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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41018560 United States 07/06/2013 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a big deal. people with depression and anxiety are lied to and poisoned. this is a vulnerable population - you know, not feeling their best - then wham! gotcha. and it's called medication management of mental illness. sick. let's go for mental wellness and say FUCK IT to the pharmaceutical criminals. |
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natasha77 User ID: 35682194 United States 07/06/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh yes, the magical wellbutrin. I was put on that for nerves and almost died from violent episodes of vomiting daily. Then another time I wanted to quit smoking. Dr gave me Rx said it would help. Zyban? I think. Anyway, I almost died from that, come to find out it was WELBUTRIN in disguise. Some Dr tried recently to push it on my husband. I dumped them down the toilet and demanded something else for him. I hope they bring a class action lawsuit, I will jump on that wagon for sure. PS. I know I shouldn't have dumped them in the toilet. I don't know why I did that. Last Edited by natasha77 on 07/06/2013 11:46 AM SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY! I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour. |
stillhere User ID: 29204297 United States 07/06/2013 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, this is good information and people should know what goes on, yet in this day and age when almost anyone can research the FDA, drugs and the whole medical establishment, it doesn't take much research to know that drugs to treat depression is is likely to give the patient a lifetime of woe. Nutrition, vitamins, exercise, sunlight, Vitamin D, .....the side effects of anti depressants alone should send sane people running for cover. Depression is real, people need treatment, yet drug therapy is a poor excuse for not bothering to get to the root of the problem and solving the issue. Your Dr. or even your Vet, is trained to prescribe drugs, and administer vaccines. The side effects will have you back in their offices for more drugs. (until you die). Not knocking Dr.'s but their training. I guess you could add dentists in who tell you mercury is safe as well as fluoride. This seems to be a timeline of stubborn people who refuse to see what is in front of their eyes and are having a most difficult time waking up. At this rate I shudder to think what it will take to wake people up who have been snoozing this long. "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
DawaSatso User ID: 42521034 United States 07/06/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Generics contain unnamed components that even pharmacists can't find to reference...even they have no idea what is in generics they dispense. This is how they operate flying blind and this informational deep canyon doesn't phase them. It's all based on TRUST with them. I just got off the phone with a fantastically uncurious pharmacist. I use one pharma and that is an eyedrop for glaucoma I've used since '94. ($114 for 1/8th tsp bottle 1 month) Now that my insurance charges a penalty for brand name I then accepted the "new" generic. I thought the daily 6 hour dull headaches were sinus and the Blue Windows in my visual field were just a passing thing. Pharmacist: "It must be you, nobody else is having problems" Mind you based on ZERO information what their generic contains. I went back to name brand/penalty and symptoms vanished within a day. This is one small occasion among so many cumulative ones that fill me with helpless rage about this country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32121112 United States 07/06/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For clarification, the excerpt quoted in your post refers to the recall happening "last week", but the linked article is from October 2012. Has there been a new development on the story? |
DawaSatso User ID: 42521034 United States 07/06/2013 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is 25% list for Wellbutrin XL so who can IMAGINE what side effects are from generic Wellbutrin: Pancreatitis Severe Muscle Problems that cause Abnormal Movement Severe Heart Attack Severe Abnormal Heart Rhythm Severe Hepatitis Severe Hepatitis caused by Drugs Severe Erythema Multiforme Severe Stevens-Johnson Syndrome Severe Hallucination Severe Seizures Severe A Feeling of Restlessness with Inability to Sit Still Severe Voluntary Movement Difficulty Severe Abnormal Liver Function Tests Severe Life Threatening Allergic Reaction Severe Giant Hives Severe Allergic Reaction caused by a Drug Severe Syndrome of Inappropriate Antidiuretic Hormone Secretion Severe Behaving with Excessive Cheerfulness and Activity Severe Delusions Severe Paranoia Severe Mental Disorder with Loss of Normal Personality & Reality Severe Suicidal Severe Having Thoughts of Suicide Severe Thoughts of Hurting or Killing Others Severe Aggressive Behavior Less Severe Feeling Anger Toward Something Less Severe Problem Behavior Less Severe Bleeding Not Related to Menstrual Period Less Severe Sun-Sensitive Skin Less Severe Feeling Faint Less Severe Taste Problems Less Severe Puffy Face from Water Retention Less Severe Trouble Breathing Less Severe Urination During the Night Less Severe Panic Disorder Less Severe False Sense of Well-Being Last Edited by DawaSatso on 07/06/2013 01:02 PM |
