For anyone traveling full time around the U.S. it is getting harder and harder to find places to park overnight for free.

You need to get a van so that you can sleep in the back and no one can tell you're even there.

Yeah OP, you are spot on. Most people do not realize this is occuring because they do not travel the roads long distances very often. And if they do encounter being run off they blow it off and don't make the realization that there is an agenda going on here. The agenda as I see it is that you have to pay to stop anywhere so that you can be tracked. They want it to be damn near impossible to go under the radar. If you travel in this country there will be a record of every place you stopped and everything you did. Not to mention "security" cameras everywhere recording your every move. These things have been occuring quite slowly and nobody has made the connection with the police state they have created. This is not the land of the free any more. Hasn't been for a long time really. Actually the argument can be made that we have never truly been free. It's just that it's becoming far more obvious to many people nowadays that we are not.

There was a time a few years ago when I was young when state parks were free to get in and only charged a few dollars to camp. Now state and national parks charge an entrance fee, then a camping few plus tax. Usually ends up being over $25 a night.

Almost all public lands east of the Mississippi are fenced and charge a camping fee. Yes, you can park "anywhere", but many areas are now posted with "no camping allowed in this area".

Even Walmart is shutting down overnight parking in many areas.

Don't even think about just pulling off the side of the road to sleep over night. You will get a knock on the window from some cop.

Most shopping centers now have "no overnight parking" signs everywhere.

Hey, I'm not a bum or trying to live off the public, but there is public land EVERYWHERE in America and it's all being closed off.

Everywhere the land is either private and posted, or public and posted, owned by the some government agency (military, state, feds, nasa, etc.).

The time will come when people are all wandering America and are told to "move along".

Wait and see...

Hey, I'm not a bum or trying to live off the public,

Even Walmart is shutting down overnight parking in many areas.



Most shopping centers now have "no overnight parking" signs everywhere.

Come on, why work around their control?

You shouldn't need "half off"! It's our public lands!

Also, why do we need to hide from the cops?

This is the wrong attitude...

How has it gotten to the point where citizens can't use millions of acres of land just because some government agency says it is theirs? Who says so?

Is public places like marinas, public lakes, national forests and state and national parks just for those that can pay for it? Golf courses, swimming pools, wi-fi, lodges owned by corporations, but YOU can't share it unless you pay...

*sigh*

Stopped at McDonald's for breakfast and saw this post.

First of all, why do we have to hide from our own cops!

Secondly, I live a converted box van that is just like a moving truck on the outside. Door with curtain from cab to cargo bay. It looks like any U-haul or Penske rental truck.

They watch for any vehicle parked over night and track it. I made the mistake of staying in the area for 3 nights. Usually I move every day or so.

But, you are missing the whole point. Why do I have to hide from my own law enforcement people? I haven't broken any laws. This attitude is just crazy...

Watch it, remember it and be careful out there:

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Yep. It's ALL claimed by some group now. All of a sudden we look up and we will have to pay for ALL our own land...

Then what are you? a hobo?

Why not become a productive member of society and quit being a leach?

Please try to understand. There are MANY ways to scam the system. I have used many of them. What I am trying to warn you about is that all freedom is ending faster than you even care to consider...

Stopped at McDonald's for breakfast and saw this post.

First of all, why do we have to hide from our own cops!

Secondly, I live a converted box van that is just like a moving truck on the outside. Door with curtain from cab to cargo bay. It looks like any U-haul or Penske rental truck.

They watch for any vehicle parked over night and track it. I made the mistake of staying in the area for 3 nights. Usually I move every day or so.

But, you are missing the whole point. Why do I have to hide from my own law enforcement people? I haven't broken any laws. This attitude is just crazy...

Yes public land is suppose to be the peoples land.

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same argument

Again, I am NOT crying about my problem. SOON this may be your problem also...

Why not become a productive member of society and quit being a leach?