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hannah50
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Thank you for a thoughtful and informative reply.

So, some visitations were supervised by the daughter he was accused of molesting? Because as we know, it's not this current 6 year old he's accused of molesting, but his first daughter. And visitation rights under the supervision also of the brother - the brother that touched her.

Ok, then we find the first daughter retracted her accusations (but still somehow he was found guilty of *something*, enough to get him 6 years). So, maybe he did molest her or maybe not now, since her retraction.

In the information you provided below on some of the allegations the mother is charged with, they sorta pale in comparison with molesting ones own daughter, though good to note nonetheless for assessments sake. I'm sure we all know that there *are* substances available at head shops to help one bypass a drug test. Just a random thought.

Why is the daughter who first claimed abuse then retracted a viable candidate for visitation supervision? That's questionable as hell right there. As well as the brother accused of touching Sarah. Unless there are other siblings I missed, this really smells.

Interestingly, the mother remarried shortly after she divorced Elizondo in 2007. She could have had the step-father adopt.

The pleadings state that he started having visitation in 2012 supervised by either his adult daughter or adult son. The visitation became unsupervised in early 2013. The mother refused to cooperate in getting the minor child there for visits, facilitating the internet visitation that was ordered, that the mother had been living in the home with relatives, who she later accused of threatening her when they filed for guardianship of the minor child after she ended up in a homeless shelter with the child. Child Welfare has apparently been involved in the case, so there has been at least one if not more investigations of the parties. Their findings would have played a part in the judge's decision. Additionally, she had accused him of using drugs, he passed a drug test, at which time she was to reimburse him for the costs of the test which she has not done. So, were her accusations considered perjorative by the court and did it affect the court's perception of her credibility? Perhaps. Additionally she has recently been approved for social security disability. One wonders about the nature of her disability, perhaps she has a mental health diagnosis or a seriously physically debilitating condition that precludes her from being able to effectively care for the child.

As some posters here have said we were not there, did not hear the testimony and don't have all the facts. However, the mother has the option of appealing the judge's decision to a higher court who could then reverse the lower court's decision and return custody to the mother. The case is not necessarily over.

I am rather surprised given the facts regarding both parents and those relatives didn't refile their petition for guardianship and request custody of the little girl.
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Call the judges office personally to let them know what you think of this ruling, i just did!

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he has to register as a pediophile, and the little girl is the one that is going to have to live with this in school, with the other children teasing her. This is the cruelest thing i think i have ever heard that anyone has done to an innocent child. Her life has been deliberately destroyed by a child of Satan, the judge (these suckers are so evil, itis unbelievable).

Evil is taking over so fast, we cannot keep up with it, not even enough to protect our children. What have we done to deserve this





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Notice the creepy, folks. Right here in River City.
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Are they Chinese too?
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I don't know if you are Chinese, but you sure are creeping me out.

Personal threats, solicitations for first names, support of bad people...I just hope you haven't hurt anyone.
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I think I got you first time round.

Since it's pretty obvious that I'm talking to the organ grinders chief monkey, you know what?...

Nothing. You disgust me. You fucking traitor.
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Evil is taking over so fast, we cannot keep up with it, not even enough to protect our children. What have we done to deserve this
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It's that we have done nothing to stop it.
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I saw what you did there. ;)

Right here in River City.
Trouble with a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "P" and that stands for pool!


Notice the creepy, folks. Right here in River City.
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Notice the creepy, folks. Right here in River City.
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Are they Chinese too?
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I don't know if you are Chinese, but you sure are creeping me out.

Personal threats, solicitations for first names, support of bad people...I just hope you haven't hurt anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


I think I got you first time round.

Since it's pretty obvious that I'm talking to the organ grinders chief monkey, you know what?...

Nothing. You disgust me. You fucking traitor.
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Look, it's the next shill tactic...right out of the handbooK!
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sounds like Oklahoma has a corrupt politician oh
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Are they Chinese too?
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I don't know if you are Chinese, but you sure are creeping me out.

