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For those with no time, or devices that can't watch...

This is a video by NHK that spells out the leaking water issues for Fukushima....

They are, We are, in serious trouble as we know.....

Watch as 'suit-men' calmly talk about

"Robots, endoscopes, remote controlled boats, difficulties, challenges, new technologies"

"Regretable leaks, mysterious amounts of radiation, Unknown sources, Tackling serious issues urgently, Hurdles for technology, Befuddled scientist"

"Reassurances, First of it's kind solutions"

And their "commitment to the safety of the people"

another do

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hi TEPCO person, 1 star in under a minute.. you naughty rascal you..... funny the video runs for nearly 50.... guess it must be pretty close to the mark then... thanks for your input.....

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Keep up the good work CP

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For those with no time, or devices that can't watch...

This is a video by NHK that spells out the leaking water issues for Fukushima....

They are, We are, in serious trouble as we know.....

Watch as 'suit-men' calmly talk about

"Robots, endoscopes, remote controlled boats, difficulties, challenges, new technologies"

"Regretable leaks, mysterious amounts of radiation, Unknown sources, Tackling serious issues urgently, Hurdles for technology, Befuddled scientist"

"Reassurances, First of it's kind solutions"

And their "commitment to the safety of the people"

another do
 Quoting: Citizenperth


And they sold us a lie saying that Nuclear Energy was clean and safe!
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coming from NHK isn't this more "mainstream" than the government would want put out?

just curious Perth since you have been following this closely.. why even try to educate the Japanese public at all? if they pass secrecy laws and all that
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wow, hell of a way to start Monday. The truth is these bastards have poisoned the pill and told us to swallow.
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For those with no time, or devices that can't watch...

This is a video by NHK that spells out the leaking water issues for Fukushima....

They are, We are, in serious trouble as we know.....

Watch as 'suit-men' calmly talk about

"Robots, endoscopes, remote controlled boats, difficulties, challenges, new technologies"

"Regretable leaks, mysterious amounts of radiation, Unknown sources, Tackling serious issues urgently, Hurdles for technology, Befuddled scientist"

"Reassurances, First of it's kind solutions"

And their "commitment to the safety of the people"

another do
 Quoting: Citizenperth


inside Reactor #1, the Radiation levels reach 5 millisieverts/hour, and they can only stay there 15 minutes!

Correction, The leaks are OUTSIDE the containment chamber, below the melted through reactor core. On the floor of Building #1, there is standing water from both the containment chamber, and ground water where the radiation levels reach 2 sieverts/ hour, enough to would kill someone within 3 hours.
The team is working from the 2nd floor, where they are limited to only working 5 hours, due to the high levels of radiation.

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The real doom unfolding and media silence. Frightening. Thanks for your updates. I am trying to tell my best friend in California about the radiation, but they are of the "if it were true, it would be on the news" school. I live in Florida and all of the oranges in our stores are from California and go bad twice as quickly as the Florida ones.
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The real doom unfolding and media silence. Frightening. Thanks for your updates. I am trying to tell my best friend in California about the radiation, but they are of the "if it were true, it would be on the news" school. I live in Florida and all of the oranges in our stores are from California and go bad twice as quickly as the Florida ones.
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Florida oranges are the best!


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coming from NHK isn't this more "mainstream" than the government would want put out?

just curious Perth since you have been following this closely.. why even try to educate the Japanese public at all? if they pass secrecy laws and all that
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good question... it's not like i've tried to stop informing them.. i find the people in JP that I am in contact with already know, but that are strapped with the same problem you described...I am focusing my efforts where people care to do something..... if you get my drift.... ALASKA (Canada and all West coast)and their seafood industry, and Hawaii are high on my list at the moment.... and Atom boy apparently is to sick to comment so he and his colleagues just leave one star taps from their drip lines......

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"could take 40 years to decommision"

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For those with no time, or devices that can't watch...

This is a video by NHK that spells out the leaking water issues for Fukushima....