Fhirinne (OP) User ID: 17348671 United Kingdom 07/06/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Generics contain unnamed components that even pharmacists can't find to reference...even they have no idea what is in generics they dispense. This is how they operate flying blind and this informational deep canyon doesn't phase them. Quoting: DawaSatso It's all based on TRUST with them. I just got off the phone with a fantastically uncurious pharmacist. I use one pharma and that is an eyedrop for glaucoma I've used since '94. ($114 for 1/8th tsp bottle 1 month) Now that my insurance charges a penalty for brand name I then accepted the "new" generic. I thought the daily 6 hour dull headaches were sinus and the Blue Windows in my visual field were just a passing thing. Pharmacist: "It must be you, nobody else is having problems" Mind you based on ZERO information what their generic contains. I went back to name brand/penalty and symptoms vanished within a day. This is one small occasion among so many cumulative ones that fill me with helpless rage about this country. Reading that just blew me away on two counts! I had no idea that the generics of drugs were different chemical makeups and had no clue people could face penalties for brand name drugs. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
Fhirinne (OP) User ID: 17348671 United Kingdom 07/06/2013 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of doing its own study on the drug, the FDA asked the drug maker to conduct a study to determine whether the generic drug was equivalent to the brand. The FDA, in their recent press release, claims that Teva started the trial but later abandoned it because of slow patient enrollment. It was already 2010, several years after knowing there was a problem, the FDA was forced to do its own study. Quoting: Fhirinne This story needs to go viral just because of this part above IMO! Drug makers doing their own safety studies thats just a (Red Alert) if I ever heard one. It's on par with GLP Uncle stuff or posting without a link, it don't fly in the real world but these freaks seem to think it does. Hell I've read reports of emails to and fro from the drug maker to the FDA about missing safety data concerning their drug, to which the drug maker replyed to the FDA saying we will get the missing data to you after the drug is put on the market and jaw dropping the FDA was fine about that. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
DawaSatso User ID: 42521034 United States 07/06/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of doing its own study on the drug, the FDA asked the drug maker to conduct a study to determine whether the generic drug was equivalent to the brand. The FDA, in their recent press release, claims that Teva started the trial but later abandoned it because of slow patient enrollment. It was already 2010, several years after knowing there was a problem, the FDA was forced to do its own study. Quoting: Fhirinne This story needs to go viral just because of this part above IMO! Drug makers doing their own safety studies thats just a (Red Alert) if I ever heard one. It's on par with GLP Uncle stuff or posting without a link, it don't fly in the real world but these freaks seem to think it does. Hell I've read reports of emails to and fro from the drug maker to the FDA about missing safety data concerning their drug, to which the drug maker replyed to the FDA saying we will get the missing data to you after the drug is put on the market and jaw dropping the FDA was fine about that. Tip o' the iceberg, OP. Generic makers are slobs second only to enforced regulations/testing/standards loose as a bridge made of rubber bands. Food/drug/ingredients are far more frequently outsourced to china and the like as well. Not regulated until they're caught as well as a recent eastern u.s. lab got shut down filled with black mold and accumulated filth. Tells you how lax even cursory inspections are. If there's one there's many more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3123453 United States 07/06/2013 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like everything else in the world A front org Those who depend on these drugs are the real losers their lives are a living hell and cut way short If you are dependent on big pharma for drugs to live you had better rethink your positions and start living a clean drug free life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42639944 United States 07/06/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was on a sleep aide, for years. One month it didn't seem to work, so I mentioned it to her. She then said who ever puts in the lowest bid, gets the contract for the med. They may not always work the same. She was honest. However imagine if it happened to someone on a life saving med! What really pisses me off is there are cures for every disease! It's about letting ppl die in order to make money! Major diseases were intentionally introduced into the world then saying there is no cure. These ppl are not human! |
