The storms continue to UK!!!

this is a mess to several countries... [link to www.ecmwf.int]

Jason ‏@mcr_thfc

@MattHugo81 just started here between Leigh n manchester

9 minMike Pye‏@pastieman69

@MattHugo81 started snowing heavily in South Lakes now.

Matthew Hugo‏@MattHugo81

Hmmm well then they are intense radar returns!... #lancashire #greatermanchester heavy snow on the way. [link to twitter.com]

What planet do you live on...? They are naming storms now so the insurance companies don"t have to pay idiot. That started last year fool.

Government assisitance. Ya right. Talk to anybody that went through Sandy.

Tear down your homes or else we will fine you 5000 a day. Thats help alright. Shitting in the hallways and dumpster diving and cold cold cold tents to sleep in. Ya thats help that I would want.

No power for months. Shall I continue. Fucking American looser don't even have a clue what really happens in your own country to your own people and by your own insurance companies.

Please stay calm...

Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 04:05 PM GMT em 25 de Janeiro de 2013

The January 2013 North American cold wave is winding down, after bringing five days of bitter cold to Canada and the Midwest and Northeast U.S. In the U.S., below-zero temperatures were recorded Friday morning in just six states east of the Rockies--half as many as on Thursday morning. The coldest spot was Saranac Lake in New York's Adirondack Mountains, which bottomed out at -18°F (-28°). In nearby Malone, NY, flooding is occurring, thanks to an ice jam on the Salmon River caused by this week's cold weather. The weather was a bit warmer on Mt. Washington, New Hampshire today, where the temperature of -17°F (-27°C) combined with a wind of 81 mph to create a wind chill of -61°F (-52°C). The most dangerous winter weather today will be due to the Wrath of Khan--a low pressure system traversing Tennessee and Kentucky has been named Winter Storm Kahn by TWC, and will bring as much as 0.5" of ice accumulation from eastern Tennessee and Kentucky through North Carolina and northern South Carolina, potentially causing major power outages. Snow will impact areas from the Ohio Valley through western Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Virginia, with 1" expected in D.C. and 1 - 3" in Baltimore.

Figure 1. A powerful extratropical storm with a central pressure of 984 mb begins to wind up about 500 miles east of Newfoundland, Canada, at 10 am EST January 25, 2013.

How low will it go? Massive Atlantic storm winding up
In the Northern Atlantic, an extratropical storm that brought up to 6" of snow to Maryland on Thursday is rapidly intensifying about 500 miles east of Newfoundland, Canada, and figures to become one of the most intense storms ever observed in the North Atlantic. This meteorological "bomb" was analyzed with a central pressure of 984 mb at 12Z (7 am EST) Friday morning by NOAA's Ocean Prediction Center; the GFS and ECMWF models both predict that the storm will deepen by 60 mb in 24 hours, reaching a central pressure of 924 - 928 mb by 7 am EST Saturday morning. This is the central pressure one commonly sees in Category 4 hurricanes, and is a very rare intensity for an extratropical storm to attain. Since extratropical storms do not form eyewalls, the winds of the massive Atlantic low are predicted to peak at 90 mph (Category 1 hurricane strength), with significant wave heights reaching 52 feet (16 meters.) Fortunately, the storm is expected to weaken dramatically before reaching any land areas, and will only be a concern to shipping. The intensification process will be aided by the strong contrast between the frigid Arctic air flowing off the coast of Canada from this week's cold blast, and the warm air lying over the warm waters of the Gulf Stream current. The ultimate strength of the storm will depend upon where the center tracks in relation to several warm eddies of the Gulf Stream along its path. According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt's post on Super Extratropical Storms, the all-time record lowest pressure for a North Atlantic extratropical storm is 913 mb, set on January 11, 1993, near Scotland's Shetland Islands. The mighty 1993 storm broke apart the super oil tanker Braer on a rocky shoal in the Shetland Islands, causing a massive oil spill.

Other notable Atlantic extratropical storms, as catalogued by British weather historian, Stephen Burt:

920.2 mb (27.17”) measured by the ship Uyir while she sailed southeast of Greenland on December 15, 1986. The British Met. Office calculated that the central pressure of the storm, which was centered some distance southeast of the ship, was 916 mb (27.05”).

921.1 mb (27.20”) on Feb. 5, 1870 measured by the ship Neier at 49°N 26°W (another ship in the area measured 925.5 mb)

924 mb (27.28”) on Feb. 4, 1824 at Reykjavik, Iceland (the lowest on land measured pressure in the North Atlantic)

925.5 mb (27.33”) on Dec. 4, 1929 by the SS Westpool somewhere in the Atlantic (exact location unknown)

925.6 mb (27.33”) on Jan. 26, 1884 at Ochtertyre, Perthshire, U.K. (the lowest pressure recorded on land in the U.K.)