They are, We are, in serious trouble as we know.....

Watch as 'suit-men' calmly talk about

"Robots, endoscopes, remote controlled boats, difficulties, challenges, new technologies"

"Regretable leaks, mysterious amounts of radiation, Unknown sources, Tackling serious issues urgently, Hurdles for technology, Befuddled scientist"

"Reassurances, First of it's kind solutions"

And their "commitment to the safety of the people"

another do
 Quoting: Citizenperth


inside Reactor #1, the Radiation levels reach 5 millisieverts/hour, and they can only stay there 15 minutes!

Correction, The leaks are OUTSIDE the containment chamber, below the melted through reactor core. On the floor of Building #1, there is standing water from both the containment chamber, and ground water where the radiation levels reach 2 sieverts/ hour, enough to would kill someone within 3 hours.
The team is working from the 2nd floor, where they are limited to only working 5 hours, due to the high levels of radiation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


They estimate that Tritium will be RELEASED for at least 20 years and Cesium for 50 years.

What are the properties of tritium?

Tritium is a hydrogen atom that has two neutrons in the nucleus, in addition to its single proton, giving it an atomic weight near three. Although tritium can be a gas, its most common form is in water, because, like non-radioactive hydrogen, radioactive tritium reacts with oxygen to form water. Tritium replaces one of the stable hydrogens in the water molecule, H2O, and is called tritiated water (HTO). Like H2O, tritiated water is colorless and odorless. Tritium has a half-life of 12.3 years and emits a very weak beta particle.
[link to www.epa.gov]

What are the properties of cesium-137?

Cesium, as well as cesium-137, is a soft, malleable, silvery white metal. Cesium is one of only three metals that is a liquid near room temperature (83 °F). The half-life of cesium-137 is 30 years. It decays by emission of a beta particle and gamma rays to barium-137m.

How do I know if I'm near cesium-137?

You need special equipment to detect the presence of any radionuclide. You cannot feel exposure to cesium-137, or taste or smell it.
[link to www.epa.gov]

I question this information, wondering if it is designed to down-play the severity of the situation, as they only mention Tritium and Cesium here. Exactly how many different types of hot particles are there? I think more than just Tritium and Cesium!
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What is NHK?
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What is NHK?
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the Asian Version of CNN [et al]
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For those with no time, or devices that can't watch...

This is a video by NHK that spells out the leaking water issues for Fukushima....

They are, We are, in serious trouble as we know.....

Watch as 'suit-men' calmly talk about

"Robots, endoscopes, remote controlled boats, difficulties, challenges, new technologies"

"Regretable leaks, mysterious amounts of radiation, Unknown sources, Tackling serious issues urgently, Hurdles for technology, Befuddled scientist"

"Reassurances, First of it's kind solutions"

And their "commitment to the safety of the people"

another do
 Quoting: Citizenperth


inside Reactor #1, the Radiation levels reach 5 millisieverts/hour, and they can only stay there 15 minutes!

Correction, The leaks are OUTSIDE the containment chamber, below the melted through reactor core. On the floor of Building #1, there is standing water from both the containment chamber, and ground water where the radiation levels reach 2 sieverts/ hour, enough to would kill someone within 3 hours.
The team is working from the 2nd floor, where they are limited to only working 5 hours, due to the high levels of radiation.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


They estimate that Tritium will be RELEASED for at least 20 years and Cesium for 50 years.

What are the properties of tritium?

Tritium is a hydrogen atom that has two neutrons in the nucleus, in addition to its single proton, giving it an atomic weight near three. Although tritium can be a gas, its most common form is in water, because, like non-radioactive hydrogen, radioactive tritium reacts with oxygen to form water. Tritium replaces one of the stable hydrogens in the water molecule, H2O, and is called tritiated water (HTO). Like H2O, tritiated water is colorless and odorless. Tritium has a half-life of 12.3 years and emits a very weak beta particle.
[link to www.epa.gov]

What are the properties of cesium-137?

