The Ten commandments,...do they opress freedom or safegard it? | |
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anonymous coward User ID: 39261030 United States 06/29/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suppose you were starting a new society of people - what rules would make up as basic rules for them to live by in a group? Would you make up rules or just have rule by jungle? I think people would like other people to live by rules but they don't want their desires infringed upon - which sounds like most children I know. How would you model a starting over group? |
DGN (OP) User ID: 34798113 United States 06/29/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 10 commandments are really about how to treat each other Quoting: anonymous coward 39261030 Suppose you were starting a new society of people - what rules would make up as basic rules for them to live by in a group? Would you make up rules or just have rule by jungle? I think people would like other people to live by rules but they don't want their desires infringed upon - which sounds like most children I know. How would you model a starting over group? Like this; "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell upon their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! The blessing and the glory and the wisdom and the thanksgiving and the honor and the power and the strength [be] to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” Rv7:9 |
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DGN (OP) User ID: 34798113 United States 06/29/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wouldn't it be great if only everybody else had to keep the code.... but not self? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42392730 United States 06/30/2013 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, the boogy men, dark secret forces, who everyone blames for everything. |
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DGN (OP) User ID: 34798113 United States 06/30/2013 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the ten commandments are split in two parts it is basic logic to see which pertain to religious worship - these opress freedom and which pertain to Universal Human Rights (you shall not kill etc.) - these safeguard freedom guess what the mix does :) The mix protects those who apply it from socially destructive entrapment by Satan, and the rival godship he established in Eden; " We know that every [person] that has been born from God does not practice sin, but the One born from God watches him, and the wicked one does not fasten his hold on him. 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols." 1Jo5:18 |
andreidita User ID: 41406462 Romania 06/30/2013 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mix protects those who apply it from socially destructive entrapment by Satan, and the rival godship he established in Eden; Quoting: DGN " We know that every [person] that has been born from God does not practice sin, but the One born from God watches him, and the wicked one does not fasten his hold on him. 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols." 1Jo5:18 True. And as long One knows which is the True God referred in the spirit there, it is a great safe-guard. But at those times there were Men of God which guided and showed to the people what the One True God means. They were Living Examples of what it means to follow the One True God. TOday is a little more complicated. For only the text of a book is not enough to show the way. And precisely because of this the rival godship can lead many astray by impersonating the 'one true god' in the letter of the law, but never in Its Spirit. And if one learns to see the Spirit in things, behind the letter, then one shall know the One True GOd |
doktor User ID: 42527601 United States 06/30/2013 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very simple: The 10 commandments are a great guide for life. We as a species are prone to mistakes, failures and violence through are tough processes. Whether a person believes in God or not it is there choice, with that being said, as humans we should not group people nor prematurely judge people by looks, race or their life choices. If we all treated each other as we would like to be treated we would not be were the world is today. Tolerance and acceptance vs judgement and hate. |
DGN (OP) User ID: 34798113 United States 06/30/2013 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mix protects those who apply it from socially destructive entrapment by Satan, and the rival godship he established in Eden; Quoting: DGN " We know that every [person] that has been born from God does not practice sin, but the One born from God watches him, and the wicked one does not fasten his hold on him. 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols." 1Jo5:18 True. And as long One knows which is the True God referred in the spirit there, it is a great safe-guard. But at those times there were Men of God which guided and showed to the people what the One True God means. They were Living Examples of what it means to follow the One True God. TOday is a little more complicated. For only the text of a book is not enough to show the way. And precisely because of this the rival godship can lead many astray by impersonating the 'one true god' in the letter of the law, but never in Its Spirit. And if one learns to see the Spirit in things, behind the letter, then one shall know the One True GOd Only one has spoken to all mankind, identifying himself as creator, providing our history back to the beginning, revealing the cause of our failure to achieve global Eden, his requirements of all who he invites to a second chance, and the final outcome. No other 'god', meaning demonic rivals offer anything; "YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand." Isa43;10 |
MHz User ID: 42240933 Canada 06/30/2013 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They did give Jesus a standard to go by (as well as the 600 other laws) so the cross was a death of a sinless man. Last Edited by MHz on 06/30/2013 11:37 AM |
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andreidita User ID: 41406462 Romania 06/30/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only one has spoken to all mankind, identifying himself as creator, providing our history back to the beginning, revealing the cause of our failure to achieve global Eden, his requirements of all who he invites to a second chance, and the final outcome. No other 'god', meaning demonic rivals offer anything; Quoting: DGN "YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand." Isa43;10 and you base this on what exactly? many has spoken to mankind and many still do obama when he received the nobel for peace addressed de facto all humankind and as the Original Creator has his ways to address mankind so has the rival godhead. look around to how the world is now and you know very well which voice whispers stronger in the minds and hearts of most humans and you will gonna tell me that you Know to make the difference between the One which IS True, and the one which only pretends to be, but is not by blindly following the letter of the book? |
Undestroyer Truth User ID: 17087125 United States 06/30/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Common sense/sage advice. The path to living a full life. Take Zimmerman for example... thou shall not kill.... justified or not Zimmerman is going through hell right now. If he just would have shot Travon in the dick or something his situation wouldnt be as bad. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
DGN (OP) User ID: 34798113 United States 06/30/2013 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only one has spoken to all mankind, identifying himself as creator, providing our history back to the beginning, revealing the cause of our failure to achieve global Eden, his requirements of all who he invites to a second chance, and the final outcome. No other 'god', meaning demonic rivals offer anything; Quoting: DGN "YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand." Isa43;10 and you base this on what exactly? many has spoken to mankind and many still do obama when he received the nobel for peace addressed de facto all humankind and as the Original Creator has his ways to address mankind so has the rival godhead. look around to how the world is now and you know very well which voice whispers stronger in the minds and hearts of most humans and you will gonna tell me that you Know to make the difference between the One which IS True, and the one which only pretends to be, but is not by blindly following the letter of the book? No, by the unity of Jehovah's international spiritual nation which has already overcome the political/religious/racial rivalries that become the death stroke of this feuding world; "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell upon their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! The blessing and the glory and the wisdom and the thanksgiving and the honor and the power and the strength [be] to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” "Rv7:9 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39710484 Germany 06/30/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only one has spoken to all mankind, identifying himself as creator, providing our history back to the beginning, revealing the cause of our failure to achieve global Eden, his requirements of all who he invites to a second chance, and the final outcome. No other 'god', meaning demonic rivals offer anything; Quoting: DGN "YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand." Isa43;10 and you base this on what exactly? many has spoken to mankind and many still do obama when he received the nobel for peace addressed de facto all humankind and as the Original Creator has his ways to address mankind so has the rival godhead. look around to how the world is now and you know very well which voice whispers stronger in the minds and hearts of most humans and you will gonna tell me that you Know to make the difference between the One which IS True, and the one which only pretends to be, but is not by blindly following the letter of the book? No, by the unity of Jehovah's international spiritual nation which has already overcome the political/religious/racial rivalries that become the death stroke of this feuding world; "After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell upon their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! The blessing and the glory and the wisdom and the thanksgiving and the honor and the power and the strength [be] to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” "Rv7:9 You are such a lost cause please stop posting... |