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Éireann User ID: 42913617 United States 07/06/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh dear. I take the generic SR 150mg of this drug. Oh dear. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21351810 United States 07/06/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of doing its own study on the drug, the FDA asked the drug maker to conduct a study to determine whether the generic drug was equivalent to the brand. The FDA, in their recent press release, claims that Teva started the trial but later abandoned it because of slow patient enrollment. It was already 2010, several years after knowing there was a problem, the FDA was forced to do its own study. Quoting: Fhirinne This story needs to go viral just because of this part above IMO! Drug makers doing their own safety studies thats just a (Red Alert) if I ever heard one. It's on par with GLP Uncle stuff or posting without a link, it don't fly in the real world but these freaks seem to think it does. Hell I've read reports of emails to and fro from the drug maker to the FDA about missing safety data concerning their drug, to which the drug maker replyed to the FDA saying we will get the missing data to you after the drug is put on the market and jaw dropping the FDA was fine about that. The drug companies do their own safety studies because the cost is on them. But ALL studies are *monitored* by outside sources (they're, literally, called "monitors"). I used to conduct drug studies and the drug company itself does not validate the study...there are monitors that come in, literally, every single week, to run extensive audits on all the data that's being gathered, all the inventory, etc. And the studies being run at that level are double-blind, meaning the researchers themselves do not know placebos vs. study drug, etc. (actually, even the reseaechers, themselves, do not even work for the drug companies. My pay checks were NOT signed by the drug companies, we were a contract company that did studies for many different drug companies, ones with even competing products). So all the studies are, literally, policed by outside contractors who have nothing to do with the pharmaceutical company at all. It keeps the process ethical, without conflict of interest. And this is how they are able to then publish their results. Good article though, OP!! I think the fact that generics may not be as effective as name brands, and are not independently validated, is a HUGE story!!! |
sadhuman User ID: 2790080 United States 07/06/2013 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm amazed anyone still trusts any federal anything. The medical industry and big pharma, are only interested in moving your money from you, to them. I have avoided the whole lot for more than two decades, and at 44 I'm healthier than almost everyone I know, of any age. The youth are so sickly and "need pills for X" I never took care of myself, the only thing I did was avoid "medicine". "All people are my people" |
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Éireann User ID: 42913617 United States 07/06/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have, Tasha. I've been on it for 10 years. I've asked repeatedly to be taken off of all three they have me on because I'm allergic to Gabapentin and all of my meds have traces of it in them. The Effexor is the worse one. When I wake up in the morning, it's already worn off and I'm so confused and disoriented. It takes me two hours in the morning after I take my meds just to feel normal. How in the hell is this good? How am I ever going to be able to hold down a real job? Every doctor I've had has told me there is nothing else to treat my disease. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42827777 United States 07/06/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, this is good information and people should know what goes on, yet in this day and age when almost anyone can research the FDA, drugs and the whole medical establishment, it doesn't take much research to know that drugs to treat depression is is likely to give the patient a lifetime of woe. Quoting: stillhere Nutrition, vitamins, exercise, sunlight, Vitamin D, .....the side effects of anti depressants alone should send sane people running for cover. Depression is real, people need treatment, yet drug therapy is a poor excuse for not bothering to get to the root of the problem and solving the issue. Your Dr. or even your Vet, is trained to prescribe drugs, and administer vaccines. The side effects will have you back in their offices for more drugs. (until you die). Not knocking Dr.'s but their training. I guess you could add dentists in who tell you mercury is safe as well as fluoride. This seems to be a timeline of stubborn people who refuse to see what is in front of their eyes and are having a most difficult time waking up. At this rate I shudder to think what it will take to wake people up who have been snoozing this long. Tell a person with bi-polar depression that it's just a matter of supplements and working on their issues. No offense but that is ignorance. |
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