IMPLOSION ALERT: Fed Has Bought More Gov't Debt This Year Than Gov't Has Issued | |
Saddletramp User ID: 10843255 United States 02/13/2013 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even after exchanging 40 Billion per month worth of T-Bills to the large banks in exchange for Mortgage Backed Securities...this has also made the Fed the largest Mortgage Holder in the USA... It's borrowing from one hand to pay the other, a shell game, and it cannot last forever... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34303385 United States 02/13/2013 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our government buying debt, ammo, drones, AR-15's, etc. This should tell you something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34303385 FED isnt govt, or didnt you know? Govt doesnt buy debt, it sells debt and youre the sku your telling me their not the same then why does our government have timmy and bernake on the pay roll? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1447583 United States 02/13/2013 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm wondering how long it's going to be before our creditors (China) start demanding payback because we're turning the American dollar into the Zimbabwean dollar. Quoting: telling it straight no kidding. isn't this cheating BRICS? they just print and pay goons in costumes and pay for people inside their fence to produce more technology to attack people with. Why do countries even import to the US anymore is what would like to know. we produce nothing beside prisons and spyware. Not true. We also produce virtually all of the world's porn and Democrats. Not so fast. Because of new government regulations being imposed on the porn industry, the porn industry is moving from California to the UK. |
goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States 02/13/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YES, registar .... Bammy. parasitic politicians are following the SAME path as Rome. Was into the metals market in 1980, and had 40,000 pounds of copper under contract, as the banks were giving $1.10 cents for 100 pennies. Quoting: Eagle # 1 7633733 Using my science lab scales and a little arithmetic, I decided the government (i.e. corporation) would HAVE to start making pennies and price of copper would go UP ! Surprise ! The took most of the copper OUT of the lowly penny and substituted other LESS EXPENSIVE metals. I knew they stole the silver out of the dimes/quarters and halves in 1965, but could NOT imagine them taking the copper too ! With a commie/socialist heading the US ship of State straight to the bottom from the Mulatto House, it's the Titanic all OVER AGAIN ! Most people have NO IDEA that if we default, ALL Federal land is pledged as collateral for that debt, via the Breton Woods Agreement ! That's 1/3 of the USA ! THEN, as the feds/state/banksters own your property, house, etc. you better learn Chinese VERY SOON. Eagle Those "free trade zones" occupied by the Chinese are well established all over the place...good thing Clinton gave them the Panama Canal... |
goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States 02/13/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's borrowing from one hand to pay the other, a shell game, and it cannot last forever... Quoting: Saddletramp why can't they? all they have to do is print and other countries will ship their goods over. looks to me there won't be an end to this scam in sight [link to www.dryships.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33298613 United States 02/13/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No country in the history of mankind has ever done this and not experienced some sort of collapse. Some of you don't get. Still. This is a PLANNED destruction of the US dollar, all the while done in a way to make the socialists/communists "popular" with the mob. WE GAVE YOU PHONES, TRIED TO GIVE YOU AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PAID FOR YOUR FOOD...............but others wouldn't share. They STOPPED us from achieving prosperity. WE NEED YOUR HELP NOW OTHERWISE WE WILL NEVER GET AHEAD................... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17858859 United States 02/13/2013 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this shit is fucking insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how can there be any judicial authority in a world with no redress of grievences or accountbility for fraud and abuse. We need a new term for when cictizens have morally retracted participation to be governed because there is no rule of law and oppression. |
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telling it straight (OP) User ID: 34080739 United States 02/13/2013 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No country in the history of mankind has ever done this and not experienced some sort of collapse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33298613 Some of you don't get. Still. This is a PLANNED destruction of the US dollar, all the while done in a way to make the socialists/communists "popular" with the mob. WE GAVE YOU PHONES, TRIED TO GIVE YOU AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PAID FOR YOUR FOOD...............but others wouldn't share. They STOPPED us from achieving prosperity. WE NEED YOUR HELP NOW OTHERWISE WE WILL NEVER GET AHEAD................... You're making excellent points. Exactly their strategy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14899339 United States 02/13/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm wondering how long it's going to be before our creditors (China) start demanding payback because we're turning the American dollar into the Zimbabwean dollar. Quoting: telling it straight The U.S. has everything to gain by letting its currency collapse under the already in progress currency wars and then issuing new fiat currency. Because we still technically own the worlds largest asset of a more meaningful wealth in a future economy. Hint: More than half of the U.S. sits on top of it every day. |
TraderRob User ID: 34196162 United States 02/13/2013 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree... it is going to happen and when it does, it is going to happen quickly. Wal-Mart will not be able to do much about it... rationing.. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778045 Puerto Rico 02/13/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fed is loaning money to the U.S by the federal reserve. They are also buying the debt, lol Buy the Debt they are loaning? The elite Own the debt, not china like fox and cnn says. And yes this is to keep us a float a little longer til collapse. And yes the people and land are the collateral. |
