World famous poker player arrested in prostitution sting... who does prostitution hurt anyway?? | |
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far&away User ID: 1444889 Malta 03/20/2013 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my opinion you should go bang your brains out against a wall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154 Who gives a shit about poker players? Star struck morons? I play poker for a living. 75% of the people who succeed in it aren't even known; to say they are "star struck" is a very ignorant comment. What strikes me is how you manage to make a living out of poker. I am a poker player too, never managed to win more than I loose though. “Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future...” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33722154 China 03/20/2013 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why should the news be allowed to expose him like this? is this right? Quoting: billfountain 32199544 It's right and then some. Please elaborate. First of all. A succesful poker player has money. Believes money can buy humans. Tries to buy a woman. Need I elaborate further? He is probably socially retarded. Like all other morons who don't see any wrong in prostitution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1011606 France 03/20/2013 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to abclocal.go.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32199544 I think it's so shameful that this atrocity is now attached to Mr. Greg Raymer's reputation for life. A misdemeanor; a harmless, victimless crime. Who does prostitution hurt? After some research, I found a woman who had this to say: Melissa Farley, PhD of Prostitution Research & Education, argues that prostitution is hardly a victimless crime. In her "Prostitution: Fact sheet on Human Rights Violations" Farley says that prostitution is sexual harassment, rape, battering, verbal abuse, domestic violence, a racist practice, a violation of human rights, childhood sexual abuse, a consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women. Sexual harassment? The woman consented. Rape? The woman consented. Make it legal, then she can make police reports if the man becomes overly-aggressive. Battering? The woman consented. Verbal abuse? Hardly a crime in anyway. Words are just words. Domestic violence? Oh, this only happens during prostitution? Racist practice? Wow, really? The only racist is you, Ms. Farley. Only you would reach that far as to pay acknowledgement towards the races of the people involved. A violation of human rights? THE DAMN WOMAN CONSENTED. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S GETTING HERSELF INTO. AND IF SHE DOESN'T, SHE'LL GROW UP TO BE A PIECE OF SHIT ANYWAY, WHO CARES?? It's not your life. Childhood sexual abuse? What does money have to do with this? Prostitution is different from sex simply because money is involved. If its statutory rape, then its a different story. Whether or not money was involved is irrelevant. A consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women? Tell you what women, we'll dominate you as a gender, and in return, if a cruise ship is ever sinking, you and the children will be rescued first. Oh wait, that already is happening. By the way, this is Ms. Farley's response to general prostitution. She was not asked about FEMALE PROSTITUTION. She, herself, decided to dominate males over females by only paying acknowledgement towards to males who take advantage of women. It just makes me sick that this harmless crime has extremely hindered this nice guy's reputation. It depends the kind of prostitution... Some prostitutes are indeed totally consent and have chosen to be prostitute. But others are not consent and victims of modern slavery from networks (african network, east european network...). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32199544 United States 03/20/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why should the news be allowed to expose him like this? is this right? Quoting: billfountain 32199544 It's right and then some. Please elaborate. First of all. A succesful poker player has money. Believes money can buy humans. Tries to buy a woman. Need I elaborate further? He is probably socially retarded. Like all other morons who don't see any wrong in prostitution. He didn't try to "buy a woman". You're making it sound like slavery. The woman offered sex for money, he accepted, and got busted. I think this is wrong. Yes, you need to elaborate further. He probably does lack in social skill, and yes I do as well. If it makes you feel better to criticize me for having social anxiety, then so be it. However, I still see nothing wrong with common prostitution. It would be awesome if you could actually justify yourself with logic instead of criticism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36448555 United States 03/20/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why should the news be allowed to expose him like this? is this right? Quoting: billfountain 32199544 It's right and then some. Please elaborate. First of all. A succesful poker player has money. Believes money can buy humans. Tries to buy a woman. Need I elaborate further? He is probably socially retarded. Like all other morons who don't see any wrong in prostitution. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32199544 United States 03/20/2013 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why should the news be allowed to expose him like this? is this right? Quoting: billfountain 32199544 Expose him? I thought you were suggesting there is nothing wrong with it and he shouldn't feel any shame. So which is it, perfectly moral or shameful? Regardless if it's moral or not, it's embarrassing... The news is basically saying "Hey see this guy? He can't get girls on his own so he has to pay them. Now someone go put it on his wiki page so it can be remembered forever." It's now attached to his reputation because society has MADE it something shameful. So I believe the word "expose" is the correct one. I don't think it's perfectly moral (Thanks for putting words in my mouth btw), I simply think it is a victimless crime, and that the whole world doesn't need to know about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36448555 United States 03/20/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really, why? You exchange your physical labor for money everyday don't you. In other words renting out you body.The only people this hurts, are lawyers and politicians, who believe that they are the only ones that can charge people to screw them. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32199544 United States 03/20/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't try to "buy a woman". You're making it sound like slavery. The woman offered sex for money, he accepted, and got busted. I think this is wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32199544 Actually, I've already mentioned that I play poker for a living, so no I do not exchange physical labor for money. |
