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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting AC 47816992 Quoting: SOX All together, that makes 12 surviving children--one from Rousseau's class, and 11 from Soto's. I believe what I heard was 9 from Soto's class who made it down to Riverside Rd. 2 from Soto's class found in the bathroom, 1 from Rousseau's class found uninjured. Makes 12. It's hearsay, but fits. Of the 9 on Riverside Rd, 5 in the Bryce Maksel group headed west on Riverside for up to a mile. 4 of the Aiden Licata group ended up a Rosen's. Gene has always maintained 6. He is correct when the bus driver's 2 kids are included. It was just never publicly talked about. PlasMan? Gene Rosen never said the bus driver's kids were included. He mostly ignored the bus driver. What's a bus driver doing hanging around the school 40 minutes after last dropoff, and with her own kids on board?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But...not to sound completely contrary, your numbers fit. So after a mass shooting, what mom tells her children to get off the bus and go sit in a semicircle with four schoolkids on a stranger's lawn? How about keep the kids on the schoolbus and use your cellphone or the bus radio to ask dispatch what the hell's going on? It would be far more appropriate to tell schoolkids to get ON a bus, rather than tell them to go into a stranger's house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48027318 For all we know, whoever was at St. Rose noon mass 12/16, and received a specific threat, was found and harmed two days later. A teacher or staff member at Head O' Meadow. Oh. Well you're the only one seems to be thinking about it. What kind of answer is that? Two Newtown schoolteachers/staff were taken to the hospital after a morning-long shooting threat. The only reason more people aren't thinking about it is because they don't know about it. I am not a story. I regularly shoot in the 90's and sometime high 80's. Two HOM Teachers were not taken to hospital I only know Bob Manfro and his wife & ex-wife. Two HOM female adult staff were taken to Danbury Hospital the morning of December 18, 2012. Specific police officers who can be identified attending to their medical issues, held off other officers' needs saying they needed to attend to the women's medical issues, and then called for ambulances. Parents coming up to the school were turned away and a perimeter was established. The two female HOM staff members were then taken to hospital. |
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SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But...not to sound completely contrary, your numbers fit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48252565 So after a mass shooting, what mom tells her children to get off the bus and go sit in a semicircle with four schoolkids on a stranger's lawn? How about keep the kids on the schoolbus and use your cellphone or the bus radio to ask dispatch what the hell's going on? It would be far more appropriate to tell schoolkids to get ON a bus, rather than tell them to go into a stranger's house. Well, every police car in Connecticut was bearing down on Dickenson Dr. with lights and sirens. Instead of wasting time finding the children's parents via phone, either Gene or the bus driver could have walked down the road 100 feet and told the nearest police officer there were children at the house. It looks like, the way the story was told that the children were at the house for a good hour, having cookies and playing with stuffed animals, waiting for their parents to pick them up. I don't think it went down exactly that way. Maybe the bus driver was afraid of losing her job having unauthorized passengers on the bus. That's why a lot of people don't believe Gene's story as told. Even though Gene comes across on TV as a good storyteller, (actor) he and his wife Marilyn bought that house in 1972. Gene's retired from a state mental health hospital. Last Edited by SOX on 10/12/2013 04:46 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31185579 United States 10/12/2013 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But...not to sound completely contrary, your numbers fit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48252565 So after a mass shooting, what mom tells her children to get off the bus and go sit in a semicircle with four schoolkids on a stranger's lawn? How about keep the kids on the schoolbus and use your cellphone or the bus radio to ask dispatch what the hell's going on? It would be far more appropriate to tell schoolkids to get ON a bus, rather than tell them to go into a stranger's house. Well, every police car in Connecticut was bearing down on Dickenson Dr. with lights and sirens. Instead of wasting time finding the children's parents via phone, either Gene or the bus driver could have walked down the road 100 feet and told the nearest police officer there were children at the house. It looks like, the way the story was told that the children were at the house for a good hour, having cookies and playing with stuffed animals, waiting for their parents to pick them up. I don't think it went down exactly that way. Maybe the bus driver was afraid of losing her job having unauthorized passengers on the bus. That's why a lot of people don't believe Gene's story as told. Even though Gene comes across on TV as a good storyteller, (actor) he and his wife Marilyn bought that house in 1972. Gene's retired from a state mental health hospital. Did you watch Gene's "rehearsal" video? WTF?! Someone explain that to me please.... |
SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a rumor going around last spring that Newtown was one community used by the Federal Witness Protection Program. That would explain why little information is forthcoming, etc. However, if a professional hit team did it, why would they need a patsy,(Lanza)? If they were looking for a child of someone in the program, would they really take out 20 first graders and 6 staff? I don't think they would operate that way. Any way you look at it, it leads back to Lanza as the lone shooter. I would concentrate on motive, his pedigree, and people associated in anyway with Lanza. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32885654 United States 10/12/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But...not to sound completely contrary, your numbers fit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48252565 So after a mass shooting, what mom tells her children to get off the bus and go sit in a semicircle with four schoolkids on a stranger's lawn? How about keep the kids on the schoolbus and use your cellphone or the bus radio to ask dispatch what the hell's going on? It would be far more appropriate to tell schoolkids to get ON a bus, rather than tell them to go into a stranger's house. Well, every police car in Connecticut was bearing down on Dickenson Dr. with lights and sirens. Instead of wasting time finding the children's parents via phone, either Gene or the bus driver could have walked down the road 100 feet and told the nearest police officer there were children at the house. It looks like, the way the story was told that the children were at the house for a good hour, having cookies and playing with stuffed animals, waiting for their parents to pick them up. I don't think it went down exactly that way. Maybe the bus driver was afraid of losing her job having unauthorized passengers on the bus. That's why a lot of people don't believe Gene's story as told. Even though Gene comes across on TV as a good storyteller, (actor) he and his wife Marilyn bought that house in 1972. Gene's retired from a state mental health hospital. Did you watch Gene's "rehearsal" video? WTF?! Someone explain that to me please.... Shhhhh! They are discussing this like it really happen. Don't wake any of the sheeples up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31185579 United States 10/12/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a rumor going around last spring that Newtown was one community used by the Federal Witness Protection Program. That would explain why little information is forthcoming, etc. Quoting: SOX However, if a professional hit team did it, why would they need a patsy,(Lanza)? If they were looking for a child of someone in the program, would they really take out 20 first graders and 6 staff? I don't think they would operate that way. Any way you look at it, it leads back to Lanza as the lone shooter. I would concentrate on motive, his pedigree, and people associated in anyway with Lanza. Why is it both you and PlasMan show up on glp around the same time???? And BOTH of you want to continue the Lanza lie.... seriously?! You believe an autistic young man (scared of loud noises), weighing a buck20 dripping wet and to the best of our knowledge has NEVER handled a firearm - can do what has been claimed to have been done by him!!!???? Seriously? |
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SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a rumor going around last spring that Newtown was one community used by the Federal Witness Protection Program. That would explain why little information is forthcoming, etc. Quoting: SOX However, if a professional hit team did it, why would they need a patsy,(Lanza)? If they were looking for a child of someone in the program, would they really take out 20 first graders and 6 staff? I don't think they would operate that way. Any way you look at it, it leads back to Lanza as the lone shooter. I would concentrate on motive, his pedigree, and people associated in anyway with Lanza. Why is it both you and PlasMan show up on glp around the same time???? And BOTH of you want to continue the Lanza lie.... seriously?! You believe an autistic young man (scared of loud noises), weighing a buck20 dripping wet and to the best of our knowledge has NEVER handled a firearm - can do what has been claimed to have been done by him!!!???? Seriously? I do not think it was a hoax. I think a 20 year old man with access to the weapons and a little luck could pull this off. I do think it was well planned in advance. I think there is a coverup and the whole story is not to be known for some reason. If the shooter killed himself in the presence of L.E. he was not a patsy. I have not come across any information to indicate it was anything but what was reported. However, I respect everyone's opinion here. There is something wrong with the whole picture, but to believe stories like there was dead children in Gene Rosen's basement is utter nonsense . I live about 60 miles from Newtown. I don't know Plasman and he does not know me. He's giving you the perspective of a local. I don't think he is trying to con you or steer you in the wrong direction. If he was, he would point you in a hoax theory. I have seen no indication of that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31185579 United States 10/12/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a rumor going around last spring that Newtown was one community