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The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Swedish Mauser, a WW2 era surplus rifle. Ammunition will be expensive and difficult to find. The rifle, too. Easy to find all over the net. Hit what you aim at and others get the hint. Well if they're hard to find, that's not a huge deal, but limited ammo would probably nix that option...unless you know of a supplier that the other ac doesn't know about.. MnB15 |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does this have to do with the discussion? Promoting another site? Last Edited by LJS on 05/19/2017 01:11 PM MnB15 |
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DRGONZO User ID: 74922735 United States 05/19/2017 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure you write "For all legal purposes" on your 'reason for permit' part of your NY application..hopefully you'll have a county Judge who's 2nd amendment friendly and you'll get concealed carry. If you say just for home or property thats the only place you can carry it (trust me I'm in NY) Anyway while you wait Mossberg 500 20Ga (But 12 ga is fun too) Any 30-30 lever action mine is an old Marlin 336 (before Marlin was bought out by Remmy) Between those two you'll be able to handle any animal on four (or two) legs that you may encounter in NY state! Now go watch some Hickock45 and take out some two liters! |
X1811 User ID: 74892059 United States 05/19/2017 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Defense of course. Shotgun for close encounters, rifle for those approaching my property lol I wouldn't rule out a 12 gauge (most versatile and effective HD/SD rounds). Many ammo companies make a low recoil or "tactical" buckshot. My former agency used a 14" Rem 870 with low recoil buckshot and the tiniest of female agents could shoot with no problem. Whoever suggested a youth stock was on track, in short and don't like full size stocks. Check out the Hogue L.O.P., is super comfy hard rubber and short pull. As for rifles, one advantage of a semi auto weapon system is the gas operation mitigates recoil. My short AR-16 with a muzzle brake/comp has no recoil. A lot of ranges have women only classes, and they may be able to give you some great hand on try outs. All characters and events in this forum --even those based on real people-- are entirely fictional. All celebrity comments are impersonated...poorly. The above post contains coarse language and due to the content it should not be viewed by anyone. |
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The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure you write "For all legal purposes" on your 'reason for permit' part of your NY application..hopefully you'll have a county Judge who's 2nd amendment friendly and you'll get concealed carry. Quoting: DRGONZO If you say just for home or property thats the only place you can carry it (trust me I'm in NY) Anyway while you wait Mossberg 500 20Ga (But 12 ga is fun too) Any 30-30 lever action mine is an old Marlin 336 (before Marlin was bought out by Remmy) Between those two you'll be able to handle any animal on four (or two) legs that you may encounter in NY state! Now go watch some Hickock45 and take out some two liters! Thank you! Onondaga county, so I'll be lucky if I'm granted a squirt gun lol Yes I've read on a few forums to put down target practice and personal protection. Apparently even people with lawyers aren't able to get CCWs. MnB15 |
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Lost Lady User ID: 34846723 United States 05/19/2017 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Browning 243 X-bolt. I LOVE it! It has a very minimal recoil, it has a great design for the shoulder rest too...no ouchies. It's very accurate and has a really good distance capability. But, that's for long range. In the house, I keep a Ruger 357, loaded with Hornady Critical Defence ammo. My daughter has her Smith & Wesson Colt 45 as well. All three shoot very nicely and don't have much for recoil. I'm embarrassed to say that I've also a cheap, pretty much throwaway, Highpoint 9mm...but it is only a back up last resort. I don't recommend it to anyone. It's slide is very stiff, it's not very accurate, and it sometimes jams up. I don't like it at all, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. You know, the more the merrier! I hope this helps? No matter what, practice and get to know whatever you choose to purchase VERY well. The last thing you want to do is feel uncomfortable or nervous when it's time to use your new baby. Last Edited by Lost Lady on 05/19/2017 12:40 PM "They can only hold you down if you let them". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68717544 United States 05/19/2017 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Swedish Mauser, a WW2 era surplus rifle. Ammunition will be expensive and difficult to find. The rifle, too. Easy to find all over the net. Hit what you aim at and others get the hint. Availability is a little better than I expected, yes. Still, if I'm going to recommend a first/only rifle, it's going to be something with reliable domestic ammo production and that virtually anyone can find locally if needed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73201965 United States 05/19/2017 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's going to take a while to get permitted here in NY, so in the mean time I'd like to purchase a shotgun and rifle. I know there's plenty of threads on guns, however I'd like to discuss these 2 particular styles. Quoting: The Deplorable MnB15 Any suggestions? For the shotgun, I'd like ease of use and minimal recoil, if that's possible. The rifle should have minimal recoil as well, along with great accuracy (yes, I know user input is the key factor in that, but I also know some designs are better than others) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much! Sks would be a great option if you can find one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197478 United States 05/19/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget, for long range shooting, the Earth is flat, so you don't have to worry about the curvature of the...Earth. Last Edited by LJS on 05/19/2017 01:05 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73201965 United States 05/19/2017 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 30-30 is an ammunition cartridge that's most commonly used in lever action rifles. The Marlin 336 and Winchester 94 are two very popular '30-30s', for example. 