Holy hell almighty check out the Bundy ranch place....

They have an apache helicopter on site. This is all very very bad. The military is officially patrolling the homeland in total violation of our constitution

You just keep right on believing there .... Pollyanna ..!!

link?
pics?

My fuckin stomach hurts. Going to vomit.

and another superficial, empty post. why dont you explain why i am wrong rather just saying it and name calling as if you were a child.

This could be real or propaganda created to inspire and invite violence by elements of the government to start a civil war/martial law. No matter what...this is getting very real.

I didn't take that into consideration. Someone on another thread mentioned that. Clearly if the militia were on the move they would not advertise of it.

Was the helicopter an Apache AH64?

Before you start telling people to "F" off fork over $10 bucks and support the site you visit.

I agree as I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe it's Mr. Bundy's helicopter if this comment following an article is true. He better do a head count on his children to make sure they haven't taken it out for a spin.

"Cliven Bundy is a millionaire with a ranch, 14 kids, 53 grandkids, an airplance, a helicopter, multiple water rights and have left junk scattered all over Gold Butte, like broken PVC pipes, barb wire, sheet metal, old tires and he is a menace. He is pretty much like Warren Jeffs, the polygamous prophet of the FLDS church who gets these crazy ideas and lives in a world of delusion."
[link to letstalknevada.com]

this is a "preemptive rights" issue.

The Preemption Act of 1841 => "appropriate the proceeds of the sales of public lands... and to grant 'pre-emption rights' to individuals" who were already living on federal lands

Thus Bundy had "pre-emption rights" and Clark County could not have purchased the land for $375,000 and then immediately closed it to "protect" the "Desert Tortoise."

That family was there before BLM was started. They spent their own money, not tax payers money, to create roads, bridges, improved the land, etc. That was the whole purpose of the Preemption Act.

Can you name a place they could relocate too? of course consider any federal agencies, including ones that are not created yet, that may effect them later.

fuck off

If that's true, I wonder why he didn't raise that issue in one of his court cases where they said:

“the public lands in Nevada are the property of the
United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when
Mexico ceded the land to the United States.”
[link to www.thewildlifenews.com]

There are some who keep saying that the guy should just give up and sell the property--that he is being silly' but, the point is that what happens when a person does not WANT to sell their family property. The government makes it look good--"here is our treaty with you." But, why do we have to sell and give up rights in order to live. Who gives the government (Mafia) the right to "make an offer we can't refuse?"

Yes, his life would have been easier and better if he had just done what they wanted him to do. That is true.

But the way the government is handling now is showing the real motivation. It is the motivation that was behind forcing Native American's off their land. It was the same motivation that allowed Kings and Czars to kill peasants for land. It is the same motivation that makes bullies take lunch money.

Sometime, somebody has to tell the bully they won't comply. It is easier to hand over the lunch money, but eventually you lose you soul if you never learn to stand up.

yup. there always seems to be more to the story than what the agitators for violence put out there...

Yes, but the point is that what happens when a person does not WANT to sell their family property. The government makes it look good--"here is our treaty with you." But, why do we have to sell and give up rights in order to live. Who gives the government (Mafia) the right to "make an offer we can't refuse?"

Yes, his life would have been easier and better if he had just done what they wanted him to do. That is true.

But the way the government is handling this situation shows the real motivation. It is the motivation that was behind forcing Native American's off their land. It was the same motivation that allowed Kings and Czars to kill peasants for land. It is the same motivation that makes bullies take lunch money.

Sometime, somebody has to tell the bully they won't comply. It is easier to hand over the lunch money, but eventually you lose you soul if you never learn to stand up.

This is all you need to know on what is going on ==> FRACKING:


BLM postpones Oil and Gas Lease "same day" sale that was scheduled for June 24, 2014 (Notice it is for Elko and Southern Nevada Districts):
[link to www.blm.gov]


Now look here under the June 24 postponed heading. Notice there is ONLY a listing for the Elko parcels NOT the Southern Nevada parcels:
[link to www.blm.gov]


Now would you believe how strange it is that Bundy's ranch is in the Southern Nevada District? Hmmmmmm

Look at how many leases BLM has sold. Did you know:
BLM is a significant revenue generator to the US Govt?

NOTE: BELOW "TAXPAYERS EARN" MEANS THE FED GOVT!
Each year, taxpayers earn more than $11 billion from the natural resources developed from the public lands and oceans (mainly from energy development...FRACKING)

"Nevada—is one of the largest nontax sources of revenue for U.S. taxpayers and is available for the benefit of all Americans."
[link to www.americanprogress.org]

in 2011:
"U.S. government collects roughly $10 billion annually in revenues from oil, gas and minerals on federal lands"
[link to www.revenuewatch.org]

Not understanding how we went from helicoptors to the fracking links you keep posting. Are you saying the .gov wants that land for fracking?

Do your links support that? Do you happen to have a link that isn't .gov, or could you copy and paste a portion so I can follow what you're getting at?

Last question, if you're saying it's fracking related, are the lands in this link involved?

• Bunkerville Allotment
• Mesquite Community Allotment
• Toquop Sheep Allotment
• Hen Springs Allotment
• Billy Goat Peak Allotment
• Gold Butte Allotment
• Lower Mormon Mesa Allotment
• Upper Mormon Mesa
• Flat Top Mesa
• Virgin River Bottom
• Lime Spring
• Azure Ridge
• Lake Mead National Recreation Area (Lake Mead NRA)
[link to letstalknevada.com]

Irreverent? It is a big deal or don't you think unnecessary censorship is a serious problem? Do you know what the Feds are doing now? They are tearing out all the watering stations on the BLM. These watering stations have been there since the first ranchers started using the scrub desert for grazing. They planted miles of pipe to water everything. The wild critters use that water and it helps the growth of plants all around the areas. The water ties the ranchers to the rights to graze. The real travesty is the theft of the water ... it is a big problem in these rights of us all, and especially where there is not enough.
The Feds have totally killed the San Joaquin Valley in Calif now ... so the fruit we have had from there is no more. Now they are stealing the watering stations and pipelines out of the desert grazing lands.
Obama has just arrived.

What is the standoff about???

Send in the Regulators!!!

Any photos of this helicopter to confirm it is military?

i was commenting on the update that "threads were being deleted"... can you read? you need to chill out with the emotion...

Are you ignorant or just love your gov?

Perhaps you need to heat up a little!

Bam!!!! Super pinned!!!!