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It Is Time To Legalize Heroin

 
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I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
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So...

If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)...

Then how could it fund anything?

Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot?
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I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


So...

If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)...

Then how could it fund anything?

Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot?
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You're posing a question for a hypothetical fantasy. Stick to reality.

In reality. Heroin is expensive and costs the lives of thousands of innocent people so you can get high.

FACE REALITY.
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the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries...
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Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
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Rehab is much more expensive than that, I have been told.

I had a friend just this last Summer who nearly overdosed on a cocktail of pills she was taking, unbeknownst to everyone.

When she decided to detox after almost dying, the 'center' for her withdrawal required something like a $13,000 down payment.

Just to get IN the doors.


Now how is that fair?

Perhaps that is where the REAL problem lays.

I think yes.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I think there is a big difference between the U.S. and Canada.. however.. he actively chooses to fund his choices... which are all detrimental to his body and mind... its his choice.. he makes it daily...he has come up with a list of excuses for why it is essential for him to make those choices.. because he wants to stay high.. it's as simple as that.. it annoys me that he is trying to draw pity when its clearly his choices that are the issue.. you can't let a junkie tug on your heart strings.. they know what they are doing.. they are professional liars.
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From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes.

This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together.

Not for long anyway.


I hear the leg cramps are torture.

That is what she told me.

I am happy to not know.

:)
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the only way for you to get what you want in the world is to learn to forgive
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Yup... so do so...

I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


So...

If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)...

Then how could it fund anything?

Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot?
 Quoting: pi


You're posing a question for a hypothetical fantasy. Stick to reality.

In reality. Heroin is expensive and costs the lives of thousands of innocent people so you can get high.

FACE REALITY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


FACE THE FORCE OF CHANGE, BIGOT
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Rehab is much more expensive than that, I have been told.

I had a friend just this last Summer who nearly overdosed on a cocktail of pills she was taking, unbeknownst to everyone.

When she decided to detox after almost dying, the 'center' for her withdrawal required something like a $13,000 down payment.

Just to get IN the doors.


Now how is that fair?

Perhaps that is where the REAL problem lays.

I think yes.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I think there is a big difference between the U.S. and Canada.. however.. he actively chooses to fund his choices... which are all detrimental to his body and mind... its his choice.. he makes it daily...he has come up with a list of excuses for why it is essential for him to make those choices.. because he wants to stay high.. it's as simple as that.. it annoys me that he is trying to draw pity when its clearly his choices that are the issue.. you can't let a junkie tug on your heart strings.. they know what they are doing.. they are professional liars.
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From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes.

This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together.

Not for long anyway.


I hear the leg cramps are torture.

That is what she told me.

I am happy to not know.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


So what?

Its the choice they made. There is a consequence for every choice we make.

Think about the people starving on perfectly good land because they need to grow poppies so that junkies can support their habits 2,000 miles across the world.

Who cares if their legs jerk. What about the innocent people that have to die under the rule of regimes like the Taliban whom are funded by junkies?

Think about it. Junkies will try to make you feel sorry for them, about how hard it is to kick, about how painful it is.. and not one of them will acknowledge the innocent lives that are lost so they can get high. NONE of them will even give a shit.

It's a selfish lying habbit.
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the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries...
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Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
 Quoting: pi

from a critical thinking standpoint, if people are in "severe" pain as the study suggests, then getting them high will logically help them forget about the pain and think instead of higher vibration good feelings instead of being afraid of the pain. do you understand? it doesn't help them function.
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From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes.

This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together.

Not for long anyway.


I hear the leg cramps are torture.

That is what she told me.

I am happy to not know.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Well... it's worse than that...

The problem is... some bodies and minds dance incredibly well with morphinoids... hence the addiction! It's not about a "rush", its about feeling the best that one can.

For some, only an opiate seems to do this.

It doesn't really hinder anyone. Remember that there have been many historical opium addicts that have produced great works of art.

Look at modern music... I mean, really... ;)
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Guessing you've never been close to an addict before. Thank god for that. Learn how to deal with people in a humane way instead of talking like you're better then someone because that my friend will get you nowhere but lonely.
 Quoting: Dapurps


^Nice way to feel sorry for yourself and change the topic liar.

Back to your old tricks eh?

Oh boo hoo I'm an addict, oh boo hoo.. I can't go to rehab because I can't afford it.

Meanwhile. IN REALITY. You are lying. Drawing pity, and funding your own demise when you have enough money to go to rehab right now.