Personal threats, solicitations for first names, support of bad people...I just hope you haven't hurt anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


I think I got you first time round.

Since it's pretty obvious that I'm talking to the organ grinders chief monkey, you know what?...

Nothing. You disgust me. You fucking traitor.
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Look, it's the next shill tactic...right out of the handbooK!
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ohnoesitsabotwhateva

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But I have to know:

What is the organ grinders chief monkey?

What am I alleged to have been traitorous too?

Who is the female police officer you mentioned before?

Really. Curious.
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I don't understand why the mother,Lisa Knight,EVER got into a relationship, married and had a child with a person who was a convicted pedophile in the first place!

He was convicted in 1995.

She must have known this when she decided to marry him and have a child with him. (The child that is now 6.)

If she didn't know, she is an idiot.
Most likely she DID know, and is therefore an even bigger idiot for marrying a convicted pedophile and then having a child with him.

WTF?
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Say that to the McMartin parents. I respect your message, but really people have, and do try. Read up on the McMartin child molestation trial - the parents fought tooth and nail and were still told by the system that they were in need of therapy, delusional, lying...the organized underground of pedophilia won. Even though the parents found the tunnels under the school that the children spoke of.

Bill Medley's ex-wife was murdered hours after dropping their son off at the school. One has to wonder what she walked in on.

An ongoing and recent thread here. Fiona IS a hero fighting, and many other's do too.
Thread: Elite PEDOPHILE Ring/SRA/MK-Ultra WHISTLEBLOWER

Evil is taking over so fast, we cannot keep up with it, not even enough to protect our children. What have we done to deserve this
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It's that we have done nothing to stop it.
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The sexual pervert deserves a bullet in his skull.
The mother should make it happen.
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Say that to the McMartin parents. I respect your message, but really people have, and do try. Read up on the McMartin child molestation trial - the parents fought tooth and nail and were still told by the system that they were in need of therapy, delusional, lying...the organized underground of pedophilia won. Even though the parents found the tunnels under the school that the children spoke of.

Bill Medley's ex-wife was murdered hours after dropping their son off at the school. One has to wonder what she walked in on.

An ongoing and recent thread here. Fiona IS a hero fighting, and many other's do too.
Thread: Elite PEDOPHILE Ring/SRA/MK-Ultra WHISTLEBLOWER

Evil is taking over so fast, we cannot keep up with it, not even enough to protect our children. What have we done to deserve this
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It's that we have done nothing to stop it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539

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It's individuals against a system. Not that people here and there don't try, it's that there isn't really a sustained, serious, broad based and legally supported real solution. It's something that could be changed, but lots of people would have to work together, across other (media enraged) topics.
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Yaay, long live democracy !5a

Seriously, I'm thinking about calling the number & get my mouth dirty with american internal affairs, because this is not fuckin right.

And yeah, 6 years for a rapist is not enough ; hence a pedophile who raped his own daughter ! 20 years is a good start. 6 years will only make him more horny & eager to rape her again.
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Call the judges office personally to let them know what you think of this ruling, i just did!

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bumpbumpbump


clappa
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Are we allowed to curse and say something like 'WTF ARE YOU THINKING? WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS?"

or will that put me on a hit list?
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Call the judges office personally to let them know what you think of this ruling, i just did!

405-789-2000
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bumpbumpbump


clappa
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Are we allowed to curse and say something like 'WTF ARE YOU THINKING? WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS?"

or will that put me on a hit list?
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Just remember, the person answering the phone isn't the one who made the decision. She probably even agrees with you, but the receptionist can't do jack. Just saying.
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He raped his 6-year-old daughter,
servered 6 years in jail,
so his daughter is now 12 right?

So this other daughter, Sarah, the 6-year-old is a different girl? or is it the same girls whose 12 now?

Confused.
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He raped his 6-year-old daughter,
servered 6 years in jail,
so his daughter is now 12 right?

