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This whole disarmament thing is freaky.... | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29998220  United States12/15/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No real good solution to this mess, guns are bad, but so is a police state. Pick your poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9591002 "guns are bad" One of the single most ignorant statements on GLP, and there are a LOT to choose from. If it weren't for guns, you would never have had one MINUTE of freedom. Please explain how, in your warped little mind, the simple statement "guns are bad" is one of the single most ignorant statements ever made on GLP. Surely you can do better than the the borderline Orwellian guns = freedom contention used in that last sentence of yours. Guns DO equal freedom Ask ANY of the founders. Without men with guns, you never would have had even ONE MINUTE of freedom. you would be nothing more than a serf... IF you were even ALLOWED to exist at all. Sad, but you CAN'T ask any of the uncountable MILLIONS who died all over the world, as a direct result of not being able to defend themselves from power mad animals with guns. P.S - My "warped little mind" has an IQ that has been tested 3 times, at 150 plus. I spent 10 years as a major market radio talk show host, and always pulled in excellent numbers. Not too shabby for a "warped little mind". Eh? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29998220 United States12/15/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, they sure don't own ME, so you must have somehow gotten me confused with the libtard masses here. I live in a paid for 4 bedroom, 3 bath home, with two high-end paid for vehicles, and have no outstanding debts. And I only buy American. So how, exactly, does China own me? i say it slowly for you, you live within the borders of a country who owes China more than you and your grandkids will ever be able to pay off. And that house, put together by machinery manufactured mostly in china. USA today is most certainly not the USA of a few decades ago. Somewhere along the line you guys forgot what made your country the greatest. PWNED!!!! PWNED, according to an Oztard who is one click down in intelligence from the OTHER moron Oztard. Hard as that is to believe. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29998220 United States12/15/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, they sure don't own ME, so you must have somehow gotten me confused with the libtard masses here. I live in a paid for 4 bedroom, 3 bath home, with two high-end paid for vehicles, and have no outstanding debts. And I only buy American. So how, exactly, does China own me? i say it slowly for you, you live within the borders of a country who owes China more than you and your grandkids will ever be able to pay off. And that house, put together by machinery manufactured mostly in china. USA today is most certainly not the USA of a few decades ago. Somewhere along the line you guys forgot what made your country the greatest. PWNED!!!! What... You think posting this twice makes it any more "valid"? LOL... Just makes you seem twice the idiot. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29998220 United States12/15/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the night shift is going good for you tonight. I see that you are making that money with all these posts. It is obvious you are not australian. I could care less about IP ranges or user ID's but since you brought it up. What program you running to keep switching addy's but still coming up with Australia. Might wanna get your money back on that program. Fuck off troll/shill. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01  I've tried and tried, and looked and looked... And I STILL can't find anyone with such a putrid mix of sheer idiocy, and pure obnoxiousness, as the Oztards on this forum. |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 29600330  Australia12/15/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i feel naked and derailed ;) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29998220 United States12/15/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, it's a hot topic. What did you expect? But at least keep in mind that the derailment happened because of your "countrymen". They always seem to have a sincere dedication to doing just, that all over this forum. Libtardism cannot exist in the light, and therefore must resort to other tactics. Bad attention, is better than NO attention, in their "minds". |
| Innards_outward User ID: 1080787 United States12/15/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No real good solution to this mess, guns are bad, but so is a police state. Pick your poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9591002 We as United States citizens have a 2nd amendment right to bare arms. Our forefathers knew what they were doing giving us citizens the right to defend our property and family against criminals or a a thug in the white house. oh oh oh now here's a good idea..... lets make a cuntry called America....fill it with delusional retards who believe they have a god-given right to buy assult weapons-- wonder how that will work. Says the guy from a penal colony island. Progressive Paradise and undercut morals abound. “You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...” ― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go! |
| InTheHood User ID: 29587186 United States12/15/2012 11:59 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree w/poster that said it's better than everyone be armed. I also believe children should learn from a young age that guns are tools not toys. It's an ethical issue. Do you subject all your citizens to these scenarios and take away their protection to save "x" children/adults a year or risk WORSE happening if all were to be disarmed, because everyone knows, once that happens, what is happening overseas will happen here. So really more people will be harmed in the end by disarming us. It is a tragedy, I can't imagine being one of the parents that was NOT allowed to go see my child...I'd flip out...and my heart goes out to all of the families, it sincerely does, BUT don't put the rest of us in the same boat, unable to protect ourselves in vengeance or misplaced grief. Guns DO NOT kill people, PEOPLE kill people. I have not yet seen a gun develop arms and legs and go shoot someone. You are NOT going to rid society of the crazies, the druggies, the criminals, and if you look at numbers killed, even in these types of tragedies, and look at numbers killed year round by the "criminals" I think you'll be able to better balance your views on the whole matter. The criminals/gangs kill MORE year round than ALL of these tragedies put together...so is one person more valuable than another just because they weren't all killed at once? I don't think so, we are all worthy of living, and all worthy of protecting ourselves. Without guns, we are ALL defenseless, the criminals WILL still have them and WE will be at their mercy. What is for the greater good? It is an ethical question. There are no "right" answers. But my gut instinct is, once our ability to protect ourselves is gone, we're at the mercy of the real criminals AND the crazies, among others. Most gun owners are responsible. I say, throw the book at any gun owner that ISN'T responsible, i.e., kids get a hold of their guns, kill someone, they are liable...prison time, make it HARSH, but DO NOT disarm the entire population. What do we say to the families that lost their children to war? What do we say to the families that lost a loved one to any other type of criminal? There is nothing that can heal those wounds, but disarming the public isn't the answer, if that happens, there will be MORE deaths, not less. |
| Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 29600330 Australia12/16/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree w/poster that said it's better than everyone be armed. I also believe children should learn from a young age that guns are tools not toys. Quoting: InTheHood It's an ethical issue. Do you subject all your citizens to these scenarios and take away their protection to save "x" children/adults a year or risk WORSE happening if all were to be disarmed, because everyone knows, once that happens, what is happening overseas will happen here. So really more people will be harmed in the end by disarming us. It is a tragedy, I can't imagine being one of the parents that was NOT allowed to go see my child...I'd flip out...and my heart goes out to all of the families, it sincerely does, BUT don't put the rest of us in the same boat, unable to protect ourselves in vengeance or misplaced grief. Guns DO NOT kill people, PEOPLE kill people. I have not yet seen a gun develop arms and legs and go shoot someone. You are NOT going to rid society of the crazies, the druggies, the criminals, and if you look at numbers killed, even in these types of tragedies, and look at numbers killed year round by the "criminals" I think you'll be able to better balance your views on the whole matter. The criminals/gangs kill MORE year round than ALL of these tragedies put together...so is one person more valuable than another just because they weren't all killed at once? I don't think so, we are all worthy of living, and all worthy of protecting ourselves. Without guns, we are ALL defenseless, the criminals WILL still have them and WE will be at their mercy. What is for the greater good? It is an ethical question. There are no "right" answers. But my gut instinct is, once our ability to protect ourselves is gone, we're at the mercy of the real criminals AND the crazies, among others. Most gun owners are responsible. I say, throw the book at any gun owner that ISN'T responsible, i.e., kids get a hold of their guns, kill someone, they are liable...prison time, make it HARSH, but DO NOT disarm the entire population. What do we say to the families that lost their children to war? What do we say to the families that lost a loved one to any other type of criminal? There is nothing that can heal those wounds, but disarming the public isn't the answer, if that happens, there will be MORE deaths, not less. thoughtful response.. ty.. back on thread regardless of where you stand.... the first point was posted as a question about comments to the point... the US is facing the question soon enough, no doubt.... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 12/16/2012 12:17 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 29589057 United States12/16/2012 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree w/poster that said it's better than everyone be armed. I also believe children should learn from a young age that guns are tools not toys. Quoting: InTheHood It's an ethical issue. Do you subject all your citizens to these scenarios and take away their protection to save "x" children/adults a year or risk WORSE happening if all were to be disarmed, because everyone knows, once that happens, what is happening overseas will happen here. So really more people will be harmed in the end by disarming us. It is a tragedy, I can't imagine being one of the parents that was NOT allowed to go see my child...I'd flip out...and my heart goes out to all of the families, it sincerely does, BUT don't put the rest of us in the same boat, unable to protect ourselves in vengeance or misplaced grief. Guns DO NOT kill people, PEOPLE kill people. I have not yet seen a gun develop arms and legs and go shoot someone. You are NOT going to rid society of the crazies, the druggies, the criminals, and if you look at numbers killed, even in these types of tragedies, and look at numbers killed year round by the "criminals" I think you'll be able to better balance your views on the whole matter. The criminals/gangs kill MORE year round than ALL of these tragedies put together...so is one person more valuable than another just because they weren't all killed at once? I don't think so, we are all worthy of living, and all worthy of protecting ourselves. Without guns, we are ALL defenseless, the criminals WILL still have them and WE will be at their mercy. What is for the greater good? It is an ethical question. There are no "right" answers. But my gut instinct is, once our ability to protect ourselves is gone, we're at the mercy of the real criminals AND the crazies, among others. Most gun owners are responsible. I say, throw the book at any gun owner that ISN'T responsible, i.e., kids get a hold of their guns, kill someone, they are liable...prison time, make it HARSH, but DO NOT disarm the entire population. What do we say to the families that lost their children to war? What do we say to the families that lost a loved one to any other type of criminal? There is nothing that can heal those wounds, but disarming the public isn't the answer, if that happens, there will be MORE deaths, not less.  WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30009766 Australia12/16/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No real good solution to this mess, guns are bad, but so is a police state. Pick your poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9591002 We as United States citizens have a 2nd amendment right to bare arms. Our forefathers knew what they were doing giving us citizens the right to defend our property and family against criminals or a a thug in the white house. oh oh oh now here's a good idea..... lets make a cuntry called America....fill it with delusional retards who believe they have a god-given right to buy assult weapons-- wonder how that will work. Why don't you want protection? |
