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Shadowy_Planet User ID: 39174001 United States 05/02/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, should muslim soldiers still be allowed to praise Allah? what about scientologist soldiers? are they still allowed to praise Tom Cruise? the fact of the matter is, your army is not an army of god's soldier's. they're just soldiers. get over it. |
ceawaves User ID: 20832710 Germany 05/02/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 0bama was born muslim and will be a muslim always.. Why is that so hard for people to understand? He's following Sharia Law, what's so hard to understand about that??? The other night when he told that joke about looking in the mirror.. that was funny, cause it was true! <<< think about it... Last Edited by ceawaves on 05/02/2013 09:22 AM |
Lazy_Dog (OP) User ID: 2386150 United States 05/02/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, should muslim soldiers still be allowed to praise Allah? Quoting: Shadowy_Planet what about scientologist soldiers? are they still allowed to praise Tom Cruise? the fact of the matter is, your army is not an army of god's soldier's. they're just soldiers. get over it. Well for one, I would say that yes it is primarily targeted against Christians. In addition, I do not care which religion it is, last time I checked we had freedom of religion here in the US. It is a sad day when soldier can not express themselves by way of faith, regardless of what that faith is. There is an old saying, "I may not like or believe what you say, I will however defend your right to say it". It appears that this is no longer the case. |
Shadowy_Planet User ID: 39174001 United States 05/02/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, should muslim soldiers still be allowed to praise Allah? Quoting: Shadowy_Planet what about scientologist soldiers? are they still allowed to praise Tom Cruise? the fact of the matter is, your army is not an army of god's soldier's. they're just soldiers. get over it. Well for one, I would say that yes it is primarily targeted against Christians. In addition, I do not care which religion it is, last time I checked we had freedom of religion here in the US. It is a sad day when soldier can not express themselves by way of faith, regardless of what that faith is. There is an old saying, "I may not like or believe what you say, I will however defend your right to say it". It appears that this is no longer the case. your army is not a religious institution. it is a collection of robot sheep. i repeat : get over it. |
Frank Frankson User ID: 24816411 United States 05/02/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course he isn't a fucking christian. None of these people are, they are Satanist and Lucferians. And being christian isn't what you think it is either. Unless you are taking a gnostic perspective on Christ, you are just participating in the same old sun worship which has been here from day one. Last Edited by Frank Frankson on 05/02/2013 09:29 AM |
Lazy_Dog (OP) User ID: 2386150 United States 05/02/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are very few soldiers anywhere in the world that do not practice one religion or another. I am not so sure I would want any army that is pure atheist. It amazes me that one someone mentions religion, they go ape shit in one way or another. Already there are two post telling em to get over it. No I will not get over it. It is not about my faith, but rather their ability to show their faith. Be allowed to become a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or Scientology. Heck I served with someone who practiced Druidism. Now our soldiers can not do that? The very people who are to defend our rights are having theirs taken away? If our soldiers are not allowed the right of freedom of religion, how can we expect them to defend ours. |
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Lazy_Dog (OP) User ID: 10056691 United States 05/02/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, should muslim soldiers still be allowed to praise Allah? Quoting: Shadowy_Planet what about scientologist soldiers? are they still allowed to praise Tom Cruise? the fact of the matter is, your army is not an army of god's soldier's. they're just soldiers. get over it. owned owned? Not really. Yes, Muslims should be allowed to praise Allah, Scientology practitioners praise Tom Cruise, Christians should be allowed to praise Christ. It is about freedom of religion, not this religion or that one. With the new rules soldiers could no longer go to Church, no longer pray in the presence of others, or display their faith. That is the issue, not which faith they practice. I do believe this will apply to Christians more than anyone else though. To forbid a Muslim the same rights would result in being called a fear monger or something. Only Christians can be abused without recourse. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 05/02/2013 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Pentagon released a statement that they will now start to court martial soldiers who display their faith. Quoting: Lazy_Dog From article. The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”. The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith. [link to www.breitbart.com] and let the persecutions begin. Changed the title, it seems more fitting. Did we ever think that we would see Christians persecuted in the United States? Welcome to "change you can believe in." It is time for Christians to leave the military because the military leadership no longer represents the values that we were raised with. How sad... |
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Shadowy_Planet User ID: 39097870 United States 05/02/2013 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Pentagon released a statement that they will now start to court martial soldiers who display their faith. Quoting: Lazy_Dog Yet they have no problem spending tax payers' money with 'in God we trust' (soon to be Allah) printed on it? no. they spend imaginary ones and zeroes....YOU spend the money with "in God we trust" which is a representation of imaginary ones and zeroes... |
ohnonotagain User ID: 39139483 United States 05/02/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am by no means a religtard, but I respect anyone's belief and would defend their right to believe. With that said, I'd say there will be a mass exodus from the military coming soon. "The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering" -Me |
Lazy_Dog (OP) User ID: 2386150 United States 05/02/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, are they discharging all the Chaplin's now? Quoting: ohnonotagain I am by no means a religtard, but I respect anyone's belief and would defend their right to believe. With that said, I'd say there will be a mass exodus from the military coming soon. That is my point and one reason why I said let the persecutions begin. To be court martialed over ones faith because you wear a cross or have a tat? Chaplain's serve a very important role in the US Military. They are more than just preachers. When I was in it was optional to go to Church. Now that is not even an option! Sad, very sad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19980561 United States 05/02/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See this is the problem. We have a Constitutional right to practice religion freely. Believe what we want to believe, exercise that belief. Now the pentagon under Obama's new guy is saying the very people who protect that right can not do it. Quoting: Lazy_Dog There are very few soldiers anywhere in the world that do not practice one religion or another. I am not so sure I would want any army that is pure atheist. It amazes me that one someone mentions religion, they go ape shit in one way or another. Already there are two post telling em to get over it. No I will not get over it. It is not about my faith, but rather their ability to show their faith. Be allowed to become a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or Scientology. Heck I served with someone who practiced Druidism. Now our soldiers can not do that? The very people who are to defend our rights are having theirs taken away? If our soldiers are not allowed the right of freedom of religion, how can we expect them to defend ours. |