GENESIS: Really Means Genes of Isis or Generation of Isis

Beware of the wolves in your midst.

This guy admits to being a sinner.

God only knows what evil is in his heart.

It's relevance is the issue.."Apparently meaning" To me it means the issue is still debatable as to its original meaning and the definition "beginning" is nothing more than an educated guess at best...

No diversionary tactics on my part, but it seems to be your mode of operation...Relevance, this is indeed the whole issue of the post..



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Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
If your sensibilities are that delicate, then I suggest you never leave home...

And as to Jesus being kind, loving, king of peace etc.
like father, like son.

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34

Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine

Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20

Jesus, whose clothes are dipped in blood, has a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth. Thus attired, he treads the winepress of the wrath of God. (The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up.) Revelations 19:13-15

The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest of us the unchosen will be killed with the sword of Jesus. “An all the fowls were filled with their flesh.” Revelations 19:20-21

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7

Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9

Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25

Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse. Mark 5:12-13

Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing figs, even though it was out of season. Jesus must not be as smart as Christians would have us believe, for he was retarded enough to do something this silly. You’d think the son of god (god incarnate) would know that trees don’t bear fruit in dry season. Mark 11:13

Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.

Nope.

Cant connect any of that up.

No relation.

Just looks connectable.

Be most aware of she who denies it, for the truth is not in her.

I roared out loud when i first read your response,The OP!

Then i thunk to myshelf,"You know what?"

A Hard Truth Thread was my conduit to express a very personal altered state & experience,and for that i'm grateful.

More important then me however,is that Hard Truth(imo),
is similar in style to the manager of a great park of
wonders & potential epiphany.

The fact that through his threads one can access and sojourn
into 'worlds of thought and imagination,I believe is invaluable,not to mention i'm a fan of other that Hebrew History,Egyptian for example or Greek...and Yes those Romans.

That being established,use caution when crossing unfamiliar
bridges.



Sax

Peace

This person has admitted to being a sinner.

And refused to answer for his sins, or tell us how he is sinning.

Do the math.

This chick is dense.

The idea that woman was created from man is indeed Phallacious.

It is more logical that man was created from woman. He still has those vestiges of a woman's body.

Bees and ants who are not needed for reproduction are all females. It seems to be the default sex.

Then let the debate begin, by all means! Please show me some reputable etymological evidence that supports the theory that genesis means anything but beginning.

Assertions without any credible support have no bearing whatsoever with me. I do question - literally everything.

Should I make an assertion, I'll gladly offer links or c/p information to lend credence to my claims. I take very little at face value, HT. I am too old to play "oops, they got me again" anymore.

I spent years, HT, entertaining notions such as what you have stipulated in this thread. I do not have years left to waste. Time is a precious gift. I have come to the conclusions, that I maintain as bulwarks of my life and morality, after years of bouncing from one supposed truth to another.

You presume that I chose Christianity due to the fact that I was raised to do such. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

I chose Christianity because the Spirit of the Living God filled my heart and opened my eyes. That which is spiritual is not discerned by the fleshly temporal senses. It is, however, more real that what one tastes, touches, and sees.

It is eternal.

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[link to www.remnantofgod.org]

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What "living" god are you talking about?

Why isn't it on CNN?

The only one.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor and mockery is an indication of character deficiency. Should you desire to engage me on an intellectual basis, I'll gladly play.

Should you desire to mock me, please attempt to be creative and utilize some form of humor that extends well beyond the reach of the intellectual bourgeois such as malapropism.

Originality will result in the bequeethment of 2 points.

