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WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree

 
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WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
You know, i have been putting up with these people for a long time. they get more and more invasive and corrupt with every passing month. I am trying to move out of here, and out of the state, too, quite frankly. But, today was so upsetting i am beside myself with irritation.

The managers said that the state housing and finance people are auditing a number of tenants' applications and that mine came up. They are demanding to see proof that my child support is court ordered, and even asked to see my divorce decree outlining visitation with my kid, and other family agreements outlined in the decree (of which i told them no, they have no business asking for that information). I signed a year lease, have been here 6 months, and they keep demanding to see more and more information that has NOTHING to do with a rental agreement. I am not on any public assistance or section 8, and pay max rent.

Are they allowed to do that?
i am so pissed i can't even see straight.
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they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.

hope it works out for ya

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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.
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i receive child support. they want the details about that. why? and why do they keep asking for more info after the lease is signed?
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I would tell the landlord for this 'agency' that wants the info to contact you directly. Then, you can ask THEM why they need this info. Then, ask a lawyer. Most consultations are free.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.
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i receive child support. they want the details about that. why? and why do they keep asking for more info after the lease is signed?
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they have no right to that information ,, your paying your rent and its a contract,, like you said allready signed ! something is not making sense
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Are they allowed to do that?
 Quoting: Salt


No.

Just deny their requests.
They aren't going to evict you, and if they do, you've got a great civil lawsuit you're guaranteed to win.
 Quoting: The Comedian


if i didn't provide the info, they told me it was a lease violation and non-compliance could get me evicted. so i gave them a copy of a support modification that took place a couple years ago. i did NOT give them a copy of my divorce decree.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
I would tell the landlord for this 'agency' that wants the info to contact you directly. Then, you can ask THEM why they need this info. Then, ask a lawyer. Most consultations are free.
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Then, I would tell landlord to go fuck them self.
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Those documents are public record. Tell the to go to the court house and bran them themselves.
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Those documents are public record. Tell the to go to the court house and bran them themselves.
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how much my ex visits my kid is none of their business.
family visitation arrangements are none of their business.

she told me it impinges on the amount of child support.

this is NONE of their business.

i verified my income to rent the place and signed a year lease.

they need to back up.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Are they allowed to do that?
 Quoting: Salt


No.

Just deny their requests.
They aren't going to evict you, and if they do, you've got a great civil lawsuit you're guaranteed to win.
 Quoting: The Comedian


I have rented to people for over 30 years and I have never asked them for any thing other than proof of income when they moved in. Maybe you should find a better landlord.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Are they allowed to do that?
 Quoting: Salt


No.

Just deny their requests.
They aren't going to evict you, and if they do, you've got a great civil lawsuit you're guaranteed to win.
 Quoting: The Comedian


I have rented to people for over 30 years and I have never asked them for any thing other than proof of income when they moved in. Maybe you should find a better landlord.
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i'm working on that.
i have a lease obligation until end of august.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
You know, i have been putting up with these people for a long time. they get more and more invasive and corrupt with every passing month. I am trying to move out of here, and out of the state, too, quite frankly. But, today was so upsetting i am beside myself with irritation.

The managers said that the state housing and finance people are auditing a number of tenants' applications and that mine came up. They are demanding to see proof that my child support is court ordered, and even asked to see my divorce decree outlining visitation with my kid, and other family agreements outlined in the decree (of which i told them no, they have no business asking for that information). I signed a year lease, have been here 6 months, and they keep demanding to see more and more information that has NOTHING to do with a rental agreement. I am not on any public assistance or section 8, and pay max rent.

Are they allowed to do that?
i am so pissed i can't even see straight.
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that is bizarre. deny them everything. they have no right. but why would they even do this in the 1st place is the weirdest
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05/09/2013 01:39 PM
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.
 Quoting: boilerbengal


i receive child support. they want the details about that. why? and why do they keep asking for more info after the lease is signed?
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Nah, fuck that! Even if you were getting some sort of assistance it would be up to that agency & not some nosey fucking apartment manager. Tell they can have their attorneys contact yours.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Are they allowed to do that?
 Quoting: Salt


No.

Just deny their requests.
They aren't going to evict you, and if they do, you've got a great civil lawsuit you're guaranteed to win.
 Quoting: The Comedian


I have rented to people for over 30 years and I have never asked them for any thing other than proof of income when they moved in. Maybe you should find a better landlord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19624091


i'm working on that.
i have a lease obligation until end of august.
 Quoting: Salt




They are trying to drive you out. Probably looking for you to break your lease---its a game. Just smile and say your lawyer will look into it for them....you will get back to them in a while.


Or tell them to kiss your butt, break the lease and pay it out. Look closly at your lease. Im betting you're far from the first one theyve done this to.

As long as you pay your rent, they can't do a thing to you.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they are eviction happy. they find loopholes and put people in the street. i hate this fucking place.

if you get on their bad side, they start with the constant stream of lease violations and threats.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.
 Quoting: boilerbengal


i receive child support. they want the details about that. why? and why do they keep asking for more info after the lease is signed?
 Quoting: Salt


My only guess is that they want to make sure you are "making" the money you claimed you make.it's easy to prove your income on your job,but if that wasn't enough to qualify for the place maybe they want proof of the child support to see that you do qualify?
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Are they allowed to do that?
 Quoting: Salt


No.

Just deny their requests.
They aren't going to evict you, and if they do, you've got a great civil lawsuit you're guaranteed to win.
 Quoting: The Comedian


I have rented to people for over 30 years and I have never asked them for any thing other than proof of income when they moved in. Maybe you should find a better landlord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19624091


i'm working on that.
i have a lease obligation until end of august.
 Quoting: Salt


Stop paying your rent immediately. It will take them 6 months to legally evict you (at least in my state). You get 6 months of rent free accommodations - then move into another place.