Debauchery User ID: 15455863 United States 03/20/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ugly fat dudes need love too. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
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PokerStar User ID: 1549066 United States 03/20/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares if he paid a prostitute. Millions of men spend thousands of dollars on their girlfriends and wives each year with the sole purpose on some purchases that it will get them laid. At least hookers are up-front with their business intentions and make it easy by just doing a cash transaction. For a guy like Raymer, it's probably much easier to just pay for it than get on the dating scene, etc. |
Debauchery User ID: 15455863 United States 03/20/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. and if a woman is willing to accept his cash, who's being harmed?? Arresting someone for trying to get a bj..just another way for them to make money. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30867238 United States 03/29/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to abclocal.go.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32199544 I think it's so shameful that this atrocity is now attached to Mr. Greg Raymer's reputation for life. A misdemeanor; a harmless, victimless crime. Who does prostitution hurt? After some research, I found a woman who had this to say: Melissa Farley, PhD of Prostitution Research & Education, argues that prostitution is hardly a victimless crime. In her "Prostitution: Fact sheet on Human Rights Violations" Farley says that prostitution is sexual harassment, rape, battering, verbal abuse, domestic violence, a racist practice, a violation of human rights, childhood sexual abuse, a consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women. Sexual harassment? The woman consented. Rape? The woman consented. Make it legal, then she can make police reports if the man becomes overly-aggressive. Battering? The woman consented. Verbal abuse? Hardly a crime in anyway. Words are just words. Domestic violence? Oh, this only happens during prostitution? Racist practice? Wow, really? The only racist is you, Ms. Farley. Only you would reach that far as to pay acknowledgement towards the races of the people involved. A violation of human rights? THE DAMN WOMAN CONSENTED. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S GETTING HERSELF INTO. AND IF SHE DOESN'T, SHE'LL GROW UP TO BE A PIECE OF SHIT ANYWAY, WHO CARES?? It's not your life. Childhood sexual abuse? What does money have to do with this? Prostitution is different from sex simply because money is involved. If its statutory rape, then its a different story. Whether or not money was involved is irrelevant. A consequence of male domination of women and a means of maintaining male domination of women? Tell you what women, we'll dominate you as a gender, and in return, if a cruise ship is ever sinking, you and the children will be rescued first. Oh wait, that already is happening. By the way, this is Ms. Farley's response to general prostitution. She was not asked about FEMALE PROSTITUTION. She, herself, decided to dominate males over females by only paying acknowledgement towards to males who take advantage of women. It just makes me sick that this harmless crime has extremely hindered this nice guy's reputation. Nothing at all wrong with being a poke'er player....really ;) Seriously, as soon as autonomous robots start rolling out in our society one the first things to do, besides building fembots, would be to replace all the corrupt officials as well that abused the system and jail them for life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30867238 United States 03/29/2013 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why should the news be allowed to expose him like this? is this right? Quoting: billfountain 32199544 It's right and then some. Please elaborate. First of all. A succesful poker player has money. Believes money can buy humans. Tries to buy a woman. Need I elaborate further? He is probably socially retarded. Like all other morons who don't see any wrong in prostitution. MOST don't see anything wrong with sex for money. What would be considered wrong by most if the deed involved acts of violence. That kinda thing is common in 3rd world countries, but not in the west. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 847759 United States 03/29/2013 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [qunote:Anonymous Coward 1211208:MV8yMTc0MTY5XzM2OTYwNTMwX0M2ODRBODNF] Whores don't pay taxes...they want that money....if they paid taxes on earnings we could all be whores... Bingo!!!!!! Untaxed income If it ain't taxed, it's illegal. Main reason pot is illegal, gov aint making no $$ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36848116 United States 03/29/2013 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It should be legal. Two consenting adults, behind closed doors. Who outside knows what happens or why is it their business? I'm totally Libertarian on this issue. As long as no one is being unwillingly hurt, it isn't my concern nor that of the police. I just think it should be kept totally discreet by the parties involved and out of the sight of others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27229787 United States 03/29/2013 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop with the meme that prostitutes are for "fat ugly guys who can't get laid" Men with a lot of success, status and money go to prostitutes because they can afford to indulge. Is Charlie Sheen a fat ugly guy who can't get laid? How about Sting? (seen coming out of a German brothel a few years ago) How about Bill Clinton? (item on a gossip page from a Nevada madam said he was a regular customer) and on and on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27229787 United States 03/29/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and how is this poker player arrested for soliciting prostitution... when there was no prostitute?!?! There was a cop pretending to be one. But no real prostitute. So what prostitute did he solicit exactly? |
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M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 1067150 United States 03/29/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and how is this poker player arrested for soliciting prostitution... when there was no prostitute?!?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787 There was a cop pretending to be one. But no real prostitute. So what prostitute did he solicit exactly? Sounds more like entrapment. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |