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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32833869 United Kingdom 02/02/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can we build a computer that simulates the brain when we don't fully understand how the brain works? Quoting: Sir France's Beercan For the most part we do understand how a brain works. Once the simulation starts thinking for itself it will tell us the rest... Or maybe destroy us... Even though we still have NO idea how/where memories are stored. Scientists always think they just about (99%) understand things, when this is rarely the case. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 33504825 Germany 02/02/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though we still have NO idea how/where memories are stored. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32833869 Scientists always think they just about (99%) understand things, when this is rarely the case. Memories reside in specific brain cells. [link to web.mit.edu] The simulation is as good as its code so all of this has to be factored in. |
RI McGuillicutty User ID: 32853457 United States 02/02/2013 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...Seems legit. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 33504825 Germany 02/02/2013 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since every communication by every person on the internet is recorded, I wonder what would happen if all this information were put into this brain simulation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491 That's a very intriguing thought. Since people get along so well on the internet they should definitely try that... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21974491 United States 02/02/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since every communication by every person on the internet is recorded, I wonder what would happen if all this information were put into this brain simulation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491 That's a very intriguing thought. Since people get along so well on the internet they should definitely try that... I think that a simulation like this, once perfected, could "learn" to speak like anyone on the internet. If they plugged this thing into your best friend's facebook or twitter, you'd never know it wasn't your friend. The controller of the simulation could have your apparent friend favor certain viewpoints and try to influence you. Or could be used as a spy against you. Who knows what deviltry they'll come up with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33272985 United States 02/02/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think this is going to be a self-aware thing. More likely it will simulate how the brain works in order to understand disease and functioning, but it can't actually function like a human brain. Think of it like those real doll sex dolls - they may "simulate" real women, but they don't function or have the capabilities of real women. Chip-based artificial intelligence will have to work very differently from the human brain because the hardware they use is so fundamentally different. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32833869 United Kingdom 02/02/2013 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though we still have NO idea how/where memories are stored. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32833869 Scientists always think they just about (99%) understand things, when this is rarely the case. Memories reside in specific brain cells. [link to web.mit.edu] The simulation is as good as its code so all of this has to be factored in. That is an intersting paper & they may be onto something, but have you read it? it is far from conculsive proof. |
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Sir France's Beercan User ID: 1245590 Austria 02/02/2013 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since every communication by every person on the internet is recorded, I wonder what would happen if all this information were put into this brain simulation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491 That's a very intriguing thought. Since people get along so well on the internet they should definitely try that... Interesting indeed. I would venture this idea further and suggest this has already been done and we are merely experiencing perceived consciousness, living within a simulation of every communication and thought run by a super computer, which in itself is a super computer just existing within a simulation of the brain run by a super computer... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 33504825 Germany 02/02/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since every communication by every person on the internet is recorded, I wonder what would happen if all this information were put into this brain simulation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21974491 That's a very intriguing thought. Since people get along so well on the internet they should definitely try that... Interesting indeed. I would venture this idea further and suggest this has already been done and we are merely experiencing perceived consciousness, living within a simulation of every communication and thought run by a super computer, which in itself is a super computer just existing within a simulation of the brain run by a super computer... You're onto it. Check this out. Thread: Computer Code Discovered Concealed In Superstring Equations |
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phizzycyst User ID: 845802 United States 02/02/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can we build a computer that simulates the brain when we don't fully understand how the brain works? Quoting: Sir France's Beercan For the most part we do understand how a brain works. Once the simulation starts thinking for itself it will tell us the rest... Or maybe destroy us... Even though we still have NO idea how/where memories are stored. Scientists always think they just about (99%) understand things, when this is rarely the case. Science knows so little about the nature of the universe it's amazing we as a species has survived this long - stumbling along in the dark. Computers run on code, computers can take action using algorithms and programed choices - they can't nor won't 'think' for themselves. If computers ever destroy mankind, it will be because the programmers included those options. |
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