L_I_A_R

go ahead and boo hoo some more about how sad your life is...
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I'm actually having a great time right now knowing i still have a heart left unlike you hf Enjoy picking on addicts and one of these days you're gonna be loosing a couple teeth.

Trust me kid living a self righteous life is no way to live.
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I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


This makes no sense. People will always do drugs so me buying heroin thats cut to shit has no effect. Read the title of the thread. Its the same with weed. Innocent families get jailed and killed for smoking weed. I didn't chose for it to be criminalized.

Prohibition is the problem not the fucking drug. Live and let live and focus on your self righteous life instead.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

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drug use is not used to connect with mother gaia if that were the case then the individual would go out in the world and see Her
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^Nice way to feel sorry for yourself and change the topic liar.

Back to your old tricks eh?

Oh boo hoo I'm an addict, oh boo hoo.. I can't go to rehab because I can't afford it.

Meanwhile. IN REALITY. You are lying. Drawing pity, and funding your own demise when you have enough money to go to rehab right now.

L_I_A_R

go ahead and boo hoo some more about how sad your life is...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


I'm actually having a great time right now knowing i still have a heart left unlike you hf Enjoy picking on addicts and one of these days you're gonna be loosing a couple teeth.

Trust me kid living a self righteous life is no way to live.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


This makes no sense. People will always do drugs so me buying heroin thats cut to shit has no effect. Read the title of the thread. Its the same with weed. Innocent families get jailed and killed for smoking weed. I didn't chose for it to be criminalized.

Prohibition is the problem not the fucking drug. Live and let live and focus on your self righteous life instead.
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Another classic example of the bystander effect and mob mentality. If everyone else does it, why not me?

You have some nerve.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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I'm actually having a great time right now knowing i still have a heart left unlike you hf Enjoy picking on addicts and one of these days you're gonna be loosing a couple teeth.

Trust me kid living a self righteous life is no way to live.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


This makes no sense. People will always do drugs so me buying heroin thats cut to shit has no effect. Read the title of the thread. Its the same with weed. Innocent families get jailed and killed for smoking weed. I didn't chose for it to be criminalized.

Prohibition is the problem not the fucking drug. Live and let live and focus on your self righteous life instead.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Another classic example of the bystander effect and mob mentality. If everyone else does it, why not me?

You have some nerve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


You missed my point.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it.

You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


This makes no sense. People will always do drugs so me buying heroin thats cut to shit has no effect. Read the title of the thread. Its the same with weed. Innocent families get jailed and killed for smoking weed. I didn't chose for it to be criminalized.

Prohibition is the problem not the fucking drug. Live and let live and focus on your self righteous life instead.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Another classic example of the bystander effect and mob mentality. If everyone else does it, why not me?

You have some nerve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


You missed my point.
 Quoting: Dapurps


You have none. You're interested in self deception. That is the crux of your point.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Put a 20 year pot smoker next to a 20 year heroin user and see if you can spot the difference.
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the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries...
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Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
 Quoting: pi

from a critical thinking standpoint, if people are in "severe" pain as the study suggests, then getting them high will logically help them forget about the pain and think instead of higher vibration good feelings instead of being afraid of the pain. do you understand? it doesn't help them function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710


Yes...

don't you realize the PAIN that some face just by living... you have no idea... ever hear of borderline personality disorder? It is FAR, FAR worse than addiction. Opioids treat the symptoms, but due to American opiophobia, they aren't studied for that.

[link to journals.psychiatryonline.org]
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Depends which "crap" you're talking about. Most pharma drugs are far worse then the average street drugs. Id rather be around a heroin addict then someone on Anti-depressants when shit hits the fan.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes.

This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together.

Not for long anyway.


I hear the leg cramps are torture.

That is what she told me.

I am happy to not know.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Well... it's worse than that...

The problem is... some bodies and minds dance incredibly well with morphinoids... hence the addiction! It's not about a "rush", its about feeling the best that one can.

For some, only an opiate seems to do this.

It doesn't really hinder anyone. Remember that there have been many historical opium addicts that have produced great works of art.

Look at modern music... I mean, really... ;)
 Quoting: pi


Absolutely.

The Muse is much stronger when one feels in Touch.

However..one must balance hedonism with service. To serve Self primarily is a bastardization of the Will of the Perfection.

Genius just IS.

One must learn to transmute the waters properly.




:)
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lol. this is hilarious!

they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


So... heroin has tolerance, right? Simple question.
 Quoting: pi


wat?

heroine has tolerance?

the human body has tolerance.. ugh.. the drug is the drug.. wtf are you on now??? look how poor your education is... you think the drug itself has tolerance.. you can't even tell the difference between the human and the drug.. that is how much your brain has rot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Right-o. So then, they might become tolerant to the original narcotic effects... yes?

this study is over fifteen years old
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Don't see you finding a hole in it.