Cesium, as well as cesium-137, is a soft, malleable, silvery white metal. Cesium is one of only three metals that is a liquid near room temperature (83 °F). The half-life of cesium-137 is 30 years. It decays by emission of a beta particle and gamma rays to barium-137m.

How do I know if I'm near cesium-137?

You need special equipment to detect the presence of any radionuclide. You cannot feel exposure to cesium-137, or taste or smell it.
[link to www.epa.gov]

I question this information, wondering if it is designed to down-play the severity of the situation, as they only mention Tritium and Cesium here. Exactly how many different types of hot particles are there? I think more than just Tritium and Cesium!
 Quoting: Chugiakian




ALERT!!! please read!!!!

@Min 21:21 in the video…...

One month AFTER THE MELT-DOWNS, MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF CONTAMINATED WATER was flowing OUT OF THE TRENCHES INTO THE OCEAN. This contaminated water contained extremely high levels of Cesium, at MORE THAN 20,000,000 TIMES the Government safe limits…… (yes, more than 20 MILLION TIME THE LIMIT

hmmmm, I wonder what WAS the safe limit? anybody know?
yes,
@Min 19:45 in the video…...they show you their chart. (100 Bq/liter).

NOW LOOK…..

@Min 21:04 in the video…...
they explain in September and October of 2013 they claim to have taken measurements which they show on minute 21:04, however, going back to their chart @ Min 19:45 in the video, the levels don't appear to match……???
Go back to Min 21:04 and look, it appears that the levels measured, are HIGHER than the graph showing the key of comparison (10^3 Bq/liter) in the graph. See it? The height of the key vs the height of the measurement? The measurement appears to be what, 10^5? in any case, isn't 10^3 already higher than the government's safe limit of 100 Bq/liter? Am I missing something here? This level doesn't match the Chart of their measurements @ Min 19:45 in either September or October of 2013………
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE VERIFY THIS?
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The real doom unfolding and media silence. Frightening. Thanks for your updates. I am trying to tell my best friend in California about the radiation, but they are of the "if it were true, it would be on the news" school. I live in Florida and all of the oranges in our stores are from California and go bad twice as quickly as the Florida ones.
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I'm also worried sick about Fukushima, however you are expressing a deep misunderstanding of how radiation gets transmitted across the ocean.

If California oranges used sea water to grow, then you could be right, but they don't. They use fresh water that falls out of the sky.

There is no radiation currently falling out of the sky onto California. We're in a DROUGHT! If you want to worry about irradiated crops you should investigate your corn and wheat coming from the midwest where they've been getting record precipitation for the past couple of years.
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Still leaking
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The real doom unfolding and media silence. Frightening. Thanks for your updates. I am trying to tell my best friend in California about the radiation, but they are of the "if it were true, it would be on the news" school. I live in Florida and all of the oranges in our stores are from California and go bad twice as quickly as the Florida ones.
 Quoting: hockeymomgonebad


I'm also worried sick about Fukushima, however you are expressing a deep misunderstanding of how radiation gets transmitted across the ocean.

If California oranges used sea water to grow, then you could be right, but they don't. They use fresh water that falls out of the sky.

There is no radiation currently falling out of the sky onto California. We're in a DROUGHT! If you want to worry about irradiated crops you should investigate your corn and wheat coming from the midwest where they've been getting record precipitation for the past couple of years.
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radiation is kind'a like god. it works in mysterious ways.
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What is NHK?
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the Asian Version of CNN [et al]
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This is a good video, even if MSM and obviously trying to show the whole "were are working hard on this" angle. Fixing the small leaks around the sand pipe attachment points.

But did I miss the part were they they explained the massive holes in the bottom of 1,2,3 where the cores breached the bottom of containment and are headed for peru right now (after it tunnels through the center of the earth)

How do you fix that type of leak? And shouldn't it be a higher priority?
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What is NHK?
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the Asian Version of CNN [et al]
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nhk
Google's Web Definitions Web definitions

NHK is Japan's national public broadcasting organization. NHK, which has always identified itself to its audiences by the English pronunciation of its initials, is a publicly owned corporation funded by viewers' payments of a television license fee. ...

