10% of americans starved to death in the first great depression

i've been studying the 1929 depression tonight,it really has me freaked out, its way worse than i orginally thought, they say there was so many suicides nobody even kept track, even read some ate their own apendages to stay alive,but the scariest thing is the collapse of today is identical,even the govt actions are the same, its like history repeating except this time it will be 10 times worse and no way out. It's identical to today's situation down to the detail!!!!!!wtf?

Why didn't they get ransacked in those days?


You better understand what is taking place or you'll be in for a shock!


Why did so many starve then and not rob the farmer at night?

Times were more rural then and so were the people, "didn't they think like many here on GLP to plant a garden?


You better all wake-up!!!!!

hope u can get those deer and preserve them before shtf .old timers had ways to preserve food by using a smoke huse method.do anyone know of those old ways to cure meats for later use.?

Like I was telling the poster above we all better understand what is taking place in the World, and the Power that has every mind wrapped like a pretzel or we will all be in for a shock!


You're awake dude, I can tell. I noticed the same thing.


2009

Stock Market will crash in 2009 and N.Y.S.E will go into bankruptcy protection. The year 2009 is representative for the crash of 29 and it isn’t coincidence either, there is a saying that if we don’t learn from history we risk repeating it. For those who have eyes & ears we’re repeating it. During this time the Fed’s will not add anymore money to the shrinking economy in order to control inflation.



2010

Inflation takes off because of the on going oil currency war between the Europeans and the Americans, many countries will continue to dump their US dollars for euros and buy their oil at cheaper euro denominated wells. The US dollar resumes its downward spiral and at this junction the common person will try to convert their dollars to other denominations for hedging loses. Bank runs will be common which will lead to Bank failures. The US government will allow all of this with no Fed capital injection so the contraction of the money supply continues strengthening the Dollar from sinking too low in order to protect the 1% Rich.



2011

GNP will continue to fall (inflation/dollar ratio GNP) this means that goods and services did not increase the GNP dually on demands (population increase) but mostly because items costing $1 during the Clinton years (1993) cost $1.51 today with Bush (2008) because of this inflation it costed more to buy the same goods and services increasing the GNP and all this inflation was created by printing excess money [National Debt].



2012

The Great Depression is in full swing, GNP down, stocks have lost 70-90% value and thousands of Banks failed contracting “Joe Public” money supply. Talks of redistribution of wealth from rich to poor begins. At this point the Fed’s will make a big money expansion for the poor hoping to calm the riots and chaos country-wide this will lift the veil of deceit as the poor begin to sense that they were deceptively taken advantage, black man and white man will turn their anger towards the establishment and over turn the system, the New World Order has begun.

"foraging for food" would quickly become problematic today. 300,000,000 people all foraging for food would quickly strip the land bare, most likely withing the first few months of the crash. Growing your own food would also become problematic as bands of starving people would not hesitate to forage what others have grown. Also, there's the climate to consider. During the Depression, the main reason so many died of starvation, malnutrition, and exposure was due to the "Great Dust Bowl", which at the time destroyed some 45% of our nations crops that year. These two unfortunate events killed a lot of people.

Many did get ransacked. My grandfather shot two people trying to steal food from his farm, but not before their friends got away with a considerable amount.

People won't starve this time. Oprah will give people KFC coupons for a month of free chicken. Not even a month, maybe two weeks.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Lemme tell you sumpin. I'm on a diet. But I'm getting me some food free? Sheeeeiiiit. Ima take it! It's grill chicken anyways! Ima get me some coleslaw, some mash potato, some biscuits! Thank you Oprah! I love that! And I know the country appreciate that! And I just want to say thanks on behalf of this world, the whole US of A. You know what I mean? It's Chester!

This depression will be far worse than the last one.

Lack of food/resources will force populations into a civil war scenario as they fight among themselves for the meager available local resources.

The best plan is therefor to plan to lay low for six months or so until this phase ends. It will be bloody, and much of both the local population and the local resources will be destroyed during this phase.

Agreed. Hopefully, six months will be enough. I see deaths into the 10's of millions, if not over 100 million. The veil of civilization would be quickly stripped away then people are faced with starvation.

Agreed. Most men today would kill their neighbors to feed their children.

It was pretty interesting hearing my grandparents talk about the great depression.
They said the only reason that even knew something called a "great depression" was going on was because they saw it on the cover of a newspaper.
Their life was basically the same down here in rural Mississippi. I dont know if that should give me a tiny bit of hope since there's a good many people around who garden and we live on 100 acres adjacent to a national forest where game should be or if that tells me just how hard life was back then.

The author of the botany article mentions winter plants, and if you live in a warm climate, it might be possible. Good luck in the northern states for locating an onion. The leaves of plants will freeze, dry, and blow away. Very little in the north to gather in winter, and the energy expended in gathering it, wouldn't be made up by what you'd find. The best you could hope for would be some frozen cattail roots, long past their prime. After you dug them from a frozen bank, and suffered hypothermia and frostbite.

DON'T WORRY GUYS THIS TIME IS GOING TO BE ONLY LIBERAL CALIS !!

My Grandma Lawson (nee. O'Quinn) who lived in Rural W. Virginia and Kentucky during the Depression often told us that when the Depression hit, they didn't notice the difference. My Grandparent's life was already extremely hard though. Grandpa Lawson had been a coal miner, but his back had been broken in a mining accident and it took months for him to recover.

My Grandparents on my father's side live in Detroit. Great Grandpa died in 1928 from Pneumonia, when my Grandfather was 17 years old. The depression hit that following year, and things got extremely difficult for the family.

There are so many more people today (about 100 million in 1928 and over 300 million today) that keeping a garden or a farm would be extremely difficult. People would pour out of the cities the second the resources dried up, which wouldn't be long, and a starving person is not going to be concerned with property rights.



Last Edited by Scruffy MacScruffovich on 07/07/2009 11:17 AM

10% of americans starved to death in the first great depression
HA - and THEN we actually had Farms and industry and ...

oh well

We would also have our Southern neighbors to contend with. In a country with a significant portion of its population on the verge of starvation even during relative good economic times, if the US Economy Collapses, those people are coming north, en masse, looking for food.

There ya go. Great solution, but unfortunately goes against the way most people behave. Many don't think ahead.

It's very easy to smoke, can, dehydrate, and preserve food. Many things could be done now to secure families, but the dead of winter with a blizzard raging, isn't the time to start thinking about it.

One of the resources that would dry up would be available gasoline. Most people wouldn't even have the option of trying to make it out of the cities. Most would be trapped there.

The most vivid memory I have of food is that there was never enough.

In actual fact I have some rather horrible memories about food, at least in the Rinfret family.

I remember one dinner where my mother, myself and my brothers and sister sat down to a meal. The meal consisted of 3 boiled potatoes and one slice of white bread which we divided up amongst us. I noticed my mother was not eating and I asked her why she was not eating.

She answered that she was on a diet.

When I was about 50 years of age it hit me that she had not been on a diet but was giving up what there was to us!

Our meals seldom contained any form of meat and when it did it was either hamburger or flank steak, neither which I can eat to this day.

If it was hamburger you got a patty about the size of a 50 cent piece. If you got flank steak it was sliced paper thin so that you could see light through it. At most it might be about 4 inches long, an inch wide and paper thin . Each persons portion was two slices and a one pound flank steak fed 6 people!

We ate tons of "nutritious" food all of which was bulk and starches! We had pasta at least twice a week but never with meatballs. We ate chicken on occasion but not often. Potatoes were a staple in our diet as were various cabbages and carrots (in those days they were cheap).

Bread was day old bread which could be bought at the bakery for half price. Cookies were 25 cents a pound but they were broken and a day old.

And in those days a day old meant stale!

We never but never got dessert except rice pudding and all the other goodies such as candy and ice cream were unheard of by us.

After 1937 when things started to improve a bit my mother did bake a pie (apple was her specialty) and an occasional chocolate cake.

My mother lived until 1976 but she remained as frugal with food as she had been in the depression. It was a sin to waste a shred of food and you were forced to consume everything but everything on your plate. We ate for the starving children in China! We cleaned our plates at every meal and that was almost obligatory.

All my bad food habits of today emanate from the depression and from my formative years. I eat too much candy and far too much ice cream. But since no one in the family could afford any liquor I don't drink to this day, except for wine which I learned in France while on my Fulbright fellowship.

On the holidays we never but never had a turkey nor did we ever have anything different and festive. That did change when my father found full time work in 1937 (he had been unemployed for 8 years then) but to this day I cannot stand either Christmas nor Thanksgiving which to me was always an oxymoron!

I am finally over my dislike for those holidays but it took some 50 years!

What then did we eat?

Whatever the cheapest things my poor mother could afford or find!
[link to www.rinfret.com]

BULL SHIT

10% DID NOT STARVE TO DEATH YOU IDIOT

Go watch Grapes of Wrath again.

A few people starved in the US but enough to even be counted as a percentage.

In the great Irish potato famine of 1845, only about a million died and most of them from disease, not lack of food.

Go watch cartoons, they are more informative.

do you know enough on the subject to know for sure or are you just saying that because it seems so unbelievable?

just doing a quick search this is the 1st article that came up but i have indeed heard it and seen it from more reliable sources that million and millions of people who were counted in the census around 1930 could not be accounted for during the 1940 census.
did they die of starvation? possibly

[link to www.cherada.com]

i'd heard something similar, based on census data carried out in 1925 and 1935, i think. but actually look here:

[link to www.census.gov]

early 1900s, population was increasing at around 2% annually. during the 1930s, it was under 1%.

Starvation and malnutrition opens up the human body to any number of oportunistic diseases. Is there any difference between starving to death, and dying of a disease that your body would have ordinarilly been able to fight off had you been eating properly?



Last Edited by Scruffy MacScruffovich on 07/07/2009 03:32 PM

Did someone cut off their feet? Steal their bicycles? Believe me, when the food dried up, they would find a way out.

the natural percentage population increase between 1930 and 1940 was the lowest on record. Something was going on. People were having less babies, less immigration and more people were dying.

The US Government will be saying " join our armed forces , accept this chip/implant and we will feed you and your family".