used by the Federal Witness Protection Program. That would explain why little information is forthcoming, etc. Quoting: SOX However, if a professional hit team did it, why would they need a patsy,(Lanza)? If they were looking for a child of someone in the program, would they really take out 20 first graders and 6 staff? I don't think they would operate that way. Any way you look at it, it leads back to Lanza as the lone shooter. I would concentrate on motive, his pedigree, and people associated in anyway with Lanza. Why is it both you and PlasMan show up on glp around the same time???? And BOTH of you want to continue the Lanza lie.... seriously?! You believe an autistic young man (scared of loud noises), weighing a buck20 dripping wet and to the best of our knowledge has NEVER handled a firearm - can do what has been claimed to have been done by him!!!???? Seriously? I do not think it was a hoax. I think a 20 year old man with access to the weapons and a little luck could pull this off. I do think it was well planned in advance. I think there is a coverup and the whole story is not to be known for some reason. If the shooter killed himself in the presence of L.E. he was not a patsy. I have not come across any information to indicate it was anything but what was reported. However, I respect everyone's opinion here. There is something wrong with the whole picture, but to believe stories like there was dead children in Gene Rosen's basement is utter nonsense . I live about 60 miles from Newtown. I don't know Plasman and he does not know me. He's giving you the perspective of a local. I don't think he is trying to con you or steer you in the wrong direction. If he was, he would point you in a hoax theory. I have seen no indication of that. I smell something rotten in Connecticut..... |
SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PlasMan is the only thing you have right know. If he is who he says he is, then he would be considered an "insider". Law enforcement is going to give you absolutely nothing. Witnesses have all clammed up. Even the local news media can't be trusted. I follow along here for his updates. Basically it's the only thing I got. The shooting is almost a year old, but there is still tremendous interest in it. Last Edited by SOX on 10/12/2013 06:46 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47944390 United States 10/12/2013 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48027318 For all we know, whoever was at St. Rose noon mass 12/16, and received a specific threat, was found and harmed two days later. A teacher or staff member at Head O' Meadow. Oh. Well you're the only one seems to be thinking about it. What kind of answer is that? Two Newtown schoolteachers/staff were taken to the hospital after a morning-long shooting threat. The only reason more people aren't thinking about it is because they don't know about it. I am not a story. I regularly shoot in the 90's and sometime high 80's. Two HOM Teachers were not taken to hospital I only know Bob Manfro and his wife & ex-wife. Well that makes sense since that was a misdirection event as well |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47944390 United States 10/12/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PlasMan is the only thing you have right know. If he is who he says he is, then he would be considered an "insider". Law enforcement is going to give you absolutely nothing. Witnesses have all clammed up. Even the local news media can't be trusted. Quoting: SOX I follow along here for his updates. Basically it's the only thing I got. The shooting is almost a year old, but there is still tremendous interest in it. I actually think Plasman and you must be on the same floor and share cubicle space. Maybe you two were assigned GLP since others got tired. You do have to move assets around you know. Of course you believe the official story. You say you have not seen anything to make you think otherwise but you also state that the witnesses have all clammed up and the local news media cannot be trusted. Sure. I get it. |
SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PlasMan is the only thing you have right know. If he is who he says he is, then he would be considered an "insider". Law enforcement is going to give you absolutely nothing. Witnesses have all clammed up. Even the local news media can't be trusted. Quoting: SOX I follow along here for his updates. Basically it's the only thing I got. The shooting is almost a year old, but there is still tremendous interest in it. I actually think Plasman and you must be on the same floor and share cubicle space. Maybe you two were assigned GLP since others got tired. You do have to move assets around you know. Of course you believe the official story. You say you have not seen anything to make you think otherwise but you also state that the witnesses have all clammed up and the local news media cannot be trusted. Sure. I get it. I respect your opinions even though I do not agree. Yes,I follow the same line of what happened with PlasMan. He appears to support the theory Lanza was involved, but questions other aspects of the case even as far as a cover up. If it was a conspiracy and Nancy and Adam were victims, not responsible in any way, then it was a brilliant, thought out plan by some covert group. Of course the police would have to know, but have no idea who did it and that is why they are stalling. What would the end result be this covert group was expecting from this atrocity? Gun grab? There would have to be