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DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,862.00 -27.00 13,890.00 13,907.00 13,833.00 07:10:23
S&P 500 Mar13 1,503.40 -3.70 1,507.50 1,509.60 1,500.90 07:10:23
NASDAQ 100 Mar13 2,726.50 -11.00 2,737.00 2,737.25 2,722.75 07:08:44
S&P/TSX 60 IX Mar13 725.70 -3.80 726.50 726.60 725.50 07:00:36
MEX BOLSA IDX Mar13 44,426.00 -281.00 44,500.00 44,670.00 44,395.00 15:59:01
BOVESPA INDEX Apr13 56,200.00 -283.00 56,140.00 56,270.00 56,140.00 07:05:24


Europe, Middle East & Africa
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
EURO STOXX 50 Mar13 2,590.00 -49.00 2,622.00 2,624.00 2,578.00 07:05:34
FTSE 100 IDX Mar13 6,278.00 -94.50 6,347.00 6,354.00 6,259.00 07:05:06
CAC40 10 EURO Mar13 3,646.00 -62.00 3,689.00 3,690.00 3,632.00 07:05:18
DAX INDEX Mar13 7,596.00 -139.50 7,693.00 7,698.00 7,559.50 07:05:04
IBEX 35 INDX Mar13 8,039.00 -128.80 8,122.00 8,122.00 7,979.00 07:05:08
FTSE/MIB IDX Mar13 16,060.00 -465.00 16,425.00 16,425.00 16,010.00 07:05:18
AMSTERDAM IDX Mar13 336.75 -6.90 342.60 342.60 335.35 07:05:12
OMXS30 IND Mar13 1,184.00 -13.00 1,191.25 1,191.50 1,180.50 07:05:12
SWISS MKT IX Mar13 7,552.00 +47.00 7,507.00 7,545.00 7,441.00 15:59:53


Asia-Pacific
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
NIKKEI 225 (OSE) Mar13 11,250.00 -70.00 11,310.00 11,340.00 11,240.00 06:59:51
HANG SENG IDX Feb13 22,858.00 -363.00 23,070.00 23,070.00 22,800.00 03:15:00
SPI 200 Mar13 4,970.00 +3.00 4,968.00 4,991.00 4,966.00 07:09:58
CSI 300 IDX Mar13 2,619.20 -92.20 2,697.00 2,697.80 2,590.40 02:15:00


A friend of mine is a financial advisor. We were talking a few days ago while playing some pick-up hockey. He said the Q.E. "program" in the U.S. is coming to an end, and it could cause a big down in the U.S., which would in turn, cause a world wide down turn.

The way he explained it was something like this:
If you take large wet logs and try to start a fire with no paper, twigs, etc... just using a book of matches, the only fire you'll ever have is from the matches themselves. Once they are gone, so is your fire. He said Q.E. is the match book.

I (being a closet DOOM guy outside of GLP) thought this was quite interesting, but never thought much more about it until this morning when I heard about the futures markets.

Food for thought.
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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Germany seems to be perched on pretty steady ground, no?
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DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,862.00 -27.00 13,890.00 13,907.00 13,833.00 07:10:23
S&P 500 Mar13 1,503.40 -3.70 1,507.50 1,509.60 1,500.90 07:10:23
NASDAQ 100 Mar13 2,726.50 -11.00 2,737.00 2,737.25 2,722.75 07:08:44
S&P/TSX 60 IX Mar13 725.70 -3.80 726.50 726.60 725.50 07:00:36
MEX BOLSA IDX Mar13 44,426.00 -281.00 44,500.00 44,670.00 44,395.00 15:59:01
BOVESPA INDEX Apr13 56,200.00 -283.00 56,140.00 56,270.00 56,140.00 07:05:24


Europe, Middle East & Africa
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
EURO STOXX 50 Mar13 2,590.00 -49.00 2,622.00 2,624.00 2,578.00 07:05:34
FTSE 100 IDX Mar13 6,278.00 -94.50 6,347.00 6,354.00 6,259.00 07:05:06
CAC40 10 EURO Mar13 3,646.00 -62.00 3,689.00 3,690.00 3,632.00 07:05:18
DAX INDEX Mar13 7,596.00 -139.50 7,693.00 7,698.00 7,559.50 07:05:04
IBEX 35 INDX Mar13 8,039.00 -128.80 8,122.00 8,122.00 7,979.00 07:05:08
FTSE/MIB IDX Mar13 16,060.00 -465.00 16,425.00 16,425.00 16,010.00 07:05:18
AMSTERDAM IDX Mar13 336.75 -6.90 342.60 342.60 335.35 07:05:12
OMXS30 IND Mar13 1,184.00 -13.00 1,191.25 1,191.50 1,180.50 07:05:12
SWISS MKT IX Mar13 7,552.00 +47.00 7,507.00 7,545.00 7,441.00 15:59:53


Asia-Pacific
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
NIKKEI 225 (OSE) Mar13 11,250.00 -70.00 11,310.00 11,340.00 11,240.00 06:59:51
HANG SENG IDX Feb13 22,858.00 -363.00 23,070.00 23,070.00 22,800.00 03:15:00
SPI 200 Mar13 4,970.00 +3.00 4,968.00 4,991.00 4,966.00 07:09:58
CSI 300 IDX Mar13 2,619.20 -92.20 2,697.00 2,697.80 2,590.40 02:15:00


A friend of mine is a financial advisor. We were talking a few days ago while playing some pick-up hockey. He said the Q.E. "program" in the U.S. is coming to an end, and it could cause a big down in the U.S., which would in turn, cause a world wide down turn.