30-30 lever guns are incredible weapons but take some mechanical inclination.. |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget, for long range shooting, the Earth is flat, so you don't have to worry about the curvature of the...Earth. LOL....no worries, I already purchased a FE scope!! Last Edited by LJS on 05/19/2017 01:05 PM MnB15 |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 30-30 is an ammunition cartridge that's most commonly used in lever action rifles. The Marlin 336 and Winchester 94 are two very popular '30-30s', for example. 30-30 lever guns are incredible weapons but take some mechanical inclination.. I can re-build a car and make home made flame throwers...is that mechanical inclination? lol MnB15 |
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Lost Lady User ID: 34846723 United States 05/19/2017 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Browning 243 X-bolt. I LOVE it! It has a very minimal recoil, it has a great design for the shoulder rest too...no ouchies. It's very accurate and has a really good distance capability. But, that's for long range. In the house, I keep a Ruger 357, loaded with Hornady Critical Defence ammo. My daughter has her Smith & Wesson Colt 45 as well. All three shoot very nicely and don't have much for recoil. I'm embarrassed to say that I've also a cheap, pretty much throwaway, Highpoint 9mm...but it is only a back up last resort. I don't recommend it to anyone. It's slide is very stiff, it's not very accurate, and it sometimes jams up. I don't like it at all, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. You know, the more the merrier! I hope this helps? No matter what, practice and get to know whatever you choose to purchase VERY well. The last thing you want to do is feel uncomfortable or nervous when it's time to use your new baby. Quoting: Lost Lady Just from another woman's point of view, of course. I had shoulder surgery, steel mill has not been nice to me over the years, and was also concerned with recoil. I swear, this 243 is all I've claimed it to be. "They can only hold you down if you let them". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73201965 United States 05/19/2017 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 30-30 is an ammunition cartridge that's most commonly used in lever action rifles. The Marlin 336 and Winchester 94 are two very popular '30-30s', for example. 30-30 lever guns are incredible weapons but take some mechanical inclination.. I can re-build a car and make home made flame throwers...is that mechanical inclination? lol Your good to go. Check out an sks they're one of the most highly regarded survival weapons around. |
MarPep User ID: 74921145 United States 05/19/2017 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ruger 10/22 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68852818 Ruger Mini-14.Same round as most ARs without the scary stigma. Mossberg 500 in 12 GA or 20 for a lighter round. Ruger also makes the mini-30. It uses the cheap and plentiful 7.62x39 ammo--much better for deer than the .223 in mini-14 _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
DRGONZO User ID: 74922735 United States 05/19/2017 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure you write "For all legal purposes" on your 'reason for permit' part of your NY application..hopefully you'll have a county Judge who's 2nd amendment friendly and you'll get concealed carry. Quoting: DRGONZO If you say just for home or property thats the only place you can carry it (trust me I'm in NY) Anyway while you wait Mossberg 500 20Ga (But 12 ga is fun too) Any 30-30 lever action mine is an old Marlin 336 (before Marlin was bought out by Remmy) Between those two you'll be able to handle any animal on four (or two) legs that you may encounter in NY state! Now go watch some Hickock45 and take out some two liters! Thank you! Onondaga county, so I'll be lucky if I'm granted a squirt gun lol Yes I've read on a few forums to put down target practice and personal protection. Apparently even people with lawyers aren't able to get CCWs. DON"T put personal protection...thats a one way ticket to a denial. The Judge will think you have someone after you or that you yourself will target somebody...Guys at my local gun shop and local hunting guides (who all have CC's) always told me "For all lawful purposes"...that lets you take it anywhere. good luck Onandaga's tough because of Syracuse... It all depends on who the county Judge is signing off on it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68717544 United States 05/19/2017 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Browning 243 X-bolt. I LOVE it! It has a very minimal recoil, it has a great design for the shoulder rest too...no ouchies. It's very accurate and has a really good distance capability. But, that's for long range. In the house, I keep a Ruger 357, loaded with Hornady Critical Defence ammo. My daughter has her Smith & Wesson Colt 45 as well. All three shoot very nicely and don't have much for recoil. I'm embarrassed to say that I've also a cheap, pretty much throwaway, Highpoint 9mm...but it is only a back up last resort. I don't recommend it to anyone. It's slide is very stiff, it's not very accurate, and it sometimes jams up. I don't like it at all, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. You know, the more the merrier! I hope this helps? No matter what, practice and get to know whatever you choose to purchase VERY well. The last thing you want to do is feel uncomfortable or nervous when it's time to use your new baby. Quoting: Lost Lady Just from another woman's point of view, of course. I had shoulder surgery, steel mill has not been nice to me over the years, and was also concerned with recoil. I swear, this 243 is all I've claimed it to be. Honestly, I don't know why .243 isn't more popular among non-hunters. It has a reputation for burning out barrels quickly, but if you want a laser beam, .243 is about as close as you're going to get. |
