If God wants us to love him... why does he use fear and intimidation tactics???

Please I need an answer... does anyone know??????

He doesn't...we do.

the holy babble was written by man, not God.

Please explain??? Why did God create hell to torture us???

Not saying you are right but actions really do speak louder than words.Just because you read the words doesn't mean you have to be in fear before the 'appointed time' for you.

1Co:4:20:
For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.

Heb:10:31:
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

Ur captain, not some god...grow urself...
Thoughts are the key

Don't worry OP. God loves you.

WHY should I love god??? What has he done for me so far???

Maybe if god made the world a nice place i would love god.

I see god-made creations killing each other???

Why didn't god create us to be smarter??????

Here's what Jonah said about God, when God forgave the city of Nineveh when they repented. You see, Jonah hated them and wanted God to destroy them and when he didn't, Jonah wanted to die rather than see God have mercy on them.

So, bottom line is: GOD IS MORE GRACIOUS, COMPASSIONATE, LOVING, AND PATIENT THAN YOU OR I OR ANYONE!!!

"When God saw what they (Nineveh) did and how they turned from their evil ways; he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.

But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry.

He prayed to the Lord, "O Lord, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish.

I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity.

Now, O Lord, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live." Jonah 3:10-4:3

Isa:65 is all about the being sent to hell. The opening verses are about what they were doing for the 3 1/2 years before the 7th trump sounds. They are the ones numbered to the sword so what they experience in hell for the 1,000 years is what those punishment verses cover and the servants are the group that comes alive by the evening of the 1st day and are the very same ones alive on the last day of the 1,000 years. Satan is released as are all other fallen angels but the gates of hell are to remain closed until the Great White Throne and at that time the ones under punishment are welcomed into the new earth and they will be the ones building houses and having children. Jerusalem is mentioned in that chapter an that is where the 'servants' will be in the new earth, inside the new Jerusalem of Re:21.

If you need more Hebrews:12 is also the Great White Throne event and 'the rest' in re:20 are being chastised and forgiven rather than being sent to the fiery lake. Not being let out when Satan was would have meant they would have ended up in the fery lake.

LIAR.

COMPASSION ISN'T WATCHING YOUR OWN CREATIONS KILL EACH OTHER AND THEN THROWING THEM INTO ETERNAL HELL AFTERWARDS.

He created you. I'm not big on Christianity. But I do think God would not create something he did not want. There is a reason for everything. We are simply not able to comprehend God in anyway.

If the doctor comes in and tell you the truth about that malignant tumor inside you body that is going to kill you with hideous death...

Why is it we do not accuse the doctor of using intimidation of fear upon us?

Why should not the doctor just lie to all those who would become afraid at hearing the truth...

Just flat out lie to them or pervert the results and diagnostics unto them so they think they are just fine and dandy....

Until the process becomes hideousness noticeable by them.

The the doc can say oh well what do you know..you got death working in you and dead you will be be in less than a month or may be two or may three or maybe six.

Would you like to know all the gooey details now of how you are going to be eating away in this process of death that will devour your life away?

I can give you step by step details of what you are going to endure even the little thingies that will agonize you.
And this will make you want to fly off the nearest high rise and splatter the side walk.

Or better yet let you go through it and never even speak of it...and fob you off when you whine to me.

Dr.Evil will see you now come on back.

God or whatever u call it, is just as bad ass hell as you can possible imagine, on the bright side of that it can be loving and harmony, eather way it is all... Is one big cosmic soup of energy

OP, God is not overly concerned with us loving Him, because when we get to know Him a He really is, doing so becomes almost a reflex. Don't sweat it.

They'll tell you that "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom", but it's not the *end*. Ultimately, "Perfect love casts out fear".

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because the whole thing is a lie, isn't it obvious?

He doesn't. People did that to gain control over you. The real God just IS. He/she/it doesn't need words or books to communicate with you, that should be obvious from the first moment anyone even ponders him, I never understood this.

Perfection after the trial run, think of this as a seed bank for the new earth, a flourish of life at the start as even the sparrows come back and then we can explore the universe at a leisurely rate.


Isa:60:22:
A little one shall become a thousand,
and a small one a strong nation:
I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.


Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb:12:23:
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.

Last Edited by MHz on 12/12/2012 08:40 PM

Simple stuff

this is the way i see it op.

love is not intimidation. blackmail, or threats, nor is it gained by these tactics.

love does not frighten or punish.

god is perfect love.

hence god does not use these strategies.

strictly my humble opinion.

respectfully, david

Nor is backtracking on a determination.

Jer:4:28:
For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.

What book WASN'T written by man? You people sound stupid when you say things like this.

Damn, that was good. Listen up OP. Poster just made sense.

God is not real. Only humans seeking the truth out of fear create this image of a divine being that rules over them.
The truth:
I am God

Job 9:24
King James Version (KJV)
24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?

Satan is in charge now, using the gentiles to do his work on this Earth. The Judges (Children of Israel) who are supposed to be executing Gods law are on the bottom of the social ladder and they have no clue about their identity and their Job in this Earth. That's why the world is not a "nice place."

Stop looking for a way to blame your creator and instead pray to him for answers.

His name is AHAYAH and his sons name is YASHAYAH (Saviour).

I've said this before, I've had an NDE. It is as real to me as typing on this computer. The love was intense and I felt no religion. There are those that have faith and there are those in the know.

MORE LIES.

GOD CREATED SATAN!!!!!! WHY DOES HE LET SATAN CONTROL US IF HE IS SO COMPASSIONATE???