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BREAKING NEWS! North Korea has officially ended the armistice agreement that ended the korean war

 
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They've done it several times before
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Things not gone this bad ...

Though had SKY NEWS on all morning and not a mention..Whats Dave's thinking on the matter , if it goes tits up , will the UK tag along ?

Or is the special relationship not that special anymore... ??
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They've done it several times before
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Don't be an idiot.

They have SAID IT before.


NOW they have actualy DONE IT !
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I keep hearing all this crap about how they did it before over the years, and all this nonsense.

Well you are forgetting one thing. In the previous years, the son wasn't in power... the father was. Now the son is, and the son is, I'm guessing, even more irrational and brainwashed than the father.

I mean come on, this guy is fucking 28 years old, raised in a country that has the belief that he is some sort of demi-god. That age, that immature mind, and that military might is a recipe for destruction.

So this isn't like every other time. They didn't have 28 year old at the wheel the 'other times'.
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I can guarantee that there will be no war on the Korean peninsula for the rest of this year. If war does indeed breaks out, I will stop posting at GLP for 3 months. popcornpopcorn
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If your so certain why not make it permenantly instead of 3 months???
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So I've been watching CNN for the past 10mins and they are

a) either avoiding this story and hoping it goes away because they don't want people to panic

or

b) producers haven't told the correspondents yet and cue'd up the teleprompters with scripted "copy" (but don't they all use twitter and facebook to get updates ??)

Anyway, they are covering tons of other stories like actress Valerie Harper's cancer, snow in the midwest (during late winter) and lotto tickets...

I guess...

This is odd. wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2877009


They just had small blip on Fox news, but talking more about the US/SK joint exercise, not the Armistice. Im guessing all the smart people to analyze it havent been brought it for interviews yet.
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REMEMBER THAT WHEN THE SHOTS START FIRING!
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NK getting its ass whooped in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17616880


Last time they invaded SK they took 95% of the south very quickly. The US almost used nuclear weapons then, this time NK has them.

The US, S Korea, UK, Australia and others were effectively fighting the NK's Chinese and Russians.

China and Russia may sit this one out, but that doesn't mean it wont be ugly for SK.
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nothing will happen, i have reliable sources..
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nothing will happen, i have reliable sources..
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You uncle?
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I dont think NK would nuke SK. That would defeat the purpose of "unifying" it. I DO think they wouldnt hesitate to attack japan or the US with nukes or biological weapons since they have no interests in occupying either.
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I keep hearing all this crap about how they did it before over the years, and all this nonsense.

Well you are forgetting one thing. In the previous years, the son wasn't in power... the father was. Now the son is, and the son is, I'm guessing, even more irrational and brainwashed than the father.

I mean come on, this guy is fucking 28 years old, raised in a country that has the belief that he is some sort of demi-god. That age, that immature mind, and that military might is a recipe for destruction.

So this isn't like every other time. They didn't have 28 year old at the wheel the 'other times'.
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I dont think NK would nuke SK. That would defeat the purpose of "unifying" it. I DO think they wouldnt hesitate to attack japan or the US with nukes or biological weapons since they have no interests in occupying either.
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Nk does not need to nuke SK to win the war.

Convetionaly, in 12 hours, NK will capture Seoul, 12 hours later, the upper half of SK.

The ONLY way to stop NK is for US to use nukes, which if they do, they risk open war with China.
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nothing will happen, i have reliable sources..
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You uncle?
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They have been prepping to destroy the obstacle to reunification for 60 yrs ie the US - over the top rhetoric and empty threats is the perfect cover for their preparations - what they needed to have done is to minaturise an EMP warhead to fit a scud missile launchd from a coastal freighter, or satelite or shipping container or..............whatever, but make no mistake they fully intend to do it
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They've done it several times before
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


Things not gone this bad ...

Though had SKY NEWS on all morning and not a mention..Whats Dave's thinking on the matter , if it goes tits up , will the UK tag along ?

Or is the special relationship not that special anymore... ??
 Quoting: Futureseye


Fuck America, I think we should stop supporting their phoney wars when they can't can't even support us over the Falkland Islanders' right to self-determination.
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Its just distraction.