So this other daughter, Sarah, the 6-year-old is a different girl? or is it the same girls whose 12 now?

Confused.
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He got the mom pregnant before he went to jail for raping a different 6 year old. So his kid is 6, now. And she's his, by court order.
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For Hannah50:

It is my understanding that he molested his step-daughter. If it was another daughter I don't think she would be of an age yet to supervise visitation. The pleadings appear to refer to adult children that were from an earlier relationship unrelated to the sexual abuse allegations. The boy who may have inappropriately touched her is another child with another woman and appears to be a minor. These people get around. It is so common these days for people to have serial relationships, many of which produce children. Very unstable. We are not living in a Ward and June Cleaver world anymore, if we ever did. I rather like to think we might have, for a while anyway.
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Ha! I guess we 'trusted' in CPS, right? Our bad. And I'm not being derogatory towards your post...just sayin' we have agencies in place that are SUPPOSED to watch out for the welfare of children in these sorts of situations. We as citizens are obligated to report any SUSPECTED abuse. We don't even need proof, only the suspicion! And they'll take care of the rest. Yes, you have a good point. "They" are taking care of it, and the collective "we" are not.

Fiona is doing an amazing job at blasting it across her community and getting it on the internet.

I tell ya what, you start the organization and I'll sign up and write the letters....and protest in the street.

peace

Say that to the McMartin parents. I respect your message, but really people have, and do try. Read up on the McMartin child molestation trial - the parents fought tooth and nail and were still told by the system that they were in need of therapy, delusional, lying...the organized underground of pedophilia won. Even though the parents found the tunnels under the school that the children spoke of.

Bill Medley's ex-wife was murdered hours after dropping their son off at the school. One has to wonder what she walked in on.

An ongoing and recent thread here. Fiona IS a hero fighting, and many other's do too.
Thread: Elite PEDOPHILE Ring/SRA/MK-Ultra WHISTLEBLOWER

Evil is taking over so fast, we cannot keep up with it, not even enough to protect our children. What have we done to deserve this
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It's that we have done nothing to stop it.
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 Quoting: hannah50


It's individuals against a system. Not that people here and there don't try, it's that there isn't really a sustained, serious, broad based and legally supported real solution. It's something that could be changed, but lots of people would have to work together, across other (media enraged) topics.
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He raped his 6-year-old daughter,
servered 6 years in jail,
so his daughter is now 12 right?

So this other daughter, Sarah, the 6-year-old is a different girl? or is it the same girls whose 12 now?

Confused.
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He got the mom pregnant before he went to jail for raping a different 6 year old. So his kid is 6, now. And she's his, by court order.
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WOW. that is so fucked up. Hide yo kids...
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This is a very sad tale full of ugly.

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Elizondo was facing 11 felony charges of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14, but 10 of those were dismissed in exchange for Elizondo pleading no contest to one charge.


Father has a harelip, daughter has a cleft pallet. Uh oh...look for these names in the future. Sad, sad, sad. Bad, dirty, blackmailed judges. Humans truly are the shit of this planet.
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Ha! I guess we 'trusted' in CPS, right? Our bad. And I'm not being derogatory towards your post...just sayin' we have agencies in place that are SUPPOSED to watch out for the welfare of children in these sorts of situations. We as citizens are obligated to report any SUSPECTED abuse. We don't even need proof, only the suspicion! And they'll take care of the rest. Yes, you have a good point. "They" are taking care of it, and the collective "we" are not.

Fiona is doing an amazing job at blasting it across her community and getting it on the internet.

I tell ya what, you start the organization and I'll sign up and write the letters....and protest in the street.

peace

Say that to the McMartin parents. I respect your message, but really people have, and do try. Read up on the McMartin child molestation trial - the parents fought tooth and nail and were still told by the system that they were in need of therapy, delusional, lying...the organized underground of pedophilia won. Even though the parents found the tunnels under the school that the children spoke of.

