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SilentlyKnowing User ID: 27028191 United States 02/05/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've had cats for more than 30 years--so I've had a little experience. Hope this helps: You don't mention if you have other pets--like dogs or multiple cat household? Sometimes over-crowding where each cat doesn't feel he has control of his own area can contribute to both of these things-- vets call it a STRESS reaction. There are home atomizers you can purchase that can dispense a pheramone that calms a cat--that might be a solution, but not long-term. Every cat is different, like people, they have their own quirks. You guy sounds especially sensitive--you just have to figure out where his stress is coming from. If you are near the LA sinkhole or an active earthquake area, the cause may be methane gas or vibration. That's all I have. My sympathies as this can be very upsetting to your household. Don't give up--you'll figure it out! Good luck! SK |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18401048 United States 02/05/2013 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've had cats for more than 30 years--so I've had Quoting: SilentlyKnowing a little experience. Hope this helps: You don't mention if you have other pets--like dogs or multiple cat household? Sometimes over-crowding where each cat doesn't feel he has control of his own area can contribute to both of these things-- vets call it a STRESS reaction. There are home atomizers you can purchase that can dispense a pheramone that calms a cat--that might be a solution, but not long-term. Every cat is different, like people, they have their own quirks. You guy sounds especially sensitive--you just have to figure out where his stress is coming from. If you are near the LA sinkhole or an active earthquake area, the cause may be methane gas or vibration. That's all I have. My sympathies as this can be very upsetting to your household. Don't give up--you'll figure it out! Good luck! SK :kittyIcouldPEEon: we have 2 cats and one dog. the dog was introduced as a puppy about 2 years ago but all of these issues were present before then. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4545733 United States 02/05/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely this cat has been neutered, right? A male cat is almost impossible to prevent marking unless he is "fixed". Does he have long hair? If so, frequent brushing is a big help in preventing the 'hair balls' that cause vomiting. Male cats can be so loving and bonded with their owner. They can also feel left out if ignored and not included in cuddling. Refusing the use a clean litter box is a symptom of something that you haven't recognized as of yet. Keep looking for an answer, or purchase a large cat cage with different levels and keep him there when you are not able to supervise his activities. It's not as cruel as some think. It could contribute calm to your household and also for the animal itself. Good luck. I love pets of all kinds, and some have special needs where others don't. . |
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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 02/05/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | www.curezone.com www.earthclinic.com My thought is to get some good probiotics for him; whatever his problem is has messed up his digestive system. Keep looking for answers. For calming him, pet stores sell natural herbal stuff to put in drinking water. Also check out this site--you can play samples on your computer and set it to replay if you don't want to buy it. www.musicbymarcey.com The CD "Inward Harmony" from this site is great for calming my animals. They love it and always come to the same room where it is playing and lie down for a nap. Try a different vet! Some of them are great and some aren't worth crap. Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 02/05/2013 09:57 AM "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1561325 United States 02/05/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it urine or feces that ends up on the floor and not in the litter box? Is the same space(s) tend to be used over and over or does he seek out fresh, un-dirtied spots? If he urinates out of the box, are you sure it's always urine or is it spray? Is he fixed? If so, were his nuts nicked before or after he began spraying territory? Do you allow him food available whenever he needs it? I've had to advise many cat owners in the past that this is not something you can do with all kitties - especially males it seems. Girly cats seem to manage OK with the 'never-ending' food bowl. Guess one could say in the feline world, it is the boys who are predisposed to binging and purging. But I suppose a structured, limited feeding schedule would be ones of those things in a book that you've tried. Need lots more info to be able to help, though. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18401048 United States 02/05/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely this cat has been neutered, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733 A male cat is almost impossible to prevent marking unless he is "fixed". Does he have long hair? If so, frequent brushing is a big help in preventing the 'hair balls' that cause vomiting. Male cats can be so loving and bonded with their owner. They can also feel left out if ignored and not included in cuddling. Refusing the use a clean litter box is a symptom of something that you haven't recognized as of yet. Keep looking for an answer, or purchase a large cat cage with different levels and keep him there when you are not able to supervise his activities. It's not as cruel as some think. It could contribute calm to your household and also for the animal itself. Good luck. I love pets of all kinds, and some have special needs where others don't. . yes he is neutered and isnt a long hair cat. the puking isnt hair balls. he does that as a cat normally would. the puking is him vomiting back up his food. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1561325 United States 02/05/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was the cat declawed? If so, the litter that you use could be hurting his paws and you need a finer litter. Quoting: Melton Mowbray Declawing of a cat gives them emotional grounds to make your life a living hell for as long as they live. If you were a cat and the person who took you in decided to cut off all of your fingers from the first knuckle to the tip, nail and all - because you were being nice and keeping your claws trimmed on the material shit around the house to avoid putting marks in living flesh while you knead and love your keepers - you might be upset for a long time too. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18401048 United States 02/05/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it urine or feces that ends up on the floor and not in the litter box? Is the same space(s) tend to be used over and over or does he seek out fresh, un-dirtied spots? Quoting: Deaf Cat in the Blue Hat If he urinates out of the box, are you sure it's always urine or is it spray? Is he fixed? If so, were his nuts nicked before or after he began spraying territory? Do you allow him food available whenever he needs it? I've had to advise many cat owners in the past that this is not something you can do with all kitties - especially males it seems. Girly cats seem to manage OK with the 'never-ending' food bowl. Guess one could say in the feline world, it is the boys who are predisposed to binging and purging. But I suppose a structured, limited feeding schedule would be ones of those things in a book that you've tried. Need lots more info to be able to help, though. urine and feces outside of the litter box and generally in the same areas but not always. he was neutered as a kitten. we've attemped food being available all day and set feeding times, neither seemed to make a difference. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1561325 United States 02/05/2013 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was the cat declawed? If so, the litter that you use could be hurting his paws and you need a finer litter. Quoting: Melton Mowbray front claws were declawed. we have tried multiple brands and types of litter Try a paper shredder and a newspaper subscription. Cheaper than litter, too. |
