How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith? | |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/13/2015 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh fake Jehovah witness aye i have news for you Jehovah only has one witness and its his Son Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70948553 To be a "witness" of something...is to bear testimony to the truth of something....so to be a Witness of God..is to bear testimony to the truth about him Christ set the example and encouraged his followers to do the same |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Wisconsin ... faith = the information given from GOD ... . ... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ... . ... this is my own working understanding ... . Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith? |
DGN User ID: 70420708 United States 12/14/2015 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BillyBob her cm an i think faith is wen ya believe the student knoz the teacher makes the rules rather then wen the student does like wen the tail try ta wag the dog cryin out loud. like the good book sayz "8 But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." Mt23;8 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70015407 Canada 12/14/2015 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6 Quoting: CelestialMaiden Blind faith = your "ideas" on assuming the religion. Somehow, is easy to understand - is ONE TRUTH and [too] many lies. Jesus Christ is the Truth. Anybody and anything else are anti-Truth aspects, demons. The Truth is in the Christianity (the Cross!) as cared, protected and understood in the Orthodoxy, only. So-called [other] Christian "churches" and "denomination" - all protestant sects included - are outside Jesus Christ's Church. They pray to self-designed God not the Lord, but demons. |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BillyBob her cm an i think faith is wen ya believe the student knoz the teacher makes the rules rather then wen the student does like wen the tail try ta wag the dog cryin out loud. like the good book sayz Quoting: DGN "8 But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." Mt23;8 Thank you Billy Bob for that fine explanation |
FOY User ID: 62983834 United States 12/14/2015 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree Quoting: FOY 62983834 Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith "Why have the nations been in tumult And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one, 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart And cast their cords away from us!” 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah himself will hold them in derision. 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them, 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king Upon Zion, my holy mountain.” 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father. 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession. 9 You will break them with an iron scepter, As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.” 10 And now, O kings, exercise insight; Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth. 11 Serve Jehovah with fear And be joyful with trembling. 12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed And YOU may not perish [from] the way, For his anger flares up easily. Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62983834 United States 12/14/2015 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree Quoting: FOY 62983834 Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith "Why have the nations been in tumult And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one, 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart And cast their cords away from us!” 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah himself will hold them in derision. 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them, 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king Upon Zion, my holy mountain.” 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father. 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession. 9 You will break them with an iron scepter, As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.” 10 And now, O kings, exercise insight; Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth. 11 Serve Jehovah with fear And be joyful with trembling. 12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed And YOU may not perish [from] the way, For his anger flares up easily. Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12 Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70719919 United States 12/14/2015 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Wisconsin ... faith = the information given from GOD ... . ... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ... . ... this is my own working understanding ... . Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith? . ... yep ... for me that is the "trustworthy" part ... . ... through my 63 year journey I've witnessed His Faithfulness to me ... . |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree Quoting: FOY 62983834 Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith "Why have the nations been in tumult And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one, 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart And cast their cords away from us!” 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah himself will hold them in derision. 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them, 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king Upon Zion, my holy mountain.” 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father. 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession. 9 You will break them with an iron scepter, As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.” 10 And now, O kings, exercise insight; Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth. 11 Serve Jehovah with fear And be joyful with trembling. 12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed And YOU may not perish [from] the way, For his anger flares up easily. Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12 Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed The Bible IS Jewish...The Old Testament being written by Jews, and in Hebrew The Old Testament has hundreds of prophecies about Christ, which he fullfilled in detail, including his sacrificial death |
CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Wisconsin ... faith = the information given from GOD ... . ... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ... . ... this is my own working understanding ... . Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith? . ... yep ... for me that is the "trustworthy" part ... . ... through my 63 year journey I've witnessed His Faithfulness to me ... . Well then you HAVE had proof.....that is a fantastic way to feel I would imagine.... |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/14/2015 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my life real faith is being without and knowing He will provide for the day . Quoting: Goofy for God I have seen Jehovah God personally answer the prayers of my friends, specific prayers that they offered...there are three friends in particular I have seen this consistently with....I love watching it happen....when they are kind enough to share with me that personal information |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62959689 United States 12/14/2015 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree Quoting: FOY 62983834 Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith "Why have the nations been in tumult And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one, 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart And cast their cords away from us!” 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah himself will hold them in derision. 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them, 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king Upon Zion, my holy mountain.” 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father. 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession. 9 You will break them with an iron scepter, As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.” 10 And now, O kings, exercise insight; Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth. 11 Serve Jehovah with fear And be joyful with trembling. 12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed And YOU may not perish [from] the way, For his anger flares up easily. Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12 Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed The Bible IS Jewish...The Old Testament being written by Jews, and in Hebrew The Old Testament has hundreds of prophecies about Christ, which he fullfilled in detail, including his sacrificial death No Shit ? What you gonna tell me Next ? The pope is Catholic ? The OT has something about Jesus because your reading him into it , he didn't fulfill messianic prophecy . |
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CelestialMaiden (OP) User ID: 70424374 United States 12/17/2015 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6 Quoting: CelestialMaiden the difference is intelligence. "Intelligent" people do not necessarily have either blind faith or true faith...... |
DGN User ID: 70420708 United States 12/20/2015 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BillyBob her an i think faith iz wen ya realize if the good lord kin make the earth and moon and sun an planets round, an keep em going round an round and not wobble away like flying Frisbees out ta space he gonna keep his promise fer global garden of Eden no matter wha anybody else plans. now looky her wha the good book says y'all "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away fer cryin out loud.” Rv21 Last Edited by DGN on 12/20/2015 12:54 AM |