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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44387513 United States 08/01/2013 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By my tone of writing, you may think I'm a believer in your previously until now (you read the word scientist in a rag article published by hacks so now you're convinced it's true) belief that the board has some sort of whatever magical properties, and i'm anti-science, pro-mystical on this. not the case. I just don't invoke a programmed response which is more of a reflex motion, than an actual thought process. this is mental zombieism. replacing the brain with programmed response patterns. similar to memes on the clever people who love them so much. why research something when you can just put a picture up, throw some impact font (white) on it, and at the bottom put -Some really smart person This thread is not as dumb as it's pretending, it's gotta be a test. Wanna know the result? It's spreading. Time? 3-4 months. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40964118 United States 08/01/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. I brought a goblim/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 08/01/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you've done it now. Let the fire and brimstone rants commence. Quoting: *Rhombus* In all seriousness, I think the scientists are correct in this case. Thanks for sharing. I dunno...I generally don't believe in "conjuring" spirits, but....I have just had an odd experience with one of those....can't really explain it. I wont be touching one again, that's for sure. So do you think there are no spirits to call upon, or you just don't think a Quija board can do it? Hmmm. I certainly believe that there are forces in this universe that can't be explained by science but I don't know what they are. If someone sat down at an Ouija board with the sole intent of conjuring one it might be possible...I dunno. But I majored in psychology and I know for sure that the subconscious is a very powerful force. My guess is that the vast majority of Ouija messages are driven by unconscious desires or thoughts. That's not to say that Ouija experiences can't be weird and disconcerting...I've had some of them myself. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 08/01/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE I brought a golum/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44022831 New Zealand 08/01/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ive seen a black hairy entity perched over a sleeping person before. When I woke up and looked at it, it looked at me with glowing yellow eyes and it was shocked that I saw it. It floated down the bed in a black mist and flew away. it was as scared of me as much as I was scared of it. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE i believe you. |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 08/01/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you've done it now. Let the fire and brimstone rants commence. Quoting: *Rhombus* In all seriousness, I think the scientists are correct in this case. Thanks for sharing. I dunno...I generally don't believe in "conjuring" spirits, but....I have just had an odd experience with one of those....can't really explain it. I wont be touching one again, that's for sure. So do you think there are no spirits to call upon, or you just don't think a Quija board can do it? Hmmm. I certainly believe that there are forces in this universe that can't be explained by science but I don't know what they are. If someone sat down at an Ouija board with the sole intent of conjuring one it might be possible...I dunno. But I majored in psychology and I know for sure that the subconscious is a very powerful force. My guess is that the vast majority of Ouija messages are driven by unconscious desires or thoughts. That's not to say that Ouija experiences can't be weird and disconcerting...I've had some of them myself. Good answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44387513 United States 08/01/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know, but since a scientists said it, now folks just believe it. My couple experiences freaked me out and after the second one, years after the first one, I threw the thing in the dumpster. did you even read the "scientific article," or is your brain a ( _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ) This is the problem with people. They see a headline, and invoke a reflex motion of thought, eliminating the natural algorithm for thinking. No where in the article does it explain anything whatsoever. The article is not written by a scientist, and gives no link to a scientific, peer reviewed study. what it does state is the obvious, but it doesn't state how the process in which...nvm. pearls to pigs We common folk are not worthy of your pearls.. trust me, i'm more common than the most commonest commoner; it was a figure of speech. my point is everyone sees the word "scientist" stops the thinking process, and dismisses phenomenon to a mental filing cabinet in their x-file mind marked: SOLVED |
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Pyractomena borealis User ID: 20793638 United States 08/01/2013 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To many, Ouija boards are a sign of dark magic, a way to allow people to receive messages from the spirit world by being guided around the board's letters. Quoting: Turtles Voice However, the Victorian parlor game, and other 'spiritual' devices such as dowsing wands, are guided by the people holding them, scientists have found. Under a phenomenon known as the ideomotor effect, muscles and movements can move without a person being aware of the action, leading many to believe they have witnessed some form of magic, according to BBC Future. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] What do y'all think? Appears we are still in the dark ages. The air around is is alive with thousands of creatures flying in and out our dimension. We are brainwashed that we have to poop. eat, and piss to be alive and anything that doesnt poop and eat and piss isnt alive. Sad that we still live in ignorance. No wonder people are so afraid to die . If we are brainwashed to think this is the only life there is, then it will make people keep buying more and support capitalism cause they have no other hope but to live it up in this life. Well said. There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton |
