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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513486  United States01/21/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. so much for being affordable healthcare... |
tiger1 (OP) User ID: 6269153 United States01/21/2013 10:40 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. Yeah,,,,,,,you have to sign it to find out what is in it Pelosi said and they did just that. Obocare is inclusive for the extermination of the elderly. Yea obocare......medical care for all.......all that they deem worthy to live and for the rest of you/us.......toO fucking bad. Just wait! All those that voted him back in for another four years are going to be cursing him and his care thing before it is over. Just wait to see how much love they have for him in the next unfolding months to come. Just remember .....all of you that just love him and think he is god........ in the coming months you WILL change your mind and that then will be the hope of YOUR CHANGE AS PROMISED. YOU ASKED FOR IT! YOU WANTED IT!! AND NOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT! HOPE YOU LIKE ALL THAT "HOPE AND CHANGE". YOU BEGGED FOR YOU! YOU CRIED FOR IT! YOU SWOONED FOR IT! AND NOW YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE IT AS IT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF YOUR LOVED ONES! I never voted for the pos in D.C. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
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| Saddletramp User ID: 736749  Puerto Rico01/21/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the Republicans had vowed to gut this Obama care crap. Whatever happened to that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333 They lost... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Saddletramp User ID: 736749 Puerto Rico01/21/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. Yeah because anything government takes over automatically becomes so much more effiecient and cost effective... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32538141 United States01/21/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am tired of paying for people who didn't take care of their bodies when they were young and treated them like dumpsters and now are high maintenance health care and depend on tax payers to live i work out almost everyday and watch my diet i am healthy and plan to never be a burden to anyone for if i ever do become one ; it is time to take the journey |
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| Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States01/21/2013 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should have seen the look on my 68 year old sister-in-law's face when she learned that there are indeed Sarah Palin's "death panels" in her healthcare future. And being the leftist obama supporter she is... the moment was priceless! I don't feel sorry for her a bit, and I told her as much. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32538141 United States01/21/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I use to work in health care and have witnessed all sides of this health care argument. i have seen 400 pound men too lazy and fat due to over eating urinate on their own and think health care was some slave given to them to assist them doing things in a bathroom that they should have been able to do by themselves but too fat to do due to their own due to gluttony.... why should tax payers pay for this service? i have no problem helping someone for a short while lose weight by teaching them good eating methods and how to get off the couch and work out but this is not what health care is suppose to be and has disintegrated in many respects over many years... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32783023 United States01/22/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the Republicans had vowed to gut this Obama care crap. Whatever happened to that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333 they decided to back romney who invented this disaster. apparently america decided the "lesser of the two evils" was obama. insurance companies definitely hedged their bet with the romney fiasco. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13166822 United States01/22/2013 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know how much people are going to be charged that do not have insurance? When this "tax" kicks in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26447781 I have been wondering if all the bums on public assistance are going to have to pay also, or are they going to get a free pass on that too? Of course they will get a free pass silly boy. Why the fuck else do you think everyone else's premiums are going up? Derp |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25898128 United States01/22/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am tired of paying for people who didn't take care of their bodies when they were young and treated them like dumpsters Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141 and now are high maintenance health care and depend on tax payers to live i work out almost everyday and watch my diet i am healthy and plan to never be a burden to anyone for if i ever do become one ; it is time to take the journey you have to be a troll, no other explanation. |
| Requiemdream (Ghost) User ID: 32495279 United States01/22/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 52 yo brother who is on medicaid had a heart attack in December. They put a stent in and told him they would give him a month to rest, but that he would need to come back in a month for either a bypass or at least 3 stents. He followed up with the doc who is now telling im (after January) that the meds should take care of the blockages! He isn't even on a statin! I am afraid for his life since he has at least three major blockages. This has to be Obama care crap. I mean, in December he was in the hospital and it was urgent that he have surgery in 1 month now it's meds and walking? I have NEVER heard of that! It's like they are trying to kill him! Perpetually dumbfounded. “I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more." C.S. Lewis “Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.” Tim Minchin |
