Your Last Ever Supermarket Shopping Spree

STILL DONE NOTHING¿

How you are going to kick yourself one day soon.

If you think that stockpiling some basics is important then please give this thread a bump now and then so that others can read it.

Maybe a few more days left before TSHTF, then it will be toooooooooo late.

better stock on blackelderberry extract :)

Good morning, it's later than you think....

This was my first look at "Zeta-stuff". After cruising a few pages, I wondered:

1. Why would anyone use aluminum pans for a distiller? What's worse... aluminum in your drinking water, or some other contaminant?

2. On the Elite Exit page ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] it mentions the coastal area of Pennsylvania. But PA isn't on the coast.

I'm just sayin'...

Posting was wierdly truncated....
Should say:

2. On the Elite Exit page it mentions the coastal area of Pennsylvania. But PA isn't on the coast.

I'm just sayin'...

Hmmmm,

somehow I think that it's round about time to bump this one again. I rather think that things will get quite intresting this coming December.

I have always thought 'they' would 'do it' in winter time. It is harder to travel on foot and the elderly will slow everyone down. I am one item away from an apocolyptic rouge, and that item is a 4 season mountaineering jacket, green of course.

Good stuff, OP.

Doesn't seem like fear-mongering to me. The dystopian scenarios are not all that far-fetched, IMHO. Yes, it is frightening to contemplate, but entirely within the realm of possibility.

As always with this sort of advice, even if nothing bad happens, it is never a mistake to prepare. All these things that are purchased are basically just another form of savings. The idea is to have enough on hand so you can fall back upon your savings if you need it. Obviously, with perishables, they have to be worked into a rotation in the interim. What you are talking about is a "rainy day" fund.

I agree on the canned tomatoes. Cheap and can be made into delicious meals very simply.

Any comments on canned Mackerel. Very cheap. Comes in nice big cans. Has lots of bones in it for calcium and is nice on the O-3's. I'm guessing that sardines are mercury free because of size/age factors, and that meat from larger/older fish has collected more toxins?

Anyhow, I love this stuff, even if it is WooWoo. I am really impressed with the knowledge and preparation that some of you have. You are very helpful.

A book that I loved as a boy, and still have and love, is "The Book of Woodcraft" by Ernest Thompson-Seton, that is full of a ll kinds of useful knowledge. It is probably rare.

Thanks again!

Buy and store the materials needed to build a big solar still.

[link to www.permapak.net]

Better illustration...

[link to www.thefarm.org]

Thermos Cooking: (An old but still relevant article)


The Survival Foods And Gardening Section

SAVING MONEY WITH
A THERMOS BOTTLE

By Kurt Saxon

Many subscribers write that they will eventually buy all my books but they can't afford them at this time. Many are students on limited allowances. Some are on Social Security or pensions. Others are on Welfare, as I was after an injury, when I got $86.00 per month in l969. I paid $50.00 for rent and had only $36.00 left for food and incidentals. Even so, I ate better than before. Prices were indeed lower then but, surprisingly, the costs of the more basic foods have hardly changed.

For instance, 60 pounds of hard red winter wheat, the highest in protein, minerals and vitamins, averages $8.00 (240 breakfasts at 4 cents each). Brown rice, also higher in nutrition than white, costs $14.00 for 25 pounds. Also 200 servings since rice swells twice as large as wheat. These are bought in bulk at any feed and seed store.

Wheat and rice are the staple foods of billions and, if prepared my way, will fill you up, give you boundless energy; and cost nothing, if you consider that the saving in gas or electricity will offset their purchase prices.

I do not mean that wheat and rice, plain, is what I am asking you to live on. When is the last time you have eaten a potato plain? I am simply suggesting you process all your food in inexpensive, energy-saving ways and eat better than you ever have for less than $10.00 per week. Then you can not only afford all my books but many other things you have wanted but had to do without because most of your food budget goes to pay others to do what you should learn to do for yourself.

The thermos and the dehydrator are first steps in eating better for so much less. As a Survivalist, you will have to understand food preparation or you might as well eat, drink and be merry in the short time you have left.