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Son of PC User ID: 33127834 United States 02/05/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try giving lactose free milk with dry food. Helps with the digestion. Also, some cooked chicken is nice to feed. It's greasy enough to help stuff pass. None of my cats have a vomiting problem. Sure, lactose free milk isn't cheap but neither is most quality cat food or vet visits. Try the milk, it works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33728264 United States 02/05/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was the cat declawed? If so, the litter that you use could be hurting his paws and you need a finer litter. Quoting: Melton Mowbray front claws were declawed. we have tried multiple brands and types of litter Swheat Scoop Natural was the one we always had the most luck with when we were fostering cats for the Humane Society. Its very soft. Its also wheat, which is why we no longer use it. Feliway can really help. Valium? Oh crap, I just read about the "fat sack". Let me go find the FIP video...there is fat, and there is third spacing fluid, FIP is very difficult to dx... [link to www.merckvetmanual.com] Do you have a pic of said cat? Esp. the belly section? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18401048 United States 02/05/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was the cat declawed? If so, the litter that you use could be hurting his paws and you need a finer litter. Quoting: Melton Mowbray front claws were declawed. we have tried multiple brands and types of litter Swheat Scoop Natural was the one we always had the most luck with when we were fostering cats for the Humane Society. Its very soft. Its also wheat, which is why we no longer use it. Feliway can really help. Valium? we have done valium and it seemed to help for a while |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18980210 United States 02/05/2013 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my fiance has a black male cat that is about 4 years old, we can never consistently get him to use the litter box and he pukes all over the house several times a week. Quoting: Oyster This has been going on for pretty much his whole adult life and we have tried everything. He's been to the vet a few times for these issues and has been given medication, didnt work. Tried every type of food suggested, didnt work. Elevated food and water dishes, didnt work. Slowed down the speed at which he eats, didnt work. Put out several little boxes, didnt work. Tried the confinement routine on litter box traning, didnt work. If it is in a book we've tried it. Help me out GLP! Have you checked him for urinary/kidney stones or infection? Tumors? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18401048 United States 02/05/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So my fiance has a black male cat that is about 4 years old, we can never consistently get him to use the litter box and he pukes all over the house several times a week. Quoting: Oyster This has been going on for pretty much his whole adult life and we have tried everything. He's been to the vet a few times for these issues and has been given medication, didnt work. Tried every type of food suggested, didnt work. Elevated food and water dishes, didnt work. Slowed down the speed at which he eats, didnt work. Put out several little boxes, didnt work. Tried the confinement routine on litter box traning, didnt work. If it is in a book we've tried it. Help me out GLP! Have you checked him for urinary/kidney stones or infection? Tumors? everything but the tumors. and that idea crossed my mind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13076957 United States 02/05/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he tend to have accident in the same area, first you could put a litter box in that area. maybe he wants that as his area. If that is not what you choose to do, you can put down moth ball flakes under a rug in that area. Cats do not like the smell of moth balls and will avoid that area at all costs. BTW, I'm sure you've been told this, but no canned cat food what so ever. Males are prone to UTI's and this could be part of the problem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19270994 United States 02/05/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may want to try a Super Premium food and not Science Diet or other crap that the vet may sell or recommend. Blue Buffalo or something similar that isn't GMO grain based-The food is pricey however, the cats will digest it more efficiently and their stools will become firm and smaller-more food is being digested than passed and it is real food not grain and grain by products. My 10 year old rescue has never used the litter box to poo only to urinate. Tried EVERYTHING. Finally decided that since she was abandoned young, maybe she was never taught how by her mom. Our happy compromise is that she gets a large plastic box (like a rubbermaid box for under the bed ) with a puppy pad in it. I did use shredded newsprint for a time and that also worked, I just didn't like the mess. Good luck with your kitty! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28136368 Canada 02/05/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely this cat has been neutered, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733 A male cat is almost impossible to prevent marking unless he is "fixed". Does he have long hair? If so, frequent brushing is a big help in preventing the 'hair balls' that cause vomiting. Male cats can be so loving and bonded with their owner. They can also feel left out if ignored and not included in cuddling. Refusing the use a clean litter box is a symptom of something that you haven't recognized as of yet. Keep looking for an answer, or purchase a large cat cage with different levels and keep him there when you are not able to supervise his activities. It's not as cruel as some think. It could contribute calm to your household and also for the animal itself. Good luck. I love pets of all kinds, and some have special needs where others don't. . yes he is neutered and isnt a long hair cat. the puking isnt hair balls. he does that as a cat normally would. the puking is him vomiting back up his food. Regarding the vomiting, are you feeding him strictly just DRY CAT FOOD ? I had the same problem with my cat, also shitting outside his litterbox too. As soon as we switched him over to nothing but cans of wet food the problems stopped %100. Our basement carpet is still covered in orange puke stains, but theres no more new surprises to find anymore. If DRY CAT FOOD is the case, you need to remember cats have sharp teeth because they are meat eaters. They absorb a lot of water and hydration from wet food. DRY CAT FOOD is extremely starchy and builds up in the digestive system. |
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