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How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?

 
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How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
"Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6
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Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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blind faith is when u step out and do something and expect God to take care of it.....like buying an expensive car u cannot afford, but saying God will will make the payments
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blind faith is when u step out and do something and expect God to take care of it.....like buying an expensive car u cannot afford, but saying God will will make the payments
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I like that.....good one!dance
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Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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Here is your back up for that

"Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld."- Hebrews 11:1
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So here is a question regarding faith....why do some have it and others do not?
" for faith is not a possession of all people."- 2 Thessalonians 3:2
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What strange fake bible are you using
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Oh fake Jehovah witness aye i have news for you Jehovah only has one witness and its his Son
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What strange fake bible are you using
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Is not the scripture posted just what you said only in quote?
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Oh fake Jehovah witness aye i have news for you Jehovah only has one witness and its his Son
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To be a "witness" of something...is to bear testimony to the truth of something....so to be a Witness of God..is to bear testimony to the truth about him

Christ set the example and encouraged his followers to do the same
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Re: How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
Blind faith is faith with no questions asked. RATIONAL faith is a set of beliefs of which reason and conscience approve. Source: teachings of J.E. Richardson in his book "The Great Work". If you are interested, this and his other books can be downloaded free from www.gsns.org.
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... faith = the information given from GOD ...
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... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ...
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... this is my own working understanding ...
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... faith = the information given from GOD ...
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... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ...
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... this is my own working understanding ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith?
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BillyBob her cm an i think faith is wen ya believe the student knoz the teacher makes the rules rather then wen the student does like wen the tail try ta wag the dog cryin out loud. like the good book sayz
"8 But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." Mt23;8
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The strongest Faith is the "Faith without Fear"abomb
Faith without fear
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"Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Blind faith = your "ideas" on assuming the religion.
Somehow, is easy to understand - is ONE TRUTH and [too] many lies.
Jesus Christ is the Truth.
Anybody and anything else are anti-Truth aspects, demons.
The Truth is in the Christianity (the Cross!) as cared, protected and understood in the Orthodoxy, only.
So-called [other] Christian "churches" and "denomination" - all protestant sects included - are outside Jesus Christ's Church.
They pray to self-designed God not the Lord, but demons.
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BillyBob her cm an i think faith is wen ya believe the student knoz the teacher makes the rules rather then wen the student does like wen the tail try ta wag the dog cryin out loud. like the good book sayz
"8 But YOU, do not YOU be called Rabbi, for one is YOUR teacher, whereas all YOU are brothers. 9 Moreover, do not call anyone YOUR father on earth, for one is YOUR Father, the heavenly One. 10 Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. 11 But the greatest one among YOU must be YOUR minister. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted." Mt23;8
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Thank you Billy Bob for that fine explanation
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Re: How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree

Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith
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Re: How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree

Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith
 Quoting: FOY 62983834


God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith


"Why have the nations been in tumult
And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
 2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!”
 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain.”
 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: “You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
 9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”
10 And now, O kings, exercise insight;
Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear
And be joyful with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12
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Re: How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree

Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith
 Quoting: FOY 62983834


God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith


"Why have the nations been in tumult
And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
 2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!”
 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain.”
 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: “You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
 9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”
10 And now, O kings, exercise insight;
Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear
And be joyful with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed
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... faith = the information given from GOD ...
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... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ...
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... this is my own working understanding ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


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... yep ... for me that is the "trustworthy" part ...
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... through my 63 year journey I've witnessed His Faithfulness to me ...
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... faith = the information given from GOD ...
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... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ...
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... this is my own working understanding ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


Nicely put
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Re: How would you define ""Faith"?- What is the difference between "blind faith" and real faith?
Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree

Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith
 Quoting: FOY 62983834


God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith


"Why have the nations been in tumult
And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
 2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!”
 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain.”
 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: “You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
 9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”
10 And now, O kings, exercise insight;
Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear
And be joyful with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62983834


The Bible IS Jewish...The Old Testament being written by Jews, and in Hebrew

The Old Testament has hundreds of prophecies about Christ, which he fullfilled in detail, including his sacrificial death
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... faith = the information given from GOD ...
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... and faith is related to trusting that information to be true and believing it is trustworthy ...
.
... this is my own working understanding ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Nice thoughts.....should one believe without any proof...or would proof be a valuable aid to faith?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


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... yep ... for me that is the "trustworthy" part ...
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... through my 63 year journey I've witnessed His Faithfulness to me ...
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 Quoting: Wisconsin


Well then you HAVE had proof.....that is a fantastic way to feel I would imagine....
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In my life real faith is being without and knowing He will provide for the day . hf
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In my life real faith is being without and knowing He will provide for the day . hf
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I have seen Jehovah God personally answer the prayers of my friends, specific prayers that they offered...there are three friends in particular I have seen this consistently with....I love watching it happen....when they are kind enough to share with me that personal information
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Faith is trust in God and this trust logically must produce obedience towards God and his rules and regulations and decree

Blind faith is something like Christianity and or slash the heretical branch called Jehovah's Witnesses they put their faith in a man not in God and They believe this man died for their sins which contradicts the Torah and the Tanakh and they put their trust in the NT which is Unispired document and the earliest fragment of the Gospel we have is 100 years after Jesus died so pretty much blind faith
 Quoting: FOY 62983834


God tells us to put faith in his provision of the death of his Son....I would say that is true faith...rather than blind faith


"Why have the nations been in tumult
And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
 2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!”
 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain.”
 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: “You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
 9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”
10 And now, O kings, exercise insight;
Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear
And be joyful with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him."- Psalms 2:1-12
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Your Translation is Different that the Jewish version. And actually God tells us Quite plainly in Scipture how to be Righteous .. QUIT SINNING . Jesus is not needed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62983834


The Bible IS Jewish...The Old Testament being written by Jews, and in Hebrew

The Old Testament has hundreds of prophecies about Christ, which he fullfilled in detail, including his sacrificial death
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


No Shit ? What you gonna tell me Next ? The pope is Catholic ?

The OT has something about Jesus because your reading him into it , he didn't fulfill messianic prophecy .
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No Shit ? What you gonna tell me Next ? The pope is Catholic ?

The OT has something about Jesus because your reading him into it , he didn't fulfill messianic prophecy .
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... interesting ... you jewish? ...
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"Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

the difference is intelligence.
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"Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him."- Hebrews 11:6
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

the difference is intelligence.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


"Intelligent" people do not necessarily have either blind faith or true faith......
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BillyBob her an i think faith iz wen ya realize if the good lord kin make the earth and moon and sun an planets round, an keep em going round an round and not wobble away like flying Frisbees out ta space he gonna keep his promise fer global garden of Eden no matter wha anybody else plans. now looky her wha the good book says y'all
"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away fer cryin out loud.” Rv21

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