The way he explained it was something like this:
If you take large wet logs and try to start a fire with no paper, twigs, etc... just using a book of matches, the only fire you'll ever have is from the matches themselves. Once they are gone, so is your fire. He said Q.E. is the match book.

I (being a closet DOOM guy outside of GLP) thought this was quite interesting, but never thought much more about it until this morning when I heard about the futures markets.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Wash


Maybe, I doubt it.. BUT if the Fed decides it will stop it's money printing it's game over

The market is shit today but the price on silver and gold is dropping free fall, What are they trying to hide?

Last Edited by Mega Nix on 02/21/2013 07:41 AM
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economy-related doom???


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DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,862.00 -27.00 13,890.00 13,907.00 13,833.00 07:10:23
S&P 500 Mar13 1,503.40 -3.70 1,507.50 1,509.60 1,500.90 07:10:23
NASDAQ 100 Mar13 2,726.50 -11.00 2,737.00 2,737.25 2,722.75 07:08:44
S&P/TSX 60 IX Mar13 725.70 -3.80 726.50 726.60 725.50 07:00:36
MEX BOLSA IDX Mar13 44,426.00 -281.00 44,500.00 44,670.00 44,395.00 15:59:01
BOVESPA INDEX Apr13 56,200.00 -283.00 56,140.00 56,270.00 56,140.00 07:05:24


Europe, Middle East & Africa
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
EURO STOXX 50 Mar13 2,590.00 -49.00 2,622.00 2,624.00 2,578.00 07:05:34
FTSE 100 IDX Mar13 6,278.00 -94.50 6,347.00 6,354.00 6,259.00 07:05:06
CAC40 10 EURO Mar13 3,646.00 -62.00 3,689.00 3,690.00 3,632.00 07:05:18
DAX INDEX Mar13 7,596.00 -139.50 7,693.00 7,698.00 7,559.50 07:05:04
IBEX 35 INDX Mar13 8,039.00 -128.80 8,122.00 8,122.00 7,979.00 07:05:08
FTSE/MIB IDX Mar13 16,060.00 -465.00 16,425.00 16,425.00 16,010.00 07:05:18
AMSTERDAM IDX Mar13 336.75 -6.90 342.60 342.60 335.35 07:05:12
OMXS30 IND Mar13 1,184.00 -13.00 1,191.25 1,191.50 1,180.50 07:05:12
SWISS MKT IX Mar13 7,552.00 +47.00 7,507.00 7,545.00 7,441.00 15:59:53


Asia-Pacific
Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
NIKKEI 225 (OSE) Mar13 11,250.00 -70.00 11,310.00 11,340.00 11,240.00 06:59:51
HANG SENG IDX Feb13 22,858.00 -363.00 23,070.00 23,070.00 22,800.00 03:15:00
SPI 200 Mar13 4,970.00 +3.00 4,968.00 4,991.00 4,966.00 07:09:58
CSI 300 IDX Mar13 2,619.20 -92.20 2,697.00 2,697.80 2,590.40 02:15:00


A friend of mine is a financial advisor. We were talking a few days ago while playing some pick-up hockey. He said the Q.E. "program" in the U.S. is coming to an end, and it could cause a big down in the U.S., which would in turn, cause a world wide down turn.

The way he explained it was something like this:
If you take large wet logs and try to start a fire with no paper, twigs, etc... just using a book of matches, the only fire you'll ever have is from the matches themselves. Once they are gone, so is your fire. He said Q.E. is the match book.

I (being a closet DOOM guy outside of GLP) thought this was quite interesting, but never thought much more about it until this morning when I heard about the futures markets.

Food for thought.
 Quoting: Wash


Maybe, I doubt it.. BUT if the Fed decides it will stop it's money printing it's game over

The market is shit today but the price on silver and gold is dropping free fall, What are they trying to hide?
 Quoting: Mega Nix


Your guess is as good as mine.
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If the economy take a serious down turn, after all the promise of "recovery"...imagine America in he same situation Greece is going through. It would be a civil war scene. Maybe that's why they are trying so hard to get the guns out of peoples houses?
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Release of the January Fed minutes indicates the Fed is considering the cessation of QE3 $85B monthly purchase of mortgage backed securities. This has folks pulling out for fear of the actual policy change and is causing a drift up in mortgage rates.

All this does is confirm that the whole recovery thing is a manipulated sham. With that said, there will be some backtracking in the markets until Oblabla & company order the creation of more worthless fiat to prop it up a while longer to preserve his "legacy".