Check this out instead. That one was filmed in Canada!



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How would you know that? It doesn't say that in the comments or in the description. And oh, look at this, it was filmed on a fucking cruise ship:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Now where was this cruse ship? Well judging by the ladies walking around with bare arms, it sure doesn't look like Canada. Oh, but we can KNOW where that cruise ship was headed because this video was uploaded the same day:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Cozumel. So they were somewhere in the Caribbean. Now judging by the many uploads that day, chances are they uploaded them after getting home from their cruise, not the same day they filmed them. Therefore we have to go based on the phase of the moon and the month it was uploaded to find the date it was filmed. I would eyeball that to be about 40% illuminated, though because it's so bright it's hard to say which features are illuminated and therefore whether it's waxing or waning. So let's find more detailed info on where and when this cruise occurred, shall we?
[link to www.youtube.com]
" Stephanie MacDonald 3 years ago

It was the Norwegian Jewel. Charter Cruise by Sixthman. Ships and Dip V (Barenaked Ladies)"
Much better. A quick search for that turns up this:
[link to boards.cruisecritic.com]
"The Norwegian Jewel will host Barenaked Ladies annual Ships and Dip cruise February 1-6, 2009."
There we go! According to my spreadsheet, the moon was 40% full at 1:20 UT on February 2nd, 2009 which would be at 8:20 at night on February 1st by Florida time. From this video we can see they departed from Miami on February 1st:
[link to www.youtube.com]
We can see that February 2nd was a "day at sea" between Miami and Cozumel:
[link to www.suebeedesigns.com]
Makes perfect sense; days spent at sea typically involve parties on the deck at night, and it was their first night out at sea on February 1st. They probably weren't too far from Miami at that point, I'm going to guess somewhere near the Keys, 24.5N 81W. According to my spreadsheet ( Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon ) the moon was highly tilted from those coordinates all night, reaching 90 degrees tilt exactly at 11:03pm eastern time. Even as early as 9pm it was 82 degrees tilted from vertical, by 10pm it was nearly 86 degrees tilted, and again at 11:03 it peaked at 90 degrees tilt. So yes, this video is confirmed by calculations showing where the moon SHOULD be and how tilted it SHOULD look relative to the horizon.

Damn I'm good.
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They've done it several times before
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


You're absolutely right. But what people are failing to realize here is the very real fact that we're NOT dealing with lil Kim's father anymore. We're dealing with a post adolescent with a TON of very powerful toys at his disposal to "play" with and "toy soldiers" waiting to do his bidding.
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Nah, I don't really believe he has any real power - he's a puppet, like Barack Obama and most other national "leaders". He will be taking orders from elsewhere, like those before him.
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Its just distraction.

Check this out instead. That one was filmed in Canada!



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How would you know that? It doesn't say that in the comments or in the description. And oh, look at this, it was filmed on a fucking cruise ship:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Now where was this cruse ship? Well judging by the ladies walking around with bare arms, it sure doesn't look like Canada. Oh, but we can KNOW where that cruise ship was headed because this video was uploaded the same day:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Cozumel. So they were somewhere in the Caribbean. Now judging by the many uploads that day, chances are they uploaded them after getting home from their cruise, not the same day they filmed them. Therefore we have to go based on the phase of the moon and the month it was uploaded to find the date it was filmed. I would eyeball that to be about 40% illuminated, though because it's so bright it's hard to say which features are illuminated and therefore whether it's waxing or waning. So let's find more detailed info on where and when this cruise occurred, shall we?
[link to www.youtube.com]
" Stephanie MacDonald 3 years ago