I don't know how I feel about this.

The Libertarian in me says that I should be allowed to ingest whatever I want, from Rat Poison to the hardest of drugs.

But needles and amphetamines are always a bad idea. I live in a part of the country where there's a meth house in every neighborhood, and let me tell you... Amphetamine psychosis is a scary thing.
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Yeah so take it out of the hands of criminals. They can't compete in an open market.
 Quoting: pi


I'm not so sure I'd trust our government to manufacture heroin either, with their conflict poppies bought from Afghanistan..

I've seen the evil face of Amphetamines too many times... You see a man with a home and a career turned into the empty shell of a man in the matter of months. I've never known anyone who just casually used Crystal Meth, it was a NEED to use. They'd do things they otherwise wouldn't do to get another fix.

I could get behind a full legalization of Hallucinogens and Marijuana, but Meth is where I draw my line in the sand.
 Quoting: jadksn 31069334


Hmm. Yes methamp does have a dedicated user group.

Keep in mind though, that in the USA, children are prescribed both amphetamine (Adderall) and methamphetamine (Desoxyn). For ADD. Not saying I'm agreeing, but still, if it's supposedly safe for kids...
 Quoting: pi


Amphetamines are terrible for virtually every function of the body, of course it's not safe for kids. And it's disgusting that unsuspecting parents would be pushed these drugs with their kids at such a young and vital age.

I was put on legal Amphetamine when I had faith in the health system, right around the time I was put on an antipsychotic for insomnia. I was a kid and they had me taking schizophrenic-level doses of Seroquel because I couldn't sleep and was anxious. Well, I was a zombie for a few years, I didn't feel any emotions. I slept plenty but never felt rested. Then they thought it would be wise to give me speed at the same time so I could have enough energy for school. I was taking a god damn pharmaceutical speedball.. And I remember what my Psychiatrist told me I'd be taking these drugs for the rest of my life once I started taking them...

So I don't put too much faith in these pseudo-doctors anymore.
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the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710


Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
 Quoting: pi

from a critical thinking standpoint, if people are in "severe" pain as the study suggests, then getting them high will logically help them forget about the pain and think instead of higher vibration good feelings instead of being afraid of the pain. do you understand? it doesn't help them function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710


Yes...

don't you realize the PAIN that some face just by living... you have no idea... ever hear of borderline personality disorder? It is FAR, FAR worse than addiction. Opioids treat the symptoms, but due to American opiophobia, they aren't studied for that.

[link to journals.psychiatryonline.org]
 Quoting: pi


You're still just looking to rationalize poor choices.
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This makes no sense. People will always do drugs so me buying heroin thats cut to shit has no effect. Read the title of the thread. Its the same with weed. Innocent families get jailed and killed for smoking weed. I didn't chose for it to be criminalized.

Prohibition is the problem not the fucking drug. Live and let live and focus on your self righteous life instead.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Another classic example of the bystander effect and mob mentality. If everyone else does it, why not me?

You have some nerve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


You missed my point.
 Quoting: Dapurps


You have none. You're interested in self deception. That is the crux of your point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Instead of picking on your average addicts go stand against the pharma companies putting kids on Ritalin and meth and anti-depressants. Mister tough guy know it all.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22971528


Put a 20 year pot smoker next to a 20 year heroin user and see if you can spot the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Then chuck in someone who breathes the petroleum-laced air that we have in our cities and try it.

Neither opiates nor cannabis have ever been documented to damage the body in any way...

You did read the post right?

Cause so far you've went along and bitched about every part, without coming up with any info to go along with your abuse.
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Another classic example of the bystander effect and mob mentality. If everyone else does it, why not me?

You have some nerve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


You missed my point.
 Quoting: Dapurps


You have none. You're interested in self deception. That is the crux of your point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Instead of picking on your average addicts go stand against the pharma companies putting kids on Ritalin and meth and anti-depressants. Mister tough guy know it all.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I'm very much against big pharma. I think they are evil bastards. I think this entire western society is run by evil bastards. I do not support a shred of it.

It does not mean I support the destruction of my own body, and self deception.

Everything is a choice, and you choose to lie to yourself, and then rationalize your lies by shifting the blame to other things... at the end of the day.. its still just you.. trying to stay as fucked up as possible, and society has nothing to do with it. If it did.. everyone would be on heroin.. but people make better choices don't they?
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From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes.

