the private sector frequently end up in disaster. It's not at all funny.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
the reptoids were like "kill that bitch before she says something we will regret!" and it was done.

im thinking the dutchess told her majesty that the nurse saw the lizard eyes when the hatchling came out.
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putin
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Very weird that the media has given us zero details about how she died.
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Ditto.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
the reptoids were like "kill that bitch before she says something we will regret!" and it was done.

im thinking the dutchess told her majesty that the nurse saw the lizard eyes when the hatchling came out.
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putin
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says the aussie, subject of the queen
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Are you freakin serious? Omg.. They played a prank ffs. They are not responsible for the suicide. Suicide is a choice. Lay blame from the grave? What a ridiculous notion. Blow this world up if people really think like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15982838


They ridiculed a sensitive person in a very public way. They humiliated her. Asians still have some sense of dignity. Hers was stripped from her. Japanese people would say she lost face. It hurts real bad. Pranks like that are only "funny" to people who have no face and no dignity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29529680


so she goes and kills herself over losing face.?..what about her kids, she's rather be dead than be with her children....what a selfish cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29523091


Aussie: you need to shut up already. You have a foul mouth, calling a dead woman the c word. You "ass..ume" way too much. And yes, I hold the DJ's fully accountable for the prank which led to this awful mess. Pranks even in the private sector frequently end up in disaster. It's not at all funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7554855


and so do you..


you people seriously need some help if you think the DJ's are responible for this fiasco...like i said before, who in their right mind kills themselves over prank call?


i smell bullshit...bsflag
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I agree OP, this is the 2nd story involving a "Hospital", an "Indian" and "Death" in this small part of the world in the past 2 weeks

Here in Ireland, an Indian woman died after being refused an Abortion. Big hulabaloo over it.

But what is the connection to the Royal story?

Isn't Kate pregnant?

Maybe the cosmos is trying to tell us something

I pray for the safety of Williams child

William will be a wonderful father
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
whoever bullied that nurse after the call has blood on their hands...it's not the dj's fault ffs...i mean, who the fuck in their right mind kills themselves over a prank phone call...obviously she had issues.
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That may have happened, and the nurse may have had other issues also, BUT, what right do we have to assume anything?

People can lose their jobs over stupid stunts like this. In this case it has turned out much, much worse.

Now we see the DJ's blubbering on the news, telling us how sorry they are.

Well it's all a bit late.

There used to be laws against nuisance callers if you could catch the perpetrators.

Well in this case we know who made the call.

If they broke the law - Let the Laws be enforced!

It won't bring the lady back, BUT, it may assist with some sort of closure for the family.

It may also make other people in the media a little more reflective before they do such things.

Practical jokes are stupid and they usually have unintended consequences!

This is a very sad tragedy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

It sounds as if you are doing to the DJs what the bullies did to the receptionist who passed the call on. All full of righteous zeal!
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Isn't Kate pregnant?
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No

It's a hoax

They will milk the nations sympathy when Kate "loses" the baby

It's still leaking, Eddie
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
There's no suicide note. No one has released, not even to the family members of the deceased woman, how and in which conditions she died. There's not even any proof of suicide for that matter. And the hospital didn't threaten nor punish her in any way, so why would the woman kill herself just for making a little mistake? Because having dissapointed her colleagues? is that the reason the media gives? Sounds like a total BS fabrication to me.

What you folks think?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


There were no nurses. There was no real hospital call. All scripted using actors.

Whether the DJ's were in on it and told ahead of time what the final act would be, or if they were just the sacrificial dupes who thought they had just gotten lucky with the phone number they were given, who knows.

Message--Don't even think of prying into the Royals business or BAD things will happen.

Besides that, just another media distraction to keep everyone busy debating something that really never happened in the first place.
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I think it's a BS story, what the agenda is though, I have no clue.
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CAN EVERYONE GET THIS STRAIGHT

THE NURSE WHO DIED

WAS NOT THE NURSE WHO WE HEAR SPEAKING TO THE DJS

SHE JUST ANSWERED THE CALL AND PATCHED IT THROUGH






WHO EVER KILLED HER

KILLED THE WRONG NURSE
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CAN EVERYONE GET THIS STRAIGHT

THE NURSE WHO DIED

WAS NOT THE NURSE WHO WE HEAR SPEAKING TO THE DJS

SHE JUST ANSWERED THE CALL AND PATCHED IT THROUGH






WHO EVER KILLED HER

KILLED THE WRONG NURSE
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Aussies lack sensivity that's why they can't get their heads around this.
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You fucken stupid pom! Not too bright are you? Obviously you are easily fooled! Go back to sleep you fucken idiot!
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whoever bullied that nurse after the call has blood on their hands...it's not the dj's fault ffs...i mean, who the fuck in their right mind kills themselves over a prank phone call...obviously she had issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29523091


That may have happened, and the nurse may have had other issues also, BUT, what right do we have to assume anything?

People can lose their jobs over stupid stunts like this. In this case it has turned out much, much worse.

Now we see the DJ's blubbering on the news, telling us how sorry they are.

Well it's all a bit late.

There used to be laws against nuisance callers if you could catch the perpetrators.

Well in this case we know who made the call.

If they broke the law - Let the Laws be enforced!

It won't bring the lady back, BUT, it may assist with some sort of closure for the family.

It may also make other people in the media a little more reflective before they do such things.

Practical jokes are stupid and they usually have unintended consequences!

This is a very sad tragedy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

It sounds as if you are doing to the DJs what the bullies did to the receptionist who passed the call on. All full of righteous zeal!
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ohhhhh i love it. thumbs
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CAN EVERYONE GET THIS STRAIGHT

THE NURSE WHO DIED

WAS NOT THE NURSE WHO WE HEAR SPEAKING TO THE DJS

SHE JUST ANSWERED THE CALL AND PATCHED IT THROUGH






WHO EVER KILLED HER

KILLED THE WRONG NURSE
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Yes you are correct! She was killed!!! The people that believe it was suicide are an insult to our intelligence!
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Aussies lack sensivity that's why they can't get their heads around this.
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blow it out your arse.

none of us aussies wanted this to happen to the nurse or anyone for that matter, but to blame the DJ's is idiotic to say the least.
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errr my point exactly. you refuse to accept responsibility for your actions. no call no death GET IT!
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Are you stupid? If she killed herself, she took the responsibility. If you get upset at me calling you stupid and then go kill yourself, am I responsible for killing you?
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I think it's a BS story, what the agenda is though, I have no clue.
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You sum it up nicely! Spot on!
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I think it's a BS story, what the agenda is though, I have no clue.
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You sum it up nicely! Spot on!
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It's a distraction to take the spotlight off one Max Clifford, who was connected to Savile, who was connected to Charlie who ......

Seems to have worked quite well, considering this thread.
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Re: The Indian nurse who "killed herself" due to the Aussie prank sounds totally like a psyops.
The DJ nurse story might just be a cover, the Indian nurse probably saw something related to Duchess and they killed her to keep her quiet.





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