A great factor which makes this practical and easy to understand is that since it is by a man, it is basic, gut-level and moron-simple. You won't even need to open a cookbook.

First the thermos. There are three kinds but only one is practical. Forget the cheap, plastic ones lined with Styrofoam. These might cook oatmeal and white rice but do not have the heat holding power you need. Silvered glass thermoses are fine, but a bump will break them. Also, since you are going to do actual cooking and will use a fork to remove the contents, they will not hold up.

The only practical cooking thermos is the Aladdin Stanley. It is lined with stainless steel, is well insulated and will keep steaming hot for up to 24 hours and holds a quart. It is also unbreakable, with a lifetime warranty. It costs $22.00 at Wal-Mart or can be ordered through any sporting goods store. It would save you its price in a few days. If you have a family, get two or three.

Most foods cook at 180 degrees or more. We are used to boiling, which is 212 degrees, and foods do cook faster, the higher the temperature. But if time is not important, cooking at a lower temperature is even better as most vitamins are not broken down. Thus, if you cook at a minimum heat, you save nutrition.

A great factor in thermos cooking is the saving in the cost of energy. Whereas it would take about two hours to cook whole-grain wheat or nearly an hour to cook brown rice. Thermos cookery takes only five minutes to cook anything. So it is indeed possible to save as much in energy as you spend on the food. You can imagine the convenience of thermos cookery in camping, which would save on wood, weight of food carried, and no food odors to alert bears or enemies.

Thermos cookery is also an advantage to anyone living where he is not allowed to cook. There are no cooking odors to tip off the landlord.

First, you need the thermos. Then you need a heat source. If you are in a non-cooking room, buy a cheap, one burner hot plate from your local Wal-Mart, Target, Sears etc. You will need a one quart saucepan. You will also need a special funnel to quickly pour the pan's contents into the thermos, plus a spoon or fork to help the last of the food into the funnel.

To make the funnel, cut off the bottom four inches from a gallon plastic milk container. If you do not buy milk or cannot find an empty container, go to your nearest laundromat. You will find in the trash receptacle, an empty gallon bleach bottle. Use that the same as the milk container but wash it until there is no more bleach odor.

The first step in thermos cookery is to fill the thermos with water up to the point reached by the stopper. Empty the water into the saucepan and make a scratch or other indelible mark at the water's surface inside the saucepan. This will allow you to put just enough water in the saucepan, as too much will leave food out and too little will give you less cooking water.

Just to test how the cooker works, start with four ounces of wheat. You do not need to buy 60 pounds. You can buy two pounds from your health food store for about $.80 This would give you eight meals at 10 cents each.

In the evening, put four ounces in your saucepan, plus a half-teaspoon of salt to prevent flatness, even if you intend to sweeten it. Fill to the mark with water. (If you have hot water, let the tap run until it is hottest. Tests have shown that less energy is used in using hot tap water than in boiling from cold.) Bring the contents to a rolling boil, stirring all the while. This will take from three to five minutes.

Then quickly, but carefully, swirl and pour the contents into the funnel and help any lagging matter from the pan to the funnel and into the thermos. Cap firmly but not tightly, shake and lay the thermos on its side, to keep the contents even.

Next morning open the thermos and pour its contents into the saucepan. With four ounces of dry wheat, you will now have at least 3/4 pound of cooked wheat and about a pint of vitamin and mineral enriched water. It has a pleasant taste. Drink it.

You can now put milk and sweetener on it or margarine, salt and pepper, etc. If you can eat the whole 3/4 of a pound, you will be surprised at how energetic you feel for the next several hours. An added bonus is its high fiber content.

Having tried the four ounce portion, you might next use eight ounces. This will absorb most of the water. It is unlikely that you could eat a pound and a half of cooked whole grain wheat. You can either divide it and eat the other half for supper or if you are a family man, make it the family breakfast food to replace the expensive brand.

If you have children, get them into the act by fantasizing they are Rangers on a jungle patrol.