This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together.

Not for long anyway.


I hear the leg cramps are torture.

That is what she told me.

I am happy to not know.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Well... it's worse than that...

The problem is... some bodies and minds dance incredibly well with morphinoids... hence the addiction! It's not about a "rush", its about feeling the best that one can.

For some, only an opiate seems to do this.

It doesn't really hinder anyone. Remember that there have been many historical opium addicts that have produced great works of art.

Look at modern music... I mean, really... ;)
 Quoting: pi


Absolutely.

The Muse is much stronger when one feels in Touch.

However..one must balance hedonism with service. To serve Self primarily is a bastardization of the Will of the Perfection.

Genius just IS.

One must learn to transmute the waters properly.




:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Hmmm....

What if someone has rage constantly building within them?

They want to create, yet rage clouds their vision...

Not disagreeing of course... the mind is always in control.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22971528


Put a 20 year pot smoker next to a 20 year heroin user and see if you can spot the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Then chuck in someone who breathes the petroleum-laced air that we have in our cities and try it.

Neither opiates nor cannabis have ever been documented to damage the body in any way...

You did read the post right?

Cause so far you've went along and bitched about every part, without coming up with any info to go along with your abuse.
 Quoting: pi


You're delusional.

Heroin addicts need heroin in order to function, to simply get up and get going. Some of them will lie motionless until they shoot up so that they can get up.. and you still don't think it does any damage to the body?

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Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
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from a critical thinking standpoint, if people are in "severe" pain as the study suggests, then getting them high will logically help them forget about the pain and think instead of higher vibration good feelings instead of being afraid of the pain. do you understand? it doesn't help them function.
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Yes...

don't you realize the PAIN that some face just by living... you have no idea... ever hear of borderline personality disorder? It is FAR, FAR worse than addiction. Opioids treat the symptoms, but due to American opiophobia, they aren't studied for that.

[link to journals.psychiatryonline.org]
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You're still just looking to rationalize poor choices.
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In what way now?

I'm not an addict... what are my poor choices?

Do tell me.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Put a 20 year pot smoker next to a 20 year heroin user and see if you can spot the difference.
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Then chuck in someone who breathes the petroleum-laced air that we have in our cities and try it.

Neither opiates nor cannabis have ever been documented to damage the body in any way...

You did read the post right?

Cause so far you've went along and bitched about every part, without coming up with any info to go along with your abuse.
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You're delusional.

Heroin addicts need heroin in order to function, to simply get up and get going. Some of them will lie motionless until they shoot up so that they can get up.. and you still don't think it does any damage to the body?

elohel
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They need it to FUNCTION now and you'd still have them without it?

Tsk tsk tsk...
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the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries...
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Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK.

You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to...
 Quoting: pi

from a critical thinking standpoint, if people are in "severe" pain as the study suggests, then getting them high will logically help them forget about the pain and think instead of higher vibration good feelings instead of being afraid of the pain. do you understand? it doesn't help them function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710


Yes...

don't you realize the PAIN that some face just by living... you have no idea... ever hear of borderline personality disorder? It is FAR, FAR worse than addiction. Opioids treat the symptoms, but due to American opiophobia, they aren't studied for that.

[link to journals.psychiatryonline.org]
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I have a very good idea as I've been alive on this planet for 22 years and have compassion for my fellow man. What you need to know about psychology and psychiatry is that it's a very interesting idea, but it's European (Freud) and mostly based on one guy... people hail it as some universal truth and thus treat behavior as some biological expression, when the truth of the matter is we are matter as well as spirit.
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Maybe legalise marijuana but if you've ever seen a junkie age 20 years in five you'll never agree to legalise this crap.
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Put a 20 year pot smoker next to a 20 year heroin user and see if you can spot the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


Then chuck in someone who breathes the petroleum-laced air that we have in our cities and try it.

Neither opiates nor cannabis have ever been documented to damage the body in any way...

You did read the post right?

Cause so far you've went along and bitched about every part, without coming up with any info to go along with your abuse.
 Quoting: pi


You're delusional.

Heroin addicts need heroin in order to function, to simply get up and get going. Some of them will lie motionless until they shoot up so that they can get up.. and you still don't think it does any damage to the body?

elohel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264


They need it to FUNCTION now and you'd still have them without it?

Tsk tsk tsk...
 Quoting: pi


Nice way to avoid the question. Like I said. You're delusional. If heroin did no damage to the body, you'd be able to do it for 20 years, and walk away without a scratch.. but CLEARLY, that is not the case..

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