Dr. Adam Weishaupt was a professor of cannon law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria. He was educated as a Jesuit priest, was an adept Rosicrucian,(18) admitted to raising ghosts,(19) exorcising or casting out spirits, and knew the Cabala (also spelled Qabbala, Kabbalah, etc)--which is Jewish mysticism or witchcraft.(20) He also founded an Order of the Illuminati, or The Order, around May of 1776 in Bavaria.(21)
One foundational principle of Weishaupt's Order of the Illuminati comes from the Gnostics, which the sorcerer Simon Magus borrowed his mysteries from, and then mixed them with Christianity.(22) Another group of Gnostics were called the Nicolaitans, who were followers of a deacon named Nicolas in the era of the early Christian Church.(23)
What does Gnostic or Gnosticism mean?
"Gnosticism, a hybrid system of ancient Greek and Oriental philosophy, modified by an attempted synthesis with Christian doctrine, marked especially by the asserted possession of a superior spiritual knowledge..."(24)


Where does The Order get its enlightened understanding? From ancient Greek and Oriental philosophy. And where did the Greeks and Orientals derive their enlightening doctrines?
"The individual who became spiritually or intellectually enlightened in the ancient Babylonian Mysteries was...called an Illuminated."

This Order of the Illuminati, or "The Order" founded by Dr. Adam Weishaupt in Bavaria, aimed at nothing less than "world revolution."(94) France was to be the first example in order to set a precedent for revolutions to go world-wide, thus "revolutions would become easy."(95)

To better further their plans of world domination, the Lodges of Freemasonry were infiltrated by The Order. They took over the leadership positions and pushed forward Illuminati plans--thus a secret society was within another secret society.(96) The famous occultist and magician, Cagliostro, revealed that "By March 1789, the 266 [Masonic] lodges controlled by the Grand Orient were all `Illuminized' without knowing it, for the Freemasons in general, were not told the name of the sect that brought them these mysteries...In the following month the Revolution broke out."(97) And during the Revolution, the number of Masonic lodges rose to 630 in Paris alone!(98)

The Illuminati established the Club Breton in France, which latter became the Jacobin Club which was the center of action for the Illuminati and Freemasonry.(99) During the Revolution, the number of these clubs rose to 2400 nationwide,(100) and they even published their own Jacobin journal.(101)

Professor L.A. Von Hoffman of Vienna wrote in 1795:
"The intelligent saw in the open system of the Jacobins the complete hidden system of the Illuminati. We knew that this system included the whole world in its aims, and France was only the place of its first explosion. The propaganda works in every corner to this hour, and its emissaries run about in all the four quarters of the world, and are to be found in numbers in every city that is a seat of government."

The French people were taught that Christian "religion is a social disease which cannot be too quickly cured."(222) The Government "forbade the practice of any form of Christian...religion under the pain of death."(223)


Once Atheism had done her job in putting down Christianity, then the Jacobin leader--Robespierre--declared that "Atheism is aristocratic [or bad], the people believe in God."(224) It was declared that:
"The People is the Sovereign and the God of the world: France is the center of the People-God; only fools can believe in any other God..."

It was also declared that no other worship would be tolerated except the worship of "Liberty and Holy Equality."(226) Then the "Feast of Reason" took place in which:
"a temple was raised...on the summit of a mountain, from which shone forth the `light of truth,' and...the goddess of Reason, personified by...an opera singer [or actress]...was borne in procession and solemnly enthroned..."

Hence the Statue of Liberty, given to America by France, represents the goddess of Reason being worshipped above God and His law of truth. And the torch, bearing the "Light of Truth," or the "Flame of Reason," represents the teachings and doctrines of the Illuminati--which comes directly from Lucifer. In fact, Lucifer means "Light Bearer," and the official name of the Statue of Liberty is "Liberty Enlightening the World,"(231) which is the design of the Illuminati--world revolution!

Sorry for the delay...

I too have no more time for false religions. The TRUE CREATOR of all things is indeed different than the one portrayed in the old testament..Seek him and you will find him.. I understand this more than you realize. The old testament YHWH is not the true creator..

As far as reputable sources, no one who discredits the bible will be considered reputable by the christian mind..

how ever, sources I will provide when time permits..

This will continue at a later time..

Its late, I'm tired and going home..Peace and love be with you all...