You can play just as dirty ...
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i just want to know WHY they need to know if my child support is court ordered or not?

what could the reason for that be? i have established that it is at my lease signing, showed them a disbursement and obligation finding/report.

why did i decide to quit smoking this week?
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Spedificlay who are the state housing and finance people to whom they are referring????

The leasing agents have a copy of the lease which they can provide and the rest of this is garbage when you are not on any dole. It is none of their business and they have no authority to have this middleperson ask for this.

You signed the lease, you have been resident there for six months and by taking residence you accepted the terms and by letting you live there they accepted the terms.

Do not give 'them' anything and report them to whomever you went trough in the lease.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
they have no right,,, if you were receiving any assistance then yes they would.

when my daughter was little i could claim her on unemployment since i payed child support so i did turn over those records. heck that was at least 15 years ago.
 Quoting: boilerbengal


i receive child support. they want the details about that. why? and why do they keep asking for more info after the lease is signed?
 Quoting: Salt


My only guess is that they want to make sure you are "making" the money you claimed you make.it's easy to prove your income on your job,but if that wasn't enough to qualify for the place maybe they want proof of the child support to see that you do qualify?
 Quoting: ThePaleRider77


they can't do that.
they verify it at lease application.
once its verified its done.
they cant keep asking you to verify throughout your lease term.
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specifically and through....oooppps, sorry.
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Pssshhh ignore it...what can they do?
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You should contact the housing authority of your county and detail to them what is going on and ask if they have any right to ask for documents like that. They would be the only ones I know of that could put them in their place.
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Re: WTF? My apartment mgr just demanded to see proof that my child support is court ordered and to see my divorce decree
Spedificlay who are the state housing and finance people to whom they are referring????

The leasing agents have a copy of the lease which they can provide and the rest of this is garbage when you are not on any dole. It is none of their business and they have no authority to have this middleperson ask for this.

You signed the lease, you have been resident there for six months and by taking residence you accepted the terms and by letting you live there they accepted the terms.

Do not give 'them' anything and report them to whomever you went trough in the lease.
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You know, i have been putting up with these people for a long time. they get more and more invasive and corrupt with every passing month. I am trying to move out of here, and out of the state, too, quite frankly. But, today was so upsetting i am beside myself with irritation.

The managers said that the state housing and finance people are auditing a number of tenants' applications and that mine came up. They are demanding to see proof that my child support is court ordered, and even asked to see my divorce decree outlining visitation with my kid, and other family agreements outlined in the decree (of which i told them no, they have no business asking for that information). I signed a year lease, have been here 6 months, and they keep demanding to see more and more information that has NOTHING to do with a rental agreement. I am not on any public assistance or section 8, and pay max rent.

Are they allowed to do that?
i am so pissed i can't even see straight.
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Is your landlord buddies with the Ex? He could be just trying to cause trouble for you.
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i just want to know WHY they need to know if my child support is court ordered or not?

what could the reason for that be? i have established that it is at my lease signing, showed them a disbursement and obligation finding/report.

why did i decide to quit smoking this week?
 Quoting: Salt


I will try to help you as best I can. First, what state are you in? Do you receive any kind of state or government assistance? Is the lease signed and did you fabricate anything on the lease? Is your ex contacting the lease office and asking permission to go into your apartment? are you attempting to break the lease early? There are a lot of personal questions on here, if you want to send me a private message I will respond that way.
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You know, i have been putting up with these people for a long time. they get more and more invasive and corrupt with every passing month. I am trying to move out of here, and out of the state, too, quite frankly. But, today was so upsetting i am beside myself with irritation.

The managers said that the state housing and finance people are auditing a number of tenants' applications and that mine came up. They are demanding to see proof that my child support is court ordered, and even asked to see my divorce decree outlining visitation with my kid, and other family agreements outlined in the decree (of which i told them no, they have no business asking for that information). I signed a year lease, have been here 6 months, and they keep demanding to see more and more information that has NOTHING to do with a rental agreement. I am not on any public assistance or section 8, and pay max rent.

Are they allowed to do that?
i am so pissed i can't even see straight.
 Quoting: Salt


Is your landlord buddies with the Ex? He could be just trying to cause trouble for you.
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gawd no.
this is a huge property management corporation based out of Calif.
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Those documents are public record. Tell the to go to the court house and bran them themselves.
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i verified my income to rent the place and signed a year lease.

they need to back up.
 Quoting: Salt

Technically they should have verified prior to you renting the place. If they verified your income already then there is no need, yet it sounds like someone dropped the ball and didn't do their job in the first place. You should have had to supply all that prior to moving in and signing a lease. The state you live in sucks, it is also my state. Sounds like the apartment complex can make more money renting to people who receive state assistance.
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Spedificlay who are the state housing and finance people to whom they are referring????

The leasing agents have a copy of the lease which they can provide and the rest of this is garbage when you are not on any dole. It is none of their business and they have no authority to have this middleperson ask for this.

You signed the lease, you have been resident there for six months and by taking residence you accepted the terms and by letting you live there they accepted the terms.

Do not give 'them' anything and report them to whomever you went trough in the lease.
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.com

That is not a state or government organization, it is a company. Deny them everything and when they evict you, file a suit. Based on the information given you would win hands-down.
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what has helped some of my friends with ridiculous employers,nieghbours etc is get a lawyer to write them a letter,it didn't cost much for just that appointment,and it certainly stopped some people risking worse to come,or scared them.i don't know if that would help in your situation.but I allways tape authorities I see now.i know it's illegal to not tell them,but fed up with twisted bast^&$£$s,better luck on moving.
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