Bill Medley's ex-wife was murdered hours after dropping their son off at the school. One has to wonder what she walked in on.

An ongoing and recent thread here. Fiona IS a hero fighting, and many other's do too.
Thread: Elite PEDOPHILE Ring/SRA/MK-Ultra WHISTLEBLOWER

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It's that we have done nothing to stop it.
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It's individuals against a system. Not that people here and there don't try, it's that there isn't really a sustained, serious, broad based and legally supported real solution. It's something that could be changed, but lots of people would have to work together, across other (media enraged) topics.
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You're cool. Thanks for letting me know at least some people here care. Details to follow.
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Personally, I believe lots of the judges are pedophiles, or at least sympathetic to pedophiles. This is not the first type of thing in Oklahoma.
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Pedos are swarming in the upper echelons of society, judges, politicians, business men.

Over here convicted pedos (thats "served their time" but we all know there's no such thing as served their time with this crime) may work in schools, daycare centers etc.
Pedopoliticians and and other pedos made sure of that.
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OKLAHOMA CITY — In California, just six years ago, Nicholas Elizondo was convicted for raping his then six-year-old daughter. He took a deal and served six years in jail. During that time his ex-wife, Lisa Knight, has been raising their daughter Sarah in Norman.

After six years of little contact with Sarah, he started fighting for sole custody. Yesterday, he won.

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Personally, I believe lots of the judges are pedophiles, or at least sympathetic to pedophiles. This is not the first type of thing in Oklahoma.
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Pedos are swarming in the upper echelons of society, judges, politicians, business men.

Over here convicted pedos (thats "served their time" but we all know there's no such thing as served their time with this crime) may work in schools, daycare centers etc.
Pedopoliticians and and other pedos made sure of that.
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New record low. Fucking hell.
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He raped his 6-year-old daughter,
servered 6 years in jail,
so his daughter is now 12 right?

So this other daughter, Sarah, the 6-year-old is a different girl? or is it the same girls whose 12 now?

Confused.
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The girl he molested was his 6 year old STEP daughter.

The one he is getting custody of is his own biological 6 year old daughter.

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Pedos are swarming in the upper echelons of society, judges, politicians, business men.

Over here convicted pedos (thats "served their time" but we all know there's no such thing as served their time with this crime) may work in schools, daycare centers etc.
Pedopoliticians and and other pedos made sure of that.
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Comic Book Conventions:

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One of its godfathers, Edward Kramer, was arrested in 2000 in Georgia and charged with three counts of child molestation involving two teenage brothers. Owing to a series of legal maneuvers and health issues, Kramer has never been tried in criminal court, and after finally being allowed to post bond in 2009, he was even free to travel. That was until he was arrested in Connecticut in 2011 on charges of “risk of injury to a minor” after being found in a hotel room with a 14 year old, a violation of his bond agreement. Extradited back to Georgia last month, he is awaiting trial on the original charges.
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after reading the article it seems like the lawyer for the "father" and the judge were in cohorts.
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The dad, the judge and the lawyer may run in the same pedophile ring?
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Ok, I'm fucking lost now.

1. Step daughter (molested, then retracted)
2. Sarah, (bio daughter) he's just won custody of
3. An older daughter that supervised visits (born prior to #1)???

4. A son that touched Sarah while she was visiting CA
5. A son before this that supervised visitation rights

Is this the layout of siblings? Please correct if wrong.

For Hannah50:

It is my understanding that he molested his step-daughter. If it was another daughter I don't think she would be of an age yet to supervise visitation. The pleadings appear to refer to adult children that were from an earlier relationship unrelated to the sexual abuse allegations. The boy who may have inappropriately touched her is another child with another woman and appears to be a minor. These people get around. It is so common these days for people to have serial relationships, many of which produce children. Very unstable. We are not living in a Ward and June Cleaver world anymore, if we ever did. I rather like to think we might have, for a while anyway.
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