It was the Norwegian Jewel. Charter Cruise by Sixthman. Ships and Dip V (Barenaked Ladies)"
Much better. A quick search for that turns up this:
[link to boards.cruisecritic.com]
"The Norwegian Jewel will host Barenaked Ladies annual Ships and Dip cruise February 1-6, 2009."
There we go! According to my spreadsheet, the moon was 40% full at 1:20 UT on February 2nd, 2009 which would be at 8:20 at night on February 1st by Florida time. From this video we can see they departed from Miami on February 1st:
[link to www.youtube.com]
We can see that February 2nd was a "day at sea" between Miami and Cozumel:
[link to www.suebeedesigns.com]
Makes perfect sense; days spent at sea typically involve parties on the deck at night, and it was their first night out at sea on February 1st. They probably weren't too far from Miami at that point, I'm going to guess somewhere near the Keys, 24.5N 81W. According to my spreadsheet ( Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon ) the moon was highly tilted from those coordinates all night, reaching 90 degrees tilt exactly at 11:03pm eastern time. Even as early as 9pm it was 82 degrees tilted from vertical, by 10pm it was nearly 86 degrees tilted, and again at 11:03 it peaked at 90 degrees tilt. So yes, this video is confirmed by calculations showing where the moon SHOULD be and how tilted it SHOULD look relative to the horizon.

Damn I'm good.
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clappa

And I don't care if it's off topic.
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So I've been watching CNN for the past 10mins and they are

a) either avoiding this story and hoping it goes away because they don't want people to panic

or

b) producers haven't told the correspondents yet and cue'd up the teleprompters with scripted "copy" (but don't they all use twitter and facebook to get updates ??)

Anyway, they are covering tons of other stories like actress Valerie Harper's cancer, snow in the midwest (during late winter) and lotto tickets...

I guess...

This is odd. wtf
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Same thing in France. I was listening radio, nothing about that, just some articles on the web.
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God is not going to allow more wars.
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clappa

And I don't care if it's off topic.
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Thank you! I don't want to distract from this thread or derail it though (which seems like it was Duc's intention to begin with), so I branched off my post into its own thread if Duc wants to discuss it any further:
Thread: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
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They've done it several times before
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


North Korea had previously threatened to formally scrap the Armistice several times before but they haven't totally nullified it as they have today.

As of right now, there is no safeguard whatsoever to prevent war on the Korean peninsula. It's June 1950 and the go-order is about to be given for a second time.
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I dont think NK would nuke SK. That would defeat the purpose of "unifying" it. I DO think they wouldnt hesitate to attack japan or the US with nukes or biological weapons since they have no interests in occupying either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17616880


Nk does not need to nuke SK to win the war.

Convetionaly, in 12 hours, NK will capture Seoul, 12 hours later, the upper half of SK.

The ONLY way to stop NK is for US to use nukes, which if they do, they risk open war with China.
 Quoting: recollector


I agree and disagree.

The playing fields in regards to air support and the ability of armor were much more level in those days.

The US has a huge aerial, armor and naval advantage, but lacks the numbers of troops.

It would probably require the UK, Germany, France, Australia, Canada etc to supply maybe an additional 100,000-250,000 troops in addition to maybe 4 times that of SK troops.

The US sent close to half a million last time.

If NK shells the shit out of SK and then pushes south with half a million - a million troops its going to be fucking insane.

I'm not convinced Seoul would hold, they would have to retreat and call in air strikes on positions.

I think the Chinese sent 1,500,000 troops last time.

The korean war was fucking UGLY and was not minor, it seriously could have blown up into WW3 then.
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Its just distraction.

Check this out instead. That one was filmed in Canada!



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How would you know that? It doesn't say that in the comments or in the description. And oh, look at this, it was filmed on a fucking cruise ship:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Now where was this cruse ship? Well judging by the ladies walking around with bare arms, it sure doesn't look like Canada. Oh, but we can KNOW where that cruise ship was headed because this video was uploaded the same day:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Cozumel. So they were somewhere in the Caribbean. Now judging by the many uploads that day, chances are they uploaded them after getting home from their cruise, not the same day they filmed them. Therefore we have to go based on the phase of the moon and the month it was uploaded to find the date it was filmed. I would eyeball that to be about 40% illuminated, though because it's so bright it's hard to say which features are illuminated and therefore whether it's waxing or waning. So let's find more detailed info on where and when this cruise occurred, shall we?
[link to www.youtube.com]
" Stephanie MacDonald 3 years ago