| The Right Policy User ID: 18855014 United States01/22/2013 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats own this as not ONE Rebuplican voted for Zerocare. If you voted for Zero a second time, or didn't vote, you deserve what comes next. The Right Policy is Always Conservative "The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President." - Vaclav Klaus |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31759711 United States01/22/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. Why can't she live with family? That is how it use to be long ago. Family took care of its own. Family should take care of its own. Can any of you take her into your homes? That is what I am my siblings are preparing to do. Don't expect the government to take care of what is your responsibility. I know it is harsh but it is reality. I am right there with you as are many others who have parent/s to take care of. I know. But it is also about how are we going to deal with what is our future. And unfortunately people like your mom and mine are going to have to deal with having to live with family in order to be taken care of or not being taken care of at all. There is no room for stubborn anymore. Things are going to change and we have to make the best of it. Our paychecks are less now because of more taxes. I can moan about it or can figure out what to do. And yes I did moan and now I have to fix the budget. Your mom is going to have to get real about what life she has left. What do you mean by "they have to deal with it or not be taken care of at all"? Diseases like Altzheimer's and Dementia are on the rise. People live many years with those illnesses but need 24/7 care. Do you assume that it's right that the healthy and younger people give up their careers, stop making any income and become unpaid caregivers of their sick relatives? What kind of health care system would that be in a so called advanced society. Have you ever seen the statistics about impact on the caregiver? They develop heart disease and many other chronic deadly illnesses from caregiver stress taking care of family members and sometimes die before the person they cared for. That has nothing to do with "no more room for stubborn". Caring for seriously ill and demented people and there will be many is such a burden on the family, that it will create a nation of sick people and they will have no one to care for them just as you said "not be taken care of at all." What does that mean. They will just be left to die miserably? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13166822 United States01/22/2013 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. so much for being affordable healthcare... Quit yer bitchin and pay up for those entitlement gov't tit suckers. They don't have enough yet and Obama believes you DO have enough and he needs to redistribute that...and...he won! Seriously though, I am laughing my freaking ass off at whomever voted for this idiot thinking he would lower their health care costs. That is just the funniest thing to me. Of course the fees are going up, you have to pay for the entitlement crowd to get the same level of health care as yourself! Derp |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32538141 United States01/22/2013 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'health care' in this type of society we live today needs to be re defined. what is 'health care'? what does it encompass?? what does or does it not include? with the current costs this makes too much sense tho and will never be done |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13166822 United States01/22/2013 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one paid attention and did their homework, none of this should be a surprise... but the gullible and naive have once again been taken for a ride. Quoting: Dr. Lecter You should have seen the look on my 68 year old sister-in-law's face when she learned that there are indeed Sarah Palin's "death panels" in her healthcare future. And being the leftist obama supporter she is... the moment was priceless! I don't feel sorry for her a bit, and I told her as much. That's so hilarious! Yep, if anyone did the research instead of just listening to talking heads that get paid to sway public opinion in any fashion their corporate masters dictate this was all out there. Best so far for me was speaking to a co-worker who was an Obama voter looking for health care relief I had found the expected cost differences for her family pre and post Obama care and she refused to take a look at them! Ahahaha....ahahahaha!!!!!!! This is what you voted for. Own it! Look your Mothers and Fathers Daughters and Sons in the eye when their needed and critical care gets cut and tell them you voted for it. Own it bitchez. Own it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13166822 United States01/22/2013 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If one paid attention and did their homework, none of this should be a surprise... but the gullible and naive have once again been taken for a ride. Quoting: Dr. Lecter You should have seen the look on my 68 year old sister-in-law's face when she learned that there are indeed Sarah Palin's "death panels" in her healthcare future. And being the leftist obama supporter she is... the moment was priceless! I don't feel sorry for her a bit, and I told her as much. That's so hilarious! Yep, if anyone did the research instead of just listening to talking heads that get paid to sway public opinion in any fashion their corporate masters dictate this was all out there. Best so far for me was speaking to a co-worker who was an Obama voter looking for health care relief I had found the expected cost differences for her family pre and post Obama care and she refused to take a look at them! Ahahaha....ahahahaha!!!!!!! This is what you voted for. Own it! Look your Mothers and Fathers Daughters and Sons in the eye when their needed and critical care gets cut and tell them you voted for it. Own it bitchez. Own it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32538141 United States01/22/2013 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. so much for being affordable healthcare... Quit yer bitchin and pay up for those entitlement gov't tit suckers. They don't have enough yet and Obama believes you DO have enough and he needs to redistribute that...and...he won! Seriously though, I am laughing my freaking ass off at whomever voted for this idiot thinking he would lower their health care costs. That is just the funniest thing to me. Of course the fees are going up, you have to pay for the entitlement crowd to get the same level of health care as yourself! Derp once the entitlement crowd gets done with it there will be not much left for the future crowds the entitlement crowds are some of the sickest on earth |