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Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
If your sensibilities are that delicate, then I suggest you never leave home...

Not only were the people and nature worshipped, but the pagan god Bacchus was worshipped in the Nationalized or "Government approved" churches as well.(239) The Cathedral of Notre Dame became the largest "Temple of Reason" in which "Festivals of the Supreme Being," or Lucifer, were held.(240) The Supreme Being was said to be Reason itself, and Robespierre stated that these Festivals "would inaugurate a new stage in the eternal ascent of the Revolution."

So no matter what organization or group the Illuminati chooses to work through, the teachings, plans, and workings of that organization will be the same, even though the name is different.

"In 1829, American Illuminists sponsored a series of lectures in New York by English Illuminist Frances `Fanny' Wright. She advocated the entire Weishauptian program...including Communism made more palatable by the label of `Equal Opportunity and Equal Rights,' Atheism, Emancipation of Women and Free Love. Those present were informed that the Illuminati intended to unite the Nihilist and Atheist groups with all other subversive organizations into an international organization to be known as Communism.

After Adam Weishaupt died, Italian revolutionary--Giuseppi Mazzine was appointed the head of the Illuminati--being the "Sovereign Chief of Political Action."(278) Mazzine appointed Albert Pike to head the Illuminati's operations in America.(279) Now who was Albert Pike? Albert Pike was one of Masonry's most exalted leaders--being the "Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry."(280) And what did he believe and teach to the rest of the "enlightened" membership of Freemasonry?

"Masonry is a search after Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah [Jewish teachings of Witchcraft and Philosophy]. In that ancient and little understood...philosophy, the Initiate will find the source of many doctrines; and may in time come to understand the Hermetic philosophers, the Alchemists...and Emanuel Swedenborg....

"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it: everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the Illuminati; Jacob Bohme, Swedenborg, Saint Martin, and others is borrowed from the Kabalah; all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols."(281)


Thus most of the Occult teachings have been derived from the Kabalah. But from where did the Kabalah originate from? Kabbalist Z'ev ben Shimon Halevi admits:
"Occult Kabbalah has a history which goes back to Babylon."(282)


And Charles Ponce, in his book, Kabbalah: An Introduction and Illumination for the World Today, on page 62 writes that:
"Kabbalism had its origins in Babylonia."


What is the goal of these "most perfect and enlightened of men" of Weishaupt's Illuminati?
"Weishaupt's goal was to hide the sciences of Witchcraft behind philanthropy, destroy Christianity with humanism (atheism), then set up a One World Government."

"The...men of The Order have in mind for us a seventh millennium in which a superior race of god-men will take charge and guide the planet into a Golden Age...Of course...only a few will be fit to thrive and rule during this Golden Age. The vast majority are misfits, ignorant and unworthy of divinity. They will be destroyed or else reduced to serf status."(54)


"The activities of The Order are directed towards changing our society, changing the world, to bring about a New World Order," which will be governed by a world leader.

How would this be accomplished? By producing a "revolution in the mind of man."(56) Or in other words, to gain control of the minds of the people, and re-program them through the doctrines of Lucifer--the Illuminated One. This was to be accomplished by infiltrating and gaining control over everything affecting the public (all societies, organizations, churches, schools, courts, post offices, political parties and governments, etc.), in order to control and manipulate all for the good of The Order.(57)

Immediately after the founding of Weishaupt's Illuminati, he and his followers began putting these plans and teachings into working order; and France was designated as their first experiment.

Thus the same teachings and actions that led to the French Revolution will happen again, not just involving one nation this time, but involving the whole world!

TO BE GOD of ONE WORLD:
The French Revolution Globalized
[link to www.lightministries.com]

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You didn't like my humor, but I did get your attention didn't I?
I love intellectuals.
However, I do not know many who believe that ancient myths are true as told.
So what exactly is a "living god"?
Sorry if I can't get back to you soon, it is late where I live and I have a big day ahead of me.
Good nite.

i shall address this. yes, i blame Him. He needs to get called on the bluff. yes, i blame Him. any retort? furthermore i am marah kalah, and i hold Him accountable, and if someone does now not stand up to Him, we are lost.