leaks coming out by this time. There isn't and there is some reason for it. The best thing Lanza could have done was to blow his brains immediately after he killed his mother. The story might have made a couple of lines in the back of the Hartford Courant and that would have been the end of it. Unfortunately it did not work out that way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32885654 United States 10/12/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PlasMan is the only thing you have right know. If he is who he says he is, then he would be considered an "insider". Law enforcement is going to give you absolutely nothing. Witnesses have all clammed up. Even the local news media can't be trusted. Quoting: SOX I follow along here for his updates. Basically it's the only thing I got. The shooting is almost a year old, but there is still tremendous interest in it. I actually think Plasman and you must be on the same floor and share cubicle space. Maybe you two were assigned GLP since others got tired. You do have to move assets around you know. Of course you believe the official story. You say you have not seen anything to make you think otherwise but you also state that the witnesses have all clammed up and the local news media cannot be trusted. Sure. I get it. Those two shills have took over this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a rumor going around last spring that Newtown was one community used by the Federal Witness Protection Program. That would explain why little information is forthcoming, etc. Quoting: SOX However, if a professional hit team did it, why would they need a patsy,(Lanza)? If they were looking for a child of someone in the program, would they really take out 20 first graders and 6 staff? I don't think they would operate that way. Any way you look at it, it leads back to Lanza as the lone shooter. I would concentrate on motive, his pedigree, and people associated in anyway with Lanza. Definitely no lone shooter, whoever it was. The timings make that impossible. Also, PlasMan's theory that the shooting happened in "just under 5 minutes" is Vance's personal fantasy, likely designed to get his people off the hook for a horrifically flawed 911 dispatch consolidation effort. The shooting, without question, took longer than 5 minutes. I do not join the ranks of those willing to pin the surviving children's deaths on Chapman and Penna. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, the insider says last shot fired--self-inflicted to the head--was at 9:39 a.m., precisely when Penna et al waltz in through the unlocked boiler room door. The run to the first three rooms, and spot a gun and the dead shooter. Penna and Chapman then wait 17 minutes to call an ambulance. Give me a reason. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People like Sox and Plasman (probably the same people?! both started posting about sandy hook on 8/13/13) want to steer the converstions subtly to considering that Adam Lanza IS the lone shooter - such bullshit! "Lanza's" not a lone shooter. He's not any shooter, unless he was dragged to the school by his neighbors and forced to take a few shots. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People like Sox and Plasman (probably the same people?! both started posting about sandy hook on 8/13/13) want to steer the converstions subtly to considering that Adam Lanza IS the lone shooter - such bullshit! "Lanza's" not a lone shooter. He's not any shooter, unless he was dragged to the school by his neighbors and forced to take a few shots. However, the incredibly contradictory photos--some obviously tampered with--of "him", which are actually of multiple people, make me believe he may only be a digital patsy. His "birth" photo shows a child with detached earlobes. The Adam angle is not worth spending time on, at least not in comparison to stronger leads. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, since we have so many locals or almost-locals here, certainly someone knows what happened to those two poor souls evacuated from Head O' Meadow December 18th. It was the first day back at school, and after having their medical problems attended to by police, other officers were told to standby as police continued to deal with the "medical situation," and then ambulances were dispatched to Head O' Meadow school. If not, I'd say there's a deplorable lack of curiosity, as Cristopher Plummer would say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/12/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the single most compelling pieces of evidence pointing to multiple shooters is a statement by a Fairfield County trooper, who stated that the St. Rose incident on 12/16 was a "continuation of what happened at this location two days ago, against the individual who's continuing to be the target." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31185579 United States 10/12/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People like Sox and Plasman (probably the same people?! both started posting about sandy hook on 8/13/13) want to steer the converstions subtly to considering that Adam Lanza IS the lone shooter - such bullshit! "Lanza's" not a lone shooter. He's not any shooter, unless he was dragged to the school by his neighbors and forced to take a few shots. However, the incredibly contradictory photos--some obviously tampered with--of "him", which are actually of multiple people, make me believe he may only be a digital patsy. His "birth" photo shows a child with detached earlobes. The Adam angle is not worth spending time on, at least not in comparison to stronger leads. Let me rephrase as to no confusion on my beliefs; Lanza was not the lone shooter, Lanza was not a shooter, if anything poor Adam was a corpse brought to the scene. Whether one shooter or more shooters or "no" shooters, this has yet to be discovered. |