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Underground_Dude User ID: 74834921 United States 05/19/2017 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Howdy OP: MY suggestion, Find an NRA affiliated shooting range near you, give them a call and ask them if they have an instructor that could show you different rifles and shotguns on the range. This way you have an expert that knows the weapons and can help you choose what's best for you AND do it at minimal cost before you purchase the weapon. |
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Lost Lady User ID: 34846723 United States 05/19/2017 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would be the benefits of bolt action over clip? Other than reliability? Personally I would like something that would fire quickly without having to load each round. Quoting: The Deplorable MnB15 that is why i suggested a lever action rifle My Browning 243 does have a clip. And, the X-bolt action is just as quick as a lever action. Seriously, check it out. I'll try sending a link without being banned... "They can only hold you down if you let them". |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Browning 243 X-bolt. I LOVE it! It has a very minimal recoil, it has a great design for the shoulder rest too...no ouchies. It's very accurate and has a really good distance capability. But, that's for long range. In the house, I keep a Ruger 357, loaded with Hornady Critical Defence ammo. My daughter has her Smith & Wesson Colt 45 as well. All three shoot very nicely and don't have much for recoil. I'm embarrassed to say that I've also a cheap, pretty much throwaway, Highpoint 9mm...but it is only a back up last resort. I don't recommend it to anyone. It's slide is very stiff, it's not very accurate, and it sometimes jams up. I don't like it at all, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. You know, the more the merrier! I hope this helps? No matter what, practice and get to know whatever you choose to purchase VERY well. The last thing you want to do is feel uncomfortable or nervous when it's time to use your new baby. Quoting: Lost Lady Just from another woman's point of view, of course. I had shoulder surgery, steel mill has not been nice to me over the years, and was also concerned with recoil. I swear, this 243 is all I've claimed it to be. Thanks Lost Lady! MnB15 |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure you write "For all legal purposes" on your 'reason for permit' part of your NY application..hopefully you'll have a county Judge who's 2nd amendment friendly and you'll get concealed carry. Quoting: DRGONZO If you say just for home or property thats the only place you can carry it (trust me I'm in NY) Anyway while you wait Mossberg 500 20Ga (But 12 ga is fun too) Any 30-30 lever action mine is an old Marlin 336 (before Marlin was bought out by Remmy) Between those two you'll be able to handle any animal on four (or two) legs that you may encounter in NY state! Now go watch some Hickock45 and take out some two liters! Thank you! Onondaga county, so I'll be lucky if I'm granted a squirt gun lol Yes I've read on a few forums to put down target practice and personal protection. Apparently even people with lawyers aren't able to get CCWs. DON"T put personal protection...thats a one way ticket to a denial. The Judge will think you have someone after you or that you yourself will target somebody...Guys at my local gun shop and local hunting guides (who all have CC's) always told me "For all lawful purposes"...that lets you take it anywhere. good luck Onandaga's tough because of Syracuse... It all depends on who the county Judge is signing off on it. Thanks!! MnB15 |
The Deplorable MnB15 (OP) User ID: 58787380 United States 05/19/2017 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would be the benefits of bolt action over clip? Other than reliability? Personally I would like something that would fire quickly without having to load each round. Quoting: The Deplorable MnB15 that is why i suggested a lever action rifle My Browning 243 does have a clip. And, the X-bolt action is just as quick as a lever action. Seriously, check it out. I'll try sending a link without being banned... You cam PM me MnB15 |
Lost Lady User ID: 34846723 United States 05/19/2017 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a Browning 243 X-bolt. I LOVE it! It has a very minimal recoil, it has a great design for the shoulder rest too...no ouchies. It's very accurate and has a really good distance capability. But, that's for long range. In the house, I keep a Ruger 357, loaded with Hornady Critical Defence ammo. My daughter has her Smith & Wesson Colt 45 as well. All three shoot very nicely and don't have much for recoil. I'm embarrassed to say that I've also a cheap, pretty much throwaway, Highpoint 9mm...but it is only a back up last resort. I don't recommend it to anyone. It's slide is very stiff, it's not very accurate, and it sometimes jams up. I don't like it at all, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of it. You know, the more the merrier! I hope this helps? No matter what, practice and get to know whatever you choose to purchase VERY well. The last thing you want to do is feel uncomfortable or nervous when it's time to use your new baby. Quoting: Lost Lady Just from another woman's point of view, of course. I had shoulder surgery, steel mill has not been nice to me over the years, and was also concerned with recoil. I swear, this 243 is all I've claimed it to be. Thanks Lost Lady! You're most welcome! Here is a link... [link to www.browning.com] "They can only hold you down if you let them". |