For lunch, prepare a few ounces of hamburger or other meat chopped finely, plus chopped potatoes and other vegetables the night before. After breakfast, put these and the right amount of water in the saucepan and prepare as usual. At lunchtime you will have a quart of really delicious stew. Since nothing leaves the thermos in cooking, as contrasted to the flavor leaving stew cooking on the stove, you can understand the better tasting, higher vitamin content of thermos stew.

Lunch and possibly supper should not cost you more than 25 cents if you study the article on the dehydrator. Jerky and dried vegetable stew is good and costs little.

The brown rice dishes could also be either a main course or desert. Brown rice has a much greater swelling factor than wheat so four ounces of rice will pretty much fill the thermos. You can put vegetables and meat in it to cook or try a favorite of mine. It is four ounces of brown rice, 9 cents; one ounce of powdered milk, 10 cents in a large box; two ounces of raisins, 22 cents; one teaspoon of salt; some cinnamon and four saccharine tablets. Cook overnight. This is 46 cents for 1 1/2 pounds of desert.

With some experimenting, you can become an expert in thermos cookery. If you are single and live alone, you could, conceivably, eat nothing except what you cooked in a thermos. But if you are married, and especially if you have children, don't push it. Even with the economy of this system, it's not worth alienating your family. If your wife doesn't like it, challenge her to make the food tastier and think up some thermos recipes. You might also tell her the advantages of thermos cookery.

For one thing, she would spend much less time in the kitchen. What with the expected brownouts, she could do all the cooking in five, ten, fifteen minutes, depending on how many thermos bottles she used. Another important factor is that, especially during the heat waves, the home would not suffer the added heat from the kitchen. This would also cut down on the air conditioning costs.

A tip you may not have known is that the pilot light in a gas stove not only raises the temperature in the kitchen but also accounts for a fourth of all the gas burned in the stove. Matches are much cheaper. Turn the pilot light off.

Be sure to get SURVIVOR Vol. 1 for a full course on inexpensive but tasty and nourishing food, plus sprouting for green vegetables, soy milk, tofu, etc.

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[link to www.kurtsaxon.com]

perhaps this will move one more person to action

bump

Well all we need now is another little military adventure in Iran and away we go.

Yipie i a. Ghost riders in the sky.

peanut butter....protein, high fat, dense, cheap

bump

wow 19.47 I didnt realize you were alot like me along time ago...this is a good thread and I missed it...it must of been my AC days

Avian

Hi 644515 and Avian,

Thanks for the bumps. I spent ages on the "comedy" intro for page 1, that's my take on the average GLPer. More seriously though quite a few people contributed some neat posts and it finished up as quite a good thread.

Hopefully now that it's back on page 1 it might persuade a few more people to stock up while they still can.

Anyway please give it a bump if you liked it.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 03/28/2009 09:12 AM

Be prepped and you won't have to deal with the last minute Larrys/Lisas and their panicky antics.....

Bottled bleach loses its strength over time. Instead, go to the pool supply store and get a bucket of that dry chlorine pool shock they use in swimming pools. It is 100% chlorine and does not lose its strength over time. One 5 pound bucket has more chlorine in it than 30 bottles of bleach.

A first aid kit -- filled with a couple months' supply of any prescription meds you're on, peroxide, rubbing alcohol, Betadine solution, sterile fabric bandages.

Rechargeable batteries with a solar powered recharger. Once the riots pass, you'll get bored sitting around the house without any music.

Also: Shotgun shells. And any little luxuries that might be cheap to stock up on now, and would be neat to have later: chewing gum, instant coffee, etc.

Safety pins for when sippers break.
Duct tape, always has a use.
Kirk's castille soap--works a lather even in ice cold water, and barely any scent.

I would just head for my boat ... It's ready for just this.

Thanks OP

I never knew this thread was so old or that Hold the Phone had revealed HIS gender here ;-)

DUH! You know no offense but when people speak the truth, why is it always doom and gloom. I think people should appreciate a warning, open their eyes, do some research, and prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.