Peace and love to you and yours, HT. Get some rest. We can continue when you are rested and at 100% *smile*.

...and so it begins...

ps, no y0u are not sorry at all, you are gloating that you think you have got one up on me, you insensate being. you, little monkey, you think to outwit me? you throw caca at your mirror.

i see monkeys.

I, too, must call it a night. I do hope that we might pick up again when we are both able. I will, with no pretense nor reserve, stand to be scrutinized for my beliefs.

To answer the question as put " what exactly is a living God", I can only answer from my heart. I cannot show you any physical manifestation, nor would it be of any utility to bore you with words from a book that you most likely do not trust.

When I use the term "Living God", I do not use it loosely. I do it with all reverence. I have had God speak directly to me...when I did not expect it nor request it. I shall share an episode with you here.

It must have been about 15 years ago; two friends and I drove to a wildlife management area some 120 miles from home. The area was well off the beaten path (easy to do in the State of Oklahoma). We parked the pickup at a very primitive entrance and proceeded to walk and scout for whitetail deer sign.

As the three of us gradually worked our way away from the entrance we slowly spread out, each looking to secure a spot that wouldn't infinge on the others.

I walked for approximately 1 1/2 hrs. and had reached a point that I estimated to be somewhere near 1 full mile from where we were parked - maybe more.

The last leg of my jaunt, I had decended down a hill but had skirted it due to the fact that the center was jammed up with what we refer to as laydowns - trees that have been felled by one means or another. In this case it appeared that these had been naturally felled by severe winds at some point.

At reaching the bottom of the hill, I circled in towards the center of it and decided that I had no intention of setting up to hunt this far from the vehicle. I then made the decision to head back and take a second look at some places of prospect.

Not wanting to circle again I made the choice to brave the laydowns. They were randomly placed and piled up as if one tree had been the cause of another or others to be downed.

During the journey through the laydowns I came across a very large and widespread heap of trunks and branches. I decided to go through. I should add that the pile was so dense that I could not see through it and had no way to determine what might lie behind it.

Somewhere in the middle of the pile of scrambled brush, just as I raised my foot to place it over a cross section of tree trunks intersecting my path, I heard a voice in my head - as clearly as if someone beside me had just spoken to me - only I doubt that it was audible. The voice stated, and I remember it just as if it were five minutes ago "Do not step on those snakes."

I stopped immediately. I, literally, froze in mid-motion. Slowly, I lowered my leg and moved backwards, easing my way to the side as I went so that I could get around the obstacle that had brought me to this point.

Upon reaching the other side of the mess of wood in question, I worked my inward until I could see what was just under the log and where my step would have landed had I not heard that voice. There, under the lowest log, were two copperhead snakes, consumating the act of copulation, connected cloaka to cloaka.

There may be scoffers and mockers. There are those that choose to disbelieve. I choose to believe because I have experienced God - that still small voice inside that is unmistakeably the direction of He that created the ends of the universe. He is not loud nor is He pushy, but when He speaks....and I mean really speaks to a person, they are forever changed.

That is just one illustration of what a Living God is and has done for me.

I'd like to see if the genome project comes up with any connections between mens ribs and the making of a female embryo.

I often think that the ark was actually a gene pool that was saved from the flood and all this begatting in the bible really had to do with genetic manipulation of creator.--whoever she was.

whoever she is. the pussies are very afraid, i ask again, any theories why they are afraid of her? cause she only has quarter for the truth? cause you devils know she dont f**k around? cause she will have no games?..you illicitness, ha.

Liar.

whatever

i know firsthand "whatever" is the refuge of the hopeless. i don't like to see anybody there, at least you have the dignity to not scoop your own poopoo, therefore you may transcend what the evil ones planned for you. i wish you a good outcome.