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When is NHK going to put a video out on this?

(This is my work that I posted several times on GLP...)

NOAA Jan 17, 2014 12:45pm

[link to marinedebris.noaa.gov]


This link has a map...

[link to marinedebris.noaa.gov]

There is a .pdf link on the page with a fairly large map.


The .pdf link is:

[link to marinedebris.noaa.gov]

The characters in the last part of the link stand for:

Japan Tsunami Marine Debris Visualization Final (edition) dated December 3, 2013.

The statement that appears in a lot of reports is that the debris field is the size of Texas... The debris field on the map looks a lot like the size of texas.



Big Map with Distance Measurement:
[link to i.imgur.com]

Distance from California (950 miles):
[link to i.imgur.com]

Measurement from North to South (frontal impact) (950 miles):
[link to i.imgur.com]

Source:
[link to marinedebris.noaa.gov]

Using Rate * Time Distance Measuring ... I estimate that the Japan Tsunami Marine Debris Field will impact the California and Baja coastline on or about May 26, 2014. I also mesured it as being 1.45 times the size Texas...

I guess NHK doesn't think this is news worthy.
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Very interested in Fukshima as it's up there as one of the very real problems happening in the world that sites like GLP do a good job at covering.

Saying that...

Up until recently, I tended to believe any conspiracy theory over the CNN story but I've come to the conclusion that the conspiracy theory world - for whatever reason - is filled with way more propaganda and fear than CNN! Just be careful where you tread and what you accuse people you do not know personally, of.
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what about graphene filters? Filter so fine that what comes out the other end is pure?

I prefer optimism, but I agree with you that tepco inspires doubt...
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Wow, that's the best camera they can come up with?

This is japan, I call bullshit.
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They act like, wow we confirmed a leak in the reactor. We've only been pumping water into it for a year. We wondered why it never filled up.
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They do confirm the containment vessel is breached. So the core is in the ground.
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The photo cams that showed activity suddenly showed no activity. Anybody know if this is still the case?
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The real doom unfolding and media silence. Frightening. Thanks for your updates. I am trying to tell my best friend in California about the radiation, but they are of the "if it were true, it would be on the news" school. I live in Florida and all of the oranges in our stores are from California and go bad twice as quickly as the Florida ones.
 Quoting: hockeymomgonebad


I'm also worried sick about Fukushima, however you are expressing a deep misunderstanding of how radiation gets transmitted across the ocean.

If California oranges used sea water to grow, then you could be right, but they don't. They use fresh water that falls out of the sky.

There is no radiation currently falling out of the sky onto California. We're in a DROUGHT! If you want to worry about irradiated crops you should investigate your corn and wheat coming from the midwest where they've been getting record precipitation for the past couple of years.
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"radiation gets transmitted across the Pacific."

Understand we're talking about an INFINITE variety of radioactive substances. Each one has a unique radioactive and physical characteristic. For instance, Tritium will be damaging in the environment for about 60 years, havin that 12 year half-life. Tritium is WATER...yes WATER. It is not 'irradiated water' that can be filtered. Tritium also behaves like water. It evaporates and freezes, and stays liquid.
Cesium stays around in the environment for about 100 years and mimics potassium, so plants get fooled by it, take it into their bodies, and mutate their DNA, never to recover in future generations.

Extremely complex problem, this 'radiation'
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Can someone please link me to any information that may connect Fukushima with why we are staying sick (1 month for me now) and not getting better. I've tolerated a sore throat, cough (that has no mucus but gags me sometimes in the middle of the night) and running nose. I live in So. Calif.


I haven't been on here daily (so, I might of missed a thread about this), but I see many around me still sick as well. I was just wondering if anyone has made the connection with the radiation in our area.





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