SOX User ID: 25914966 United States 10/12/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently he lived on his own during the final days while his mother was in New Hampshire on vacation. A book on Aspergers Syndrome was found during a search warrant of his house. A plant, who knows? Aspergers in itself is not such a big issue. The picture being painted of him is a shy 20 year old with high IQ but lacking in social skills. A shut in who enjoyed playing violent video games. Which in itself means nothing. What triggered him to do what he did? Evidence obtained at the scene may reveal what happened in the final days. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48252565 United States 10/13/2013 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it can be agreed upon that Adam had some mental health issues. His own family admitted that. What would trigger him to kill his mother and 26 other people? Quoting: SOX Apparently he lived on his own during the final days while his mother was in New Hampshire on vacation. A book on Aspergers Syndrome was found during a search warrant of his house. A plant, who knows? Aspergers in itself is not such a big issue. The picture being painted of him is a shy 20 year old with high IQ but lacking in social skills. A shut in who enjoyed playing violent video games. Which in itself means nothing. What triggered him to do what he did? Evidence obtained at the scene may reveal what happened in the final days. Um, no. A book invented by story-spinners, and never in the presence of police "documenting" the evidence. They spelled it "Asbergers," among many other spelling errors. The cops who allegedly documented the "Lanza's" belonging were not in the presence of those belongings. The warrants are utterly fraudulent. Shy? Give me a break. |
blind squirrel User ID: 31185579 United States 10/13/2013 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it can be agreed upon that Adam had some mental health issues. His own family admitted that. What would trigger him to kill his mother and 26 other people? Quoting: SOX Apparently he lived on his own during the final days while his mother was in New Hampshire on vacation. A book on Aspergers Syndrome was found during a search warrant of his house. A plant, who knows? Aspergers in itself is not such a big issue. The picture being painted of him is a shy 20 year old with high IQ but lacking in social skills. A shut in who enjoyed playing violent video games. Which in itself means nothing. What triggered him to do what he did? Evidence obtained at the scene may reveal what happened in the final days. Um, no. A book invented by story-spinners, and never in the presence of police "documenting" the evidence. They spelled it "Asbergers," among many other spelling errors. The cops who allegedly documented the "Lanza's" belonging were not in the presence of those belongings. The warrants are utterly fraudulent. Shy? Give me a break. We know absolutely nothing about Adam Lanza, other than what the official story has told us. The bogus pictures of him, the fraudulent evidence, and all of the presumptions. His father and brother and any other direct family member nor a "real" contemporary friend has stepped up to clear up this matter - of who is/was Adam Lanza? Do you not find this odd? Going on 10 months now and know one that knew Adam has made any statement in helping clear his name or show proof of blame.....nothing, nadda. Hell we don't even know for a fact he even existed?! "Even a broken clock is right twice a day!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44568568 United States 10/13/2013 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it can be agreed upon that Adam had some mental health issues. His own family admitted that. What would trigger him to kill his mother and 26 other people? Quoting: SOX Apparently he lived on his own during the final days while his mother was in New Hampshire on vacation. A book on Aspergers Syndrome was found during a search warrant of his house. A plant, who knows? Aspergers in itself is not such a big issue. The picture being painted of him is a shy 20 year old with high IQ but lacking in social skills. A shut in who enjoyed playing violent video games. Which in itself means nothing. What triggered him to do what he did? Evidence obtained at the scene may reveal what happened in the final days. Um, no. A book invented by story-spinners, and never in the presence of police "documenting" the evidence. They spelled it "Asbergers," among many other spelling errors. The cops who allegedly documented the "Lanza's" belonging were not in the presence of those belongings. The warrants are utterly fraudulent. Shy? Give me a break. Thank you - they found am NRA Certificate too which is an obvious forgery. The lawn maintenance guys could not use the weed whacker close to the Lanza house because Adam could not tolerate the noise. Being on a gun range can be nerve wracking for experienced shooters. So how could Lanza have become an expert marksman at the range? Is there any evidence he ever fired a gun anywhere ? All evidence appears faked, fabricated or planted |
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