UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

At no time Ukraine killed Russians before they invaded Crimea and East Ukraine. Russians killed Ukrainians in Ukraine first.

Last Edited by Chippey on 06/28/2014 01:46 AM

so..what's that supposed to mean..that you agree with what I said?

Chippey pls :D :rofl:

where ? On Maidan ? so thats why your Free goverment want silent this case ? where is public trial of this murderes ? shit even trial of some scapegoat ? No nada nicht nein and ніяк will be such thing|
You can guess why

Russians did not invade Crimea, Crimeans decided on a referendum to secede from Ukraine.
Kiev nazis decided to overthrow a democratically elected president and therefore rob the people of eastern Ukraine of their democratic rights to have an legally elected president.

Putin this.....Nato that.....Russia this......Ukraine that......etc.etc.


This is exactly how they want you to think......and speak.



However.........it has always been about the rich exploiting the poor.



The elites have their meetings and get togethers several time each year.......and even more frequent contact seems likely. They are not part of any particular nation......but are a group onto themselves......and owe allegiance only to their own group.

They were being robbed by their own president and his gang.

Maybe, but they were also robbed by Tymoshenko yet there was no coup. Anyway, that why you have elections and the courts.
Oh and the same gang is still there ruling Ukraine (Poroshenko, Akhmetov, Khomolvsky...) so it was obviously not about "robbing".

all lower level employees of the same organization.......and following their orders.

You are right. Much the same gang is still there. The old government as such resigned. They at first had the militia beat up the small number of peaceful protestors who had a legal right to protest under the constitution. People did not like what happened and joined the protest and so it escalated to not only Kyiv but most cities in Ukraine. Within 2 days of the mass killings the parliament had resumed and most Party of Regions members resigned from the party but not from parliament. The president had fled the country along with most of his inner circle and also a large proportion of the countries money.

How can anyone honestly still try to justify this Russian aggression? Only if you have no brain or you are a paid shill...

What aggression are you talking about, shill?

yes new factory in ucraina and no work for eu worker..

why estonia can separate from russia and est ukraina cant separate from w. ukraina ? what is difference ?

Is Porosjenko ok with that?

What credible evidence do you have that the Ukrainian government is not letting civilian families leave the war zone?

We have already discussed this.

Nonviolent protesters get sympathy.

Armed thugs who use force and threats to take over government buildings get a bullet in the head, and rightly so. No government can tolerate armed rebellion.

First of all to export to EU you have to meet "EU standards" which is basically a barrier. Even though Ukraine signed the ass. agreement that doesn't mean there is free trade or that they export anything they like. Having signed the ass. agreement they have created a barrier between them and the russian market, with which they had an agreement of free trade. Russian trade made about 40% of Ukraine's GDP. There was a reason the former Ukraine presidents postponed the signature you know, it's not because they were russian puppets...only a zombie maidanist thinks that and has no clue about how economy works.

you identified correctly the only two conditions by which this becomes possible.

Actually, both can be qualified as severe mental sickness!

There was no one taken as hostages. They were just taking and occupying governmental building and making checkpoint like what people did in Maidan. But hey the freshly self proclaimed nazi government of yatsenyuk went batshit and decided to shoot stuff and people from Donetsk and Lughansk. Get your fact right.
But again who am I to know? Of course someone from Panama(obvious proxy is obvious) who just came to post less than a week ago absolutely know better than us.

- Russian shill asked :)

Repeating such nonsensical lies is not going to make them true.

1) Yanukovych tried to skip the country and requested an enemy invasion. The Ukrainian parliament then voted that he was unable to fulfill the duties of his office--exactly what the US Congress would have done if Obama had flown to Russia and asked Putin to attack New York.

2) After the change in government and the scheduling of elections, there was no violence in the country except from the Russian Empire's armed agents in Crimea.

3) Referring to eastern Ukrainians as "Russians" implies that they are all disloyal traitors. Not true. Polls show that a majority of Ukrainians in the eastern provinces do not want to join Russia:

[link to www.pewresearch.org]
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Those living in Ukraine’s East (26%) and South (19%) are somewhat more enthusiastic about the idea of reuniting Ukraine and Russia, but support falls to the single digits in the country’s Center (5%) and West (1%). Similarly, a 32%-minority of Russian-speakers think the two countries should merge, compared with just 9% among Ukrainian-speakers.
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yeah fishman is pretty fucked up, just contributes hatefull bullshit mostly, no actual insight.

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