watcher User ID: 35817171 United States 08/01/2013 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did it at my cousins when I was 18...I was living with them for a few months because I was going through some rough times and so were they. They were quite about eleven years older than me, my cousin and his wife, and they had just lost their only child to cancer when he was just eight years old. My cousin had to work and his wife was very depressed and at home alone during the day so I needed a place to stay and she needed the company. She was doing a lot of reading about the paranormal because she wanted to contact her dead son. She would leave his bedroom door open and the nightlight on for him at night. Anyway...to make a long story short she had me go to the toy store and buy a Ouija board and we all sat down and played it one night. I thought my cousin was moving it around because he's quite the prankster...but we all took our hands off the pointer and it was moving on its own without any help from us. It spelled out the name of my husband nine years before I ever met him...he has a pretty unusual name so it stuck with me and I always remember thinking after we got married that the Ouija board really did work! Creepy though...we only played it that one time and I never wanted to do it again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40964118 United States 08/01/2013 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE I brought a golum/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... I dont expect anyone to believe me. But I am a heavy practicer of magick. All the mythologies, stories we grew up on is based on much truth. Where do we go when we die? At least ask that. This world, this existence, this body aint all that. Theres other worlds, possibilities, stages and lifeforms We were put here to be scared , self centered and blind. this allows people to be more controllable and to be hedonistic and to shop more.When you strip people of spirituality, knowledge and self worth, they will be sheeple and putty in your hands. When we take our last breath in this body, remember my words, we will move on to new things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44387513 United States 08/01/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did it at my cousins when I was 18...I was living with them for a few months because I was going through some rough times and so were they. They were quite about eleven years older than me, my cousin and his wife, and they had just lost their only child to cancer when he was just eight years old. My cousin had to work and his wife was very depressed and at home alone during the day so I needed a place to stay and she needed the company. She was doing a lot of reading about the paranormal because she wanted to contact her dead son. She would leave his bedroom door open and the nightlight on for him at night. Anyway...to make a long story short she had me go to the toy store and buy a Ouija board and we all sat down and played it one night. I thought my cousin was moving it around because he's quite the prankster...but we all took our hands off the pointer and it was moving on its own without any help from us. It spelled out the name of my husband nine years before I ever met him...he has a pretty unusual name so it stuck with me and I always remember thinking after we got married that the Ouija board really did work! Creepy though...we only played it that one time and I never wanted to do it again. Quoting: watcher 35817171 1, 3, 5 |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 08/01/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Turtles Voice I know, but since a scientists said it, now folks just believe it. My couple experiences freaked me out and after the second one, years after the first one, I threw the thing in the dumpster. did you even read the "scientific article," or is your brain a ( _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ) This is the problem with people. They see a headline, and invoke a reflex motion of thought, eliminating the natural algorithm for thinking. No where in the article does it explain anything whatsoever. The article is not written by a scientist, and gives no link to a scientific, peer reviewed study. what it does state is the obvious, but it doesn't state how the process in which...nvm. pearls to pigs We common folk are not worthy of your pearls.. trust me, i'm more common than the most commonest commoner; it was a figure of speech. my point is everyone sees the word "scientist" stops the thinking process, and dismisses phenomenon to a mental filing cabinet in their x-file mind marked: SOLVED Or we just engauge in interesting conversations with each other on the topic in general... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38558463 United States 08/01/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To many, Ouija boards are a sign of dark magic, a way to allow people to receive messages from the spirit world by being guided around the board's letters. Quoting: Turtles Voice However, the Victorian parlor game, and other 'spiritual' devices such as dowsing wands, are guided by the people holding them, scientists have found. Under a phenomenon known as the ideomotor effect, muscles and movements can move without a person being aware of the action, leading many to believe they have witnessed some form of magic, according to BBC Future. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] What do y'all think? That's an old idea actually. But the ouija's stuff implies some more complex synergy than that, I think... Yes, I think it's more this/\, that which is communicating utilizes the energy/player to communicate/move the planchette.... Seems the scientist are just explaining part of the *how and none of the *why... Kinda typical... |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 08/01/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE I brought a golum/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... I dont expect anyone to believe me. But I am a heavy practicer of magick. All the mythologies, stories we grew up on is based on much truth. Where do we go when we die? At least ask that. This world, this existence, this body aint all that. Theres other worlds, possibilities, stages and lifeforms We were put here to be scared , self centered and blind. this allows people to be more controllable and to be hedonistic and to shop more.When you strip people of spirituality, knowledge and self worth, they will be sheeple and putty in your hands. When we take our last breath in this body, remember my words, we will move on to new things. I didn't say that as in I am closed minded and just diregard what you say...I just was wondering/hoping you had proof. I am open minded on spiritual matters, I mean I have my core beliefs regarding God, but I don't think even God as told us everything about everything. There are mysteries out there. IMO |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 08/01/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE I brought a golum/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... I dont expect anyone to believe me. But I am a heavy practicer of magick. All the mythologies, stories we grew up on is based on much truth. Where do we go when we die? At least ask that. This world, this existence, this body aint all that. Theres other worlds, possibilities, stages and lifeforms We were put here to be scared , self centered and blind. this allows people to be more controllable and to be hedonistic and to shop more.When you strip people of spirituality, knowledge and self worth, they will be sheeple and putty in your hands. When we take our last breath in this body, remember my words, we will move on to new things. I'll ask: in your estimation, where do we go when we die? I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Inerrancia User ID: 18792782 Spain 08/01/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To many, Ouija boards are a sign of dark magic, a way to allow people to receive messages from the spirit world by being guided around the board's letters. Quoting: Turtles Voice However, the Victorian parlor game, and other 'spiritual' devices such as dowsing wands, are guided by the people holding them, scientists have found. Under a phenomenon known as the ideomotor effect, muscles and movements can move without a person being aware of the action, leading many to believe they have witnessed some form of magic, according to BBC Future. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] What do y'all think? That's an old idea actually. But the ouija's stuff implies some more complex synergy than that, I think... Yes, I think it's more this/\, that which is communicating utilizes the energy/player to communicate/move the planchette.... Seems the scientist are just explaining part of the *how and none of the *why... Kinda typical... It's not an easily understable stuff. usually, the players are basically "talking" with themselves using the planchette or the glass or whatever they use on the cardboard. BUT maybe that that "amount of psychic energy" (whatever it is) released during the seance gets some sort of "independent personality", being technically an "egregore". The affair about "Phillip" in the 70s or 80s is a classic case. Last Edited by Inerrancia on 08/01/2013 12:40 PM |
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r7 User ID: 44037832 United Kingdom 08/01/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats because there isn't any paranormal all the answers are out there, just because you dont know or understand doesnt make it paranormal same goes for religion i know and understand there for educated an free from fear i cant believe any of you modern humanoids still believe in such things that to me is frightening |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 08/01/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not demonic, just another world like the natural world around you. Full of wonders of life both good, bad and strange. Just as dangerous as a baby dear walking into a wide open field. But just as good as life itself. Don't fear the realm, just heed caution. Which is why people are freaked out, they feel the fear and a good reason to fear. But that is no reason to avoid something otherwise beautiful beyond compare. Like a baby realizing the world around them, the amazement. Peek into the divine, but not too far at first. Familiarity is your friend. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33415823 United States 08/01/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats because there isn't any paranormal all the answers are out there, just because you dont know or understand doesnt make it paranormal same goes for religion i know and understand there for educated an free from fear i cant believe any of you modern humanoids still believe in such things that to me is frightening There isn't anything paranormal? Guess again. I am on a paranormal team, and I have witnessed by seeing and hearing things that will make your skin crawl. I have also had a black mass walk thru me. |
*Rhombus* User ID: 38804434 United States 08/01/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you have a ouija board still? I have one that's from the 70's. Creepy looking too. Quoting: pool My grandparents used to have one like this: [link to www.google.com] I always thought it was odd that they had one at all since they were devout Baptists. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40964118 United States 08/01/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was doing magick, I messed up on the pronunciation of one of my incantations. Quoting: SHINING PROVIDENCE I brought a golum/gremblim type of creature into my house, It had fangs and pointy ears He wreaked havoc with me for two weeks before he left. When he entered my house, there was a strong wind and a noise like he was spit out of a portal. he played with empty water bottles and would crinkle them over my head and throw them at me when I tried sleeping. He would step on me, poke me on the side, and open and close doors and jump on the bed. When I confronted it, he would hiss at me or run off. I heard another windstorm and saw him jump back into his portal from which he came. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... I dont expect anyone to believe me. But I am a heavy practicer of magick. All the mythologies, stories we grew up on is based on much truth. Where do we go when we die? At least ask that. This world, this existence, this body aint all that. Theres other worlds, possibilities, stages and lifeforms We were put here to be scared , self centered and blind. this allows people to be more controllable and to be hedonistic and to shop more.When you strip people of spirituality, knowledge and self worth, they will be sheeple and putty in your hands. When we take our last breath in this body, remember my words, we will move on to new things. I'll ask: in your estimation, where do we go when we die? We are all life sparks, from plant, to bug to fish, to mammal to human. We notch up in reincarnation each time. When we reach human, our life spark keeps a record of our core identity but we are given some new challenges, experiences to round us out. This can be seen in natal charts. All the planets emit electromagnetic signals in certain degrees and hertz which is downloaded by our tiny bit of magnetite in our brain. We are born with differing positions of the sun, moon, and planets that help determine our life lessons . When we shed our shell, we reincarnate to another adventure. Eventually though, we end our reincarnation states to become immortal, This is why religions were created to give us comfort and to cheer us onto the finishing line. We reach our shabbat day of rest and we dont have to fight or flight anymore, but are given the secrets of the universe and we are released from pain and bondage. |
WinterStone User ID: 21712977 United States 08/01/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, I hate to say it but when I was a teen, a friend borrowed one from a neighbor and we played it. It NOT a game... I stopped, realizing it was accessing the paranormal of another dimension. Yuck, not good.. I'm sorry to say but lap-tops remind me of the Quija Board just due to the numbers and letters on the lap-top plus having to place both hands on the "board"....or should I say lap-top...LOL Hummm, lap-tops channel capable? Matter of fact who's not to say; that the paranormal dimension is collecting data on humanity....LOL WOW, wonder what information they have collected on human??? Who's to say; humans are the better/good dimension now? Something to think about.. |