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G3 User ID: 1531577 United States 02/13/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16736573 no kidding. isn't this cheating BRICS? they just print and pay goons in costumes and pay for people inside their fence to produce more technology to attack people with. Why do countries even import to the US anymore is what would like to know. we produce nothing beside prisons and spyware. Not true. We also produce virtually all of the world's porn and Democrats. Not so fast. Because of new government regulations being imposed on the porn industry, the porn industry is moving from California to the UK. Well there it is, then. Our last industry, farmed out to a bunch of toothless slaves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16416118 United States 02/13/2013 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16736573 no kidding. isn't this cheating BRICS? they just print and pay goons in costumes and pay for people inside their fence to produce more technology to attack people with. Why do countries even import to the US anymore is what would like to know. we produce nothing beside prisons and spyware. Not true. We also produce virtually all of the world's porn and Democrats. Not so fast. Because of new government regulations being imposed on the porn industry, the porn industry is moving from California to the UK. Well there it is, then. Our last industry, farmed out to a bunch of toothless slaves. lol you're a funny dude |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16416118 United States 02/13/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fed is loaning money to the U.S by the federal reserve. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778045 They are also buying the debt, lol Buy the Debt they are loaning? The elite Own the debt, not china like fox and cnn says. And yes this is to keep us a float a little longer til collapse. And yes the people and land are the collateral. no only the idiots endorsing private credit issued by the fed. They WILL come knocking on your door and unless you show competency by redeeming lawful money you are ass is grass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29184782 United States 02/14/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YES, registar .... Bammy. parasitic politicians are following the SAME path as Rome. Was into the metals market in 1980, and had 40,000 pounds of copper under contract, as the banks were giving $1.10 cents for 100 pennies. Quoting: Eagle # 1 7633733 Using my science lab scales and a little arithmetic, I decided the government (i.e. corporation) would HAVE to start making pennies and price of copper would go UP ! Surprise ! The took most of the copper OUT of the lowly penny and substituted other LESS EXPENSIVE metals. I knew they stole the silver out of the dimes/quarters and halves in 1965, but could NOT imagine them taking the copper too ! With a commie/socialist heading the US ship of State straight to the bottom from the Mulatto House, it's the Titanic all OVER AGAIN ! Most people have NO IDEA that if we default, ALL Federal land is pledged as collateral for that debt, via the Breton Woods Agreement ! That's 1/3 of the USA ! THEN, as the feds/state/banksters own your property, house, etc. you better learn Chinese VERY SOON. Eagle That's why they want us armed and pissed off to the max. What can we as the people legally and peacefully do to change ownership of Federal lands, much of which was illegally or unlawfully confiscated, back into the ownership of the people? We had better find a way to protect ourselves from this invasion, and the government who is perpetrating is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34371265 United States 02/14/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No country in the history of mankind has ever done this and not experienced some sort of collapse. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* The ancient Roman Empire comes to mind as an excellent example. They also had an over extended military paid with and increasingly worthless currency and a central governmental control structure that was completely corrupt and dethatched from its incompatibly multicultural citizens. This is the roman empire, just not "our roman empire". Constantine hy-jacked christianity to re-build his empire, and boy did he. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29184782 United States 02/14/2013 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our debt load to China has fallen from over 1 trillion to just under 700 billion since 2010, and their composition of their holdings are now heavily weighted to short term debt. The Fed has been buying China out of our debt that entire time. In fact for the past two years the largest buyer of US debt has been the Fed, and they are now the single largest holder of our debt. Quoting: Saddletramp Even after exchanging 40 Billion per month worth of T-Bills to the large banks in exchange for Mortgage Backed Securities...this has also made the Fed the largest Mortgage Holder in the USA... It's borrowing from one hand to pay the other, a shell game, and it cannot last forever... If the Fed implodes, would that take out the owners of the Fed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2310364 United States 02/14/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our debt load to China has fallen from over 1 trillion to just under 700 billion since 2010, and their composition of their holdings are now heavily weighted to short term debt. The Fed has been buying China out of our debt that entire time. In fact for the past two years the largest buyer of US debt has been the Fed, and they are now the single largest holder of our debt. Quoting: Saddletramp Even after exchanging 40 Billion per month worth of T-Bills to the large banks in exchange for Mortgage Backed Securities...this has also made the Fed the largest Mortgage Holder in the USA... It's borrowing from one hand to pay the other, a shell game, and it cannot last forever... If the Fed implodes, would that take out the owners of the Fed? welcome to 2.1 quadrillion in derivatives to make sure there is no down risk and only up potential, its like the house rigging the system so only those with small funds lose |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33034699 United States 02/14/2013 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our debt load to China has fallen from over 1 trillion to just under 700 billion since 2010, and their composition of their holdings are now heavily weighted to short term debt. The Fed has been buying China out of our debt that entire time. In fact for the past two years the largest buyer of US debt has been the Fed, and they are now the single largest holder of our debt. Quoting: Saddletramp Even after exchanging 40 Billion per month worth of T-Bills to the large banks in exchange for Mortgage Backed Securities...this has also made the Fed the largest Mortgage Holder in the USA... It's borrowing from one hand to pay the other, a shell game, and it cannot last forever... If the Fed implodes, would that take out the owners of the Fed? welcome to 2.1 quadrillion in derivatives to make sure there is no down risk and only up potential, its like the house rigging the system so only those with small funds lose Exactly right, either it continues just as it is "forever" or it fails ! Speed up those printing presses ! |
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