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Billxam User ID: 19542178 United States 12/27/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol Quoting: Mehdi 17601732 Peace be upon you. [link to www.freerepublic.com] Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
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Sledster User ID: 30917618 United States 12/27/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.feinstein.senate.gov] Quoting: OutdoorsMan Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds Great. They're going to ban handguns but they can't pass a budget? Just what I was thinking. They have the time to piss off 2/3 of americans by banning things, but cant agree on a budget or tax cuts. WTF? I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick. |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 12/27/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those fucking pricks can't come to any resolution on the economy BUT they sure can muster up a vote on guns. Is anyone else getting pissed at these buffoons??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26627602 YES “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
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WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30836015 United States 12/27/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It won't stop here!!! They will ban everything except bolt action rifles that do not accept magazines and revolvers. Quoting: OutdoorsMan Then they will ban the ammo.. no. but anyone who's got 10,000 rounds of ammo is probably gonna have to answer a lot of questions. why would that matter if someone has 10,000 rounds of ammo and what kind of questions would they have to answer. WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30653248 United States 12/27/2012 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol Quoting: Mehdi 17601732 Peace be upon you. Ignorant. This will have no bearing on criminals, the killers. It will only effect innocent, responsible people, the defenders against the criminals. the 2 main gun problems in this country are: 1) ghetto gangstas 2 and right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 949959 United Kingdom 12/27/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol Quoting: Mehdi 17601732 Peace be upon you. "Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed. Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries." [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677. The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609. Do the maths & inform yourself before you condescend to others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 12/27/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the article, it says that people with prior ownership will be grandfathered in. .... When they come to your house to take them, that's when it is all going to end. As for the Brits, there is more crime per capita on your little island without guns then in America. 98% of gun violence in this country is done with illegally obtained weapons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13310174 Your murder rate is 4 times ours. You also have an astronomically higher amount of rapes, burglaries and robberies, that continues to soar high above us and other other countries. Not to mention after your gun control laws, your homicide rate has shot through the roof. The USA rate continues to decline. [link to www.justfacts.com] People speak out their ears. It's proven over and over in country after country, city after city - gun laws equate with more crime, not less. I'm so tired of people spewing this nonsensical information that gun control works. It doesn't. It's been proven that it doesn't. It's been proven it actually makes it worse. But people from other countries mouthing this nonsense is even more ridiculous. |
WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30836015 United States 12/27/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see our favorite AC is back did you pick up another shift or was the morning not profitable enough for you. WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30717724 United States 12/27/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Diane Fiendsteinis now going to combine legislation to ban knives with stones over 50 grams. If your caught with a stone over 50 grams and a sling, it's life imprisonment ! Obammy putting all unemployed to work gathering up any stones under two pounds. Anyone caught with a sledge hammer pounding, making little ones out of big ones will be forced into Demoturd 'reeducation camps', run by his million boy/man army of ghetto hoods, with AK-47s ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 12/27/2012 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh please. The right to wear fire-weapons is a relict from the Wildwest times. But, NEWSFLASH for you guntards: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30949461 Wildwest times are over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In most parts of the world people have no right to own fire-weapons, simply because it's crazy and sick to give any idiot a gun ... the consequences of such an ancient wildwest right in modern times can be seen in USA with it's crazy much murders. Get over it: It's clear that you defend this right as much as you can, but you can't avoid what will happen earlier or later: That this right will be countermanded! That's for sure like the Amen in the church. btw: I think guntards have small penises and need guns to compensate their inferiority complexes. Yeh, okay. We all know what happened after gun control in Germany. Still, 30 out of 100 people in Germany own a gun, ranking 4th in the world. That's a lot of small penises, huh? Not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 12/27/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice the wording allows grandfathering, except that you will have to register all grandfathered weapons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 It's time to stand up and say NO. and being that they'd be required to be NFA registered you will have to pay a $200 tax per firearm. you will also NEVER be allowed to transfer. Meaning, you keep it til you die. When you die it must be turned over to authorities