It was the Norwegian Jewel. Charter Cruise by Sixthman. Ships and Dip V (Barenaked Ladies)"

Much better. A quick search for that turns up this:
[link to boards.cruisecritic.com]
"The Norwegian Jewel will host Barenaked Ladies annual Ships and Dip cruise February 1-6, 2009."
There we go! According to my spreadsheet, the moon was 40% full at 1:20 UT on February 2nd, 2009 which would be at 8:20 at night on February 1st by Florida time. From this video we can see they departed from Miami on February 1st:
[link to www.youtube.com]
We can see that February 2nd was a "day at sea" between Miami and Cozumel:
[link to www.suebeedesigns.com]
Makes perfect sense; days spent at sea typically involve parties on the deck at night, and it was their first night out at sea on February 1st. They probably weren't too far from Miami at that point, I'm going to guess somewhere near the Keys, 24.5N 81W. According to my spreadsheet ( Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon ) the moon was highly tilted from those coordinates all night, reaching 90 degrees tilt exactly at 11:03pm eastern time. Even as early as 9pm it was 82 degrees tilted from vertical, by 10pm it was nearly 86 degrees tilted, and again at 11:03 it peaked at 90 degrees tilt. So yes, this video is confirmed by calculations showing where the moon SHOULD be and how tilted it SHOULD look relative to the horizon.

Damn I'm good.
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what a wall pile of bullshit!! I see.. 3 2 1you are just in time ready
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nothing will happen, i have reliable sources..
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You uncle?
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my alien uncle from saturn come and explain everything that no need to worry, everything is good as usual
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what a wall pile of bullshit!! I see.. 3 2 1you are just in time ready
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What's the matter? Are you butthurt? Follow the evidence. It's all right there, I just laid the whole thing out and debunked it piece by piece. If you want to discuss it further go here and stop derailing the thread:
Thread: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
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God is not going to allow more wars.
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Like the ones currently raging in Afghanistan, Syria, Congo, northern Iraq, etc?
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They've done it several times before
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


Things not gone this bad ...

Though had SKY NEWS on all morning and not a mention..Whats Dave's thinking on the matter , if it goes tits up , will the UK tag along ?

Or is the special relationship not that special anymore... ??
 Quoting: Futureseye


Fuck America, I think we should stop supporting their phoney wars when they can't can't even support us over the Falkland Islanders' right to self-determination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


Korea wouldn't be phoney and would be very very serious, but I'm with you, Fuck Obama and his administration after his stance on the Falklands. We should protect our own first.

Another Korean war with Chinese or Russian support of NK again is WW3 by proxy. Sending British troops to Korea in that situation would be fucking retarded if Russia could be a serious threat in europe.

If it does kick off in Korea though, i think Russia wont get involved, China may supply arms to NK, but i doubt it.
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I dont think NK would nuke SK. That would defeat the purpose of "unifying" it. I DO think they wouldnt hesitate to attack japan or the US with nukes or biological weapons since they have no interests in occupying either.
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Yes.
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The North Koreans could decapiate and American officer in the DMZ and we still wouldn't do fuck all about it.
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They've done it several times before
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


Things not gone this bad ...

Though had SKY NEWS on all morning and not a mention..Whats Dave's thinking on the matter , if it goes tits up , will the UK tag along ?

Or is the special relationship not that special anymore... ??
 Quoting: Futureseye


Fuck America, I think we should stop supporting their phoney wars when they can't can't even support us over the Falkland Islanders' right to self-determination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35922067


Korea wouldn't be phoney and would be very very serious, but I'm with you, Fuck Obama and his administration after his stance on the Falklands. We should protect our own first.

Another Korean war with Chinese or Russian support of NK again is WW3 by proxy. Sending British troops to Korea in that situation would be fucking retarded if Russia could be a serious threat in europe.

If it does kick off in Korea though, i think Russia wont get involved, China may supply arms to NK, but i doubt it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35390350


Agreed. This is one war we should keep well out of. Let the Koreas sort it among themselves. If the US wants to intervene, let them. It's none of our business.





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