View this as an opportunity to short the market & add to metal stashes.
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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really now? us futures down 20+ hardly a crash.. its moving toward an all time high. then when it goes down -100 its a crash? lol
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If the economy take a serious down turn, after all the promise of "recovery"...imagine America in he same situation Greece is going through. It would be a civil war scene. Maybe that's why they are trying so hard to get the guns out of peoples houses?
 Quoting: Wash


That will happen, but not until the lib tards have milked the country for all it is worth. Then when the collapse does happen, they will blame it on the conservatives; who like total dumbasses, will never see it coming.
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Nah,
The stock market is fine, its the rest of the economy that is hurting

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Release of the January Fed minutes indicates the Fed is considering the cessation of QE3 $85B monthly purchase of mortgage backed securities. This has folks pulling out for fear of the actual policy change and is causing a drift up in mortgage rates.

All this does is confirm that the whole recovery thing is a manipulated sham. With that said, there will be some backtracking in the markets until Oblabla & company order the creation of more worthless fiat to prop it up a while longer to preserve his "legacy".

View this as an opportunity to short the market & add to metal stashes.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Good morning Lady Jane.
At some point TPTB are going to grow board of this QE farce.
When that happens, TSHTF much worse than say...an earthquake, solar flare, meteor, etc...

Money makes the world go around, but what happens when the money stops?
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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really now? us futures down 20+ hardly a crash.. its moving toward an all time high. then when it goes down -100 its a crash? lol
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It's a begining. Don't just look at the DJ. Look at the world markets.
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Thanks for the PIN!
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Release of the January Fed minutes indicates the Fed is considering the cessation of QE3 $85B monthly purchase of mortgage backed securities. This has folks pulling out for fear of the actual policy change and is causing a drift up in mortgage rates.

All this does is confirm that the whole recovery thing is a manipulated sham. With that said, there will be some backtracking in the markets until Oblabla & company order the creation of more worthless fiat to prop it up a while longer to preserve his "legacy".

View this as an opportunity to short the market & add to metal stashes.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Good morning Lady Jane.
At some point TPTB are going to grow board of this QE farce.
When that happens, TSHTF much worse than say...an earthquake, solar flare, meteor, etc...

Money makes the world go around, but what happens when the money stops?
 Quoting: Wash


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PLease let it crashes and start something new equal for everybody on this earth!!!
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Sell everything (Your car,your wife,your body...) and find you a cavern....
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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really now? us futures down 20+ hardly a crash.. its moving toward an all time high. then when it goes down -100 its a crash? lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17368418


It's a begining. Don't just look at the DJ. Look at the world markets.
 Quoting: Wash


Hang Seng Hong Kong -400.74 -1.72% 22,906.67

thats hard hurting. thats like us being down -140 points. thier stock market is right at 23,000 whats -400 point drop?
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Thanks friend.
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today or tomorrow...it's on!
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really now? us futures down 20+ hardly a crash.. its moving toward an all time high. then when it goes down -100 its a crash? lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17368418


It's a begining. Don't just look at the DJ. Look at the world markets.
 Quoting: Wash


Hang Seng Hong Kong -400.74 -1.72% 22,906.67

thats hard hurting. thats like us being down -140 points. thier stock market is right at 23,000 whats -400 point drop?
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Can't see the forest through the trees eh?
Do you see that EVERYTHING is in red? Weather it's a drop in the bucket for now individually or not, the fact that they are ALL RED is a problem.
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Let´s hope so, this house of cards has to fall.
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This will be the beginning
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Release of the January Fed minutes indicates the Fed is considering the cessation of QE3 $85B monthly purchase of mortgage backed securities. This has folks pulling out for fear of the actual policy change and is causing a drift up in mortgage rates.

All this does is confirm that the whole recovery thing is a manipulated sham. With that said, there will be some backtracking in the markets until Oblabla & company order the creation of more worthless fiat to prop it up a while longer to preserve his "legacy".

View this as an opportunity to short the market & add to metal stashes.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Good morning Lady Jane.
At some point TPTB are going to grow board of this QE farce.
When that happens, TSHTF much worse than say...an earthquake, solar flare, meteor, etc...

Money makes the world go around, but what happens when the money stops?
 Quoting: Wash


There are doubts about further QE. That could be enough to topple it.

Bernanke said not long ago it was QE infinity and beyond. Seems not.
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DOJ and S&P are highest since the G.Bush presidency financial collapse. Maybe stop fear mongering and accept the fact the economy is growing.
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Is the collapse about to begin?

I hope so.

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Markets up!!! Just another profit taking day for the elite...
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It's a currency war, with a race to the bottom. And the loser is......





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DOJ and S&P are highest since the G.Bush presidency financial collapse. Maybe stop fear mongering and accept the fact the economy is growing.
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Visit any city in America, big or small, and then tell me the economy is groing.
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DOJ and S&P are highest since the G.Bush presidency financial collapse. Maybe stop fear mongering and accept the fact the economy is growing.
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Think deeper.
Fate whispers to the warrior

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DOJ and S&P are highest since the G.Bush presidency financial collapse. Maybe stop fear mongering and accept the fact the economy is growing.
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