For comparison’s sake, the lowest pressure measured on land during an extra-tropical storm in the United States (aside from Alaska) was 952 mb 28.10” at Bridgehampton, New York (Long Island) on March 1 during, the Great Billy Sunday Snowstorm.

Figure 2. Infrared satellite image of the North Atlantic Storm of January 11, 1993 at 0600Z when it deepened into the strongest extra-tropical cyclone ever observed on earth, with a central pressure of 913 mb (26.96”). Satellite image from EUMETSAT Meteosat-4.
Jeff Masters [link to www.wunderground.com]

The Braer Storm of January 1993 is the most intense extratropical cyclone on record for the northern Atlantic ocean. Developing as a weak frontal wave on January 8, 1993, the system moved rapidly northeast developing at a moderate pace. The combination of the absorption of a second low-pressure area to its southeast, a stronger than normal sea surface temperature differential along its path, and the presence of a strong jet stream aloft led to a rapid strengthening of the storm, with its central pressure falling to an estimated 914.0 mb (26.99 inHg) on January 10. Its strength was well predicted by forecasters in the United Kingdom, and warnings were issued before the low initially developed.
Winds of gale-force covered the far northern Atlantic between western Europe and Atlantic Canada due to this storm, with hurricane-force winds confined near its center of circulation. After reaching its peak intensity, the system weakened as it moved into the far northeast Atlantic, dissipating by January 17. This storm caused blizzards across much of Scotland and led to the final breakup of the oil tanker MV Braer, which had been stranded in rocks off the Shetland Islands by a previous storm nearly a week beforehand.
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Record set

This cyclone was slightly stronger than an intense low pressure area which moved near Greenland on December 14-15, 1986, which was the strongest extratropical cyclone known to occur across the northern Atlantic ocean at that time.

Only three prior extratropical storms across the north Atlantic,[3] and one since,[8] have attained central pressures below 930 millibars (27 inHg). [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

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OMG

Safecote Limited‏@Safecote

#Blizzard conditions on the #M60 right now in #Manchester - please take care out there #GK5SnowPloughBlades

Until Frankie says there's going to be a problem I think you all are worrying for nothing.

....`they asked an 'environmental expert'.....I just snorted tea out of my nose....

we've got a couple of acres still covered in out in Essex.....need help quick....bring bobble hats.....

last saturday gong ciclone in Portugal

Oh ffs, not more bloody rain; it hasn't stopped here all day as it is.....I'm sure that I'm shrinking!

If it weakens dramatically (as it says in your post below) does that mean we in the UK will not be facing hurricane conditions after all?

I must say, we often see weather warning for gales, even severe gales. This is quite common. But your posts suggest something far worse. In your opinion, will it get much worse than gales/severe gales for the UK? Are we looking at hurricane force winds or not?

Thanks for your dedicated and informative posts on the weather!

six pages about winter weather, louis, I thought it was us brits who are known for weather small talk.

P.s I'm off to dig some bait on the beach,after a good sea, the fish are always hungry.

this huge storms loose much of power when they reach land... but in this case i don't know if it's suposed Jolle storm to reach land or stay offshore

I know where my money is but wont spoil the fun, eh

I'm not a weather expert, but I don't think these giant storms are natural. Isn't hurricane season over already?
I thought warm ocean water was needed for this?

Hurricane Sandy had a forecast track that was too accurate, too far in advance, while still over Cuba. I think this is HAARP.

Lots of trees came down here, including a 70 foot oak in the backyard. If you have big trees over there, think it over where to sleep if you're not evacuating (upstairs NG).

Top off your vehicles with gas or petrol. I'm praying for you.

I get all my real news here now. Great thread, thanks AC****1733 for that wave map!

i don't have any fun for be right...

Pale Horse, what do you mean by 'NG'?



Lots of trees came down here, including a 70 foot oak in the backyard. If you have big trees over there, think it over where to sleep if you're not evacuating (upstairs NG).

luis..get one thing into your head.. the brits love bad weather.
I work outside on the east coast, most easterly point,sometimes it's windy, sometimes it's rainy. hell, sometimes it's sunny.
It does not matter, we whine, and get on with it.

A typical greeting conversation.

'fak me, it's cold,'... 'yeah, freeze the balls off a brass monkey'...'lol'.
That's why England is a green and pleasant land, as the song goes.
Bring it on! gotta kite?

Thanks for the info. I've understood this as meaning, that just because it loses a lot of power when it hits land, doesn't mean it still can't be a hurricane. I think I understood right?

Pale Horse, what do you mean by 'NG'?



No good/not good.