Debunking the Urantia book, Christians join me

Hi Yah!

Another question for you.

What if the coming “fallen-angel-demon-elohim” DID IN FACT create MAN?

WOAH. Now you KNOW I’ve lost my mind, right? Uhmmm.

(Hurry click away now before you learn something)

And praise Jesus for those who didn’t “click away”. At least some of us will have a clue of how to explain to people that “THEY” ARE NOT our CREATORS.

The problem here is “terms and definitions” and our inability to see the “big picture”. Let’s face it. We were robbed. We would have had a much better shot at understanding these things if the Nicean Council of 325 A.D. wouldn’t have had gnostic Dionysus worshiping pagans tearing out legitimate pseudoepigrapha from the canon. (sly devils, no pun intented).

It’s “almost” like they had an “agenda” way back then and knew JUST what texts to remove. Never mind that the term “pseudoepigrapha” actually means “works with a false title”. What? Yep. Evidently if the pagans could argue that the claimed writer was not really the one who wrote it using whatever means necessary, then it got classified as such.

And don’t EVEN get me going about The Book of Enoch. (sigh)

Small Adjustments to our Frame of Reference

We may need to change our frame of reference a little. But once you “get your arms around it”, it is the single most exciting thing you will discover. These “epiphanies” are in the 66 book canon, but you have to know what you are looking for in advance.

Also, for what it’s worth, (and I know you didn’t experience it yourself so you’ll just have to believe or discard), there have been SO many supernatural confirmations that I can no longer turn my back on the subject. I have been on hours of conference calls with the smartest guys in the world (I think) on this subject, and these amazing people have a hard time giving you a half dozen scriptures to back the facts. Have you ever met people like that? They are SO DARN SMART that they can’t stop sharing with you their amazing journey long enough to focus on ONE big question.

Surely many of you know by now that I’ve been harping on this problem with understanding Genesis One “man and woman” vs. Genesis 2:7 where the “Lord God” (YHWH Elohim) specifically creates man and blew into his nostrils the “breath of life” and the man became a “living soul”. I have heard the same old diatribe about Gen 1 being a type of repetition of Gen 2 but this flies in the face of common sense. I am so TIRED of being misled by so-called “Th.Ds” (theologians), that have been educated through the “common frame of reference” from our pagan forefathers that cannibalized our scripture, I could just … well … “pop a fuse”.

Think about this. When you study something like the Bible, if your basics are “out of whack”, how can you expect to understand the rest? Well you can’t. And what books are hidden in the basement of the Vatican? I don’t know. What books or scriptures have we not even discovered yet? Beats me. So how in the WORLD do you stitch this all together?

Never mind all the translation issues. I do not care what version you have, there is stuff missing and stuff that is mistranslated. And yes I have heard the story that “at least” in the KVJ we know where the mistakes are … NO WE DON’T! But it is one of my favorites as long as a I have an Amplified Bible or a Kenneth Wuest Expanded near by to keep my brain from bleeding with metaphorical frustration.

And THEN you have the problem with the fact that Hebrew only has 800 words and each letter has a different meaning depending on how it is combined with the other letters. English has more than 500,000 words. And Greek! Forget about it. Between Greek and Hebrew, we are arguably talking about the single two most difficult languages to translate to English EVER.

Sorry, is that enough or might I add the problem with metaphors, symbolism and out-right “generalities”. Did that lady ask for a Kleenex or a tissue? Does it matter? Well maybe. Maybe not. Was that BEAST a nasty evil animal, or was it a “Government”? Wow. That’s a huge difference. At least for the most part, when the Bible uses some metaphors, it is relatively consistent.

But you still have to be careful because it’s tricky AND you have duplicitous meanings. YES. There are times when Jesus appears to be talking to people (the general populous) but he is simultaneously talking to Satan and his army of “fallen ones” to make a point. You also have this problem with soul and spiritual realities juxtaposed against physical realities. Sure you do.

The Duplicitous Meaning Paradigm

For example, since we know that the “fallen-alien-demon-angels” (“angels”… make a note here), have been trying to destroy “man’s DNA” and corrupt the bloodline of man”kind” since Adam was created, (the serpent in the Garden, the indiscretion of Eve, Who is the Father of Cain, God having to place ”enmity ” between the “seed of Satan” and the “seed of the woman”, and on and on and on), AND we know that the “Body is the Temple” of the Holy Spirit (see “The Bible”), then is it not likely “the abomination that creates desolation” is ALSO the DNA bloodline corruption of the Temple?

If the DEMON SEED has successfully “infested” virtually all of mankind’s bloodlines over the years, (as any reasonable person would acknowledge MUST be the case), then might there be TWO DIFFERENT meanings to the “abomination” that causes destruction. Is it even REMOTELY possible that that same abomination, that “stands in the Temple” is actually standing inside of a “human Temple”? What if the physical Temple is not really a true prophetic term and ultimately is used as a deception to “throw us off our game”? We know the demons are using the Bible as a play book, right? Surely you do.

If you find yourself scratching your head, you may be new to this information and need a little history or refresher course in the order the Lord led me to these things. I took the time to put the articles in order from the point I began to struggle with the Genesis One vs. Genesis Two “elohim” problem. If you take the time to read through these (in this order) you will see how I have struggled with the concepts but simultaneously KNEW something WAS UP!

Demon Seed Day One
[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

Intercepting the Elohim

[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

Interim Epiphanies

[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

Cosmic Threat Analysis

[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

How Deep is the Infection?
[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

The Esoteric X-Files Problem
[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

And if you REALLY want the whole skinny on the Alien Demon epiphanies of mine (Praise Jesus), go back through the article history even further and find, the “Aliens, Demons, Nephilim, Time Travel and God” series (Parts one through four I believe). Also look up UFO Wars: They’re coming to Save Us, It’s a setup, A Greater Delusion than We Think, and You Can’t Handle the Truth. Whoops I almost forgot; and then you should also see “The Alien Demon Agenda” articles, Part 1, part 1-2 “Interim Thoughts, Part 2 and Part 3 “Apotheosis”.

If those articles I just linked you to above, don’t get you “going” than nothing will. And the stuff I am learning NOW is really SUPER COOL!!
PRAISE THE ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD
AND
HIS AWESOME SON JESUS CHRIST

Seek