for destruction. They will rid the USA of guns by attrition in this manner. That's a good point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8398786 United States 12/27/2012 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh please. The right to wear fire-weapons is a relict from the Wildwest times. But, NEWSFLASH for you guntards: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30949461 Wildwest times are over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In most parts of the world people have no right to own fire-weapons, simply because it's crazy and sick to give any idiot a gun ... the consequences of such an ancient wildwest right in modern times can be seen in USA with it's crazy much murders. Get over it: It's clear that you defend this right as much as you can, but you can't avoid what will happen earlier or later: That this right will be countermanded! That's for sure like the Amen in the church. btw: I think guntards have small penises and need guns to compensate their inferiority complexes. folk off nazi |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States 12/27/2012 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol Quoting: Mehdi 17601732 Peace be upon you. Ignorant. This will have no bearing on criminals, the killers. It will only effect innocent, responsible people, the defenders against the criminals. the 2 main gun problems in this country are: 1) ghetto gangstas 2 and right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards Lol, spoken like a true libtard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States 12/27/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About time. You have had these things for far too long. How will you be able to kill without them? lol Quoting: Mehdi 17601732 Peace be upon you. your assholes seem to do a great job murdering people with their feet, with broken bottles and with rocks the only difference is people can't defend themselves yeah, way to go please explain to me how eliminating honest people's self defense against insane feral mobs is better? ... Hey there IX! After reading numerous posts by the British and Australians, I've come to the conclusion that they are hopelessly stupid. They do not comprehend logic, and are impervious to the most obvious facts and statistics. I believe with all my heart that the British government did the right thing by taking their firearms. My hat goes off to the noble governments of Australia and Britain for having the common sense to realize that their populace was too stupid to own weapons of any kind. Even their doctors understand that the British public can not be trusted with mere kitchen knives. I think that, in these two unique incidents, the governments of Britain and Australia did the right thing by disarming their citizens. The British and Australia governments didn't take any of their firearms. The truth is... The British and Australia gun owners got scared, then they pee'ed and pooped in their pants and handed their firearms over to the British and Australia governments. Hey GooseBob, Let's put this in terms that you might be able to understand. Suppose the point of my post was in Dallas, Texas. Now where are you? You're in Alberta, Canada. I suppose that won't make much sense to you either. |
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ladyannie2009 User ID: 29734708 United States 12/27/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | although it's been stated many, many times here.... most people realize that gang-bangers do not comply with registration requirements. I mean....come on....it's one of those 'duh' opinions to think that bans/restrictions will somehow lower crime rates. some of these statistics are older, but I didn't want to edit them out.... (bias) lots more information at link: [link to www.justfacts.com] <snip> Crime and Self-Defense * Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.[11] * A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[12] * Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16] * Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18] * A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19] * A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21] • 34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim" • 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun" • 69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22] Vulnerability to Violent Crime * At the current homicide rate, roughly one in every 240 Americans will be murdered.[23] * A U.S. Justice Department study based on crime data from 1974-1985 found: • 42% of Americans will be the victim of a completed violent crime (assault, robbery, rape) in the course of their lives • 83% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime • 52% of Americans will be the victim of an attempted or completed violent crime more than once[24] * A 1997 survey of more than 18,000 prison inmates found that among those serving time for a violent crime, "30% of State offenders and 35% of Federal offenders carried a firearm when committing the crime."[25] Criminal Justice System * Nationwide in 2008, law enforcement agencies reported that 55% of aggravated assaults, 27% of robberies, 40% of rapes, and 64% of murders that were reported to police resulted in an alleged offender being arrested and turned over for prosecution.[26] [27] * Currently, for every 12 aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders committed in the United States, approximately one person is sentenced to prison for committing such a crime.[28] [29] [30] * A 2002 U.S. Justice Department study of 272,111 felons released from state prisons in 1994 found that within three years of their release: • at least 67.5% had been arrested for committing a new offense • at least 21.6% had been arrested for committing a new violent offense • these former inmates had been charged with committing at least 2,871 new homicides, 2,444 new rapes, 3,151 other new sexual assaults, 2,362 new kidnappings, 21,245 new robberies, 54,604 new assaults, and 13,854 other new violent crimes[31] * Of 1,662 murders committed in New York City during 2003-2005, more than 90% were committed by people with criminal records.[32] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
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