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| abeliever Members User ID: 17868616 United States01/22/2013 12:46 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother,who has congestive heart failure, and is on oxygen, as of January 1st no longer has a nurse come and check on her once a week, due to the Medicare cuts. As of August 1st of 2012, when the first round of cuts came, her once a week Physical Therapist was totally cut, her nurse was cut to 1 day a week from 2 days, and her CNA was cut from 2 hours twice a week, to 1 hour once a week. She was told that the CNA might be totally cut too. She still lives in her own home, by herself, sparing the taxpayers the cost of nursing home care. IF she would go into a nursing home, the money available from the liquidation of the few assetts would be gone in a few months, and then Medicaid would pick up the tab. Quoting: tiger1 My older brother was notified by mail on saturday, that the medical insurance premium for his school age son has gone up from $100 a month to $750 a month. That's right, a 650% INCREASE !!! My brother, who was forced to retire early a year and a half ago, was covering my nephew on his work policy. He cancelled the medical insurance, as the increased premium eats up nearly his whole pension check. He called for an explanation, and was told EVERYONE got an increase, whether a retired employee or one that is still employed. Obamacare has done nothing to help the health care crisis in our country. Instead, it has made health care totally unaffordable, and the rationing of care has begun. so much for being affordable healthcare... Quit yer bitchin and pay up for those entitlement gov't tit suckers. They don't have enough yet and Obama believes you DO have enough and he needs to redistribute that...and...he won! Seriously though, I am laughing my freaking ass off at whomever voted for this idiot thinking he would lower their health care costs. That is just the funniest thing to me. Of course the fees are going up, you have to pay for the entitlement crowd to get the same level of health care as yourself! Derp This. |
| mrmuffins69 User ID: 3378512 United States01/22/2013 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sorry OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32751882 The fucks who voted for Obama are complicit in the homicide of your mother, millions of unborn children, and the millions of other victims to come of Obamacare. I can only hope they die slowly and terrified to partially pay the karmic debt they have incurred by supporting Obama.  they need to be woken up not killed you loon  |
| ann User ID: 27626673 United States01/22/2013 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only people who are wealthy will pay higher taxes, over $250,000 a year. Also, the elderly paid into social security, and deserve their checks, and their medical. Also, what about poor people who have life-threatening conditions, are they just supposed to be left to die? So if they have no family that can afford their bills, they should just drop dead, right? What if someone finds out they have some life-threatening disease, and doesn't have insurance? It would be a pre-existing condition, so they would not be able to get it. Let's say they could come up with enough money for a few doctor's visits. How about treatments, and tests? Guess since they didn't have insurance BEFORE they got sick, then that is their fault, right? That's their punishment for not being able to afford insurance I guess. Just take the punishment for not being wealthy, and lay down and wait to die. People just don't care. Why doesn't anyone think they will never be in a tough spot someday? You don't ever expect that you will be down and out? If you get deathly ill someday, and you are down and out, do you want to be left to die? The republicans are the ones who want to cut everything the elderly gets. And they sure as heck don't want poor young people to have any care either. They would rather just kill all the poor people and be done with it, if the truth was known. No one ever thinks that they will be in a bad position some day. And anyone who thinks all poor people are alcoholics are drug addicts is crazy. Yes, there are plenty of them out there, but not everyone is that way. It makes me sad just how uncaring the world is. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32538141 United States01/22/2013 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only people who are wealthy will pay higher taxes, over $250,000 a year. Also, the elderly paid into social security, and deserve their checks, and their medical. Quoting: ann 27626673 Also, what about poor people who have life-threatening conditions, are they just supposed to be left to die? So if they have no family that can afford their bills, they should just drop dead, right? What if someone finds out they have some life-threatening disease, and doesn't have insurance? It would be a pre-existing condition, so they would not be able to get it. Let's say they could come up with enough money for a few doctor's visits. How about treatments, and tests? Guess since they didn't have insurance BEFORE they got sick, then that is their fault, right? That's their punishment for not being able to afford insurance I guess. Just take the punishment for not being wealthy, and lay down and wait to die. People just don't care. Why doesn't anyone think they will never be in a tough spot someday? You don't ever expect that you will be down and out? If you get deathly ill someday, and you are down and out, do you want to be left to die? The republicans are the ones who want to cut everything the elderly gets. And they sure as heck don't want poor young people to have any care either. They would rather just kill all the poor people and be done with it, if the truth was known. No one ever thinks that they will be in a bad position some day. And anyone who thinks all poor people are alcoholics are drug addicts is crazy. Yes, there are plenty of them out there, but not everyone is that way. It makes me sad just how uncaring the world is. socialized medicine would take care of those highlighted but it is a dirty word in this country and will never be utilized because some can't make a lot of money off the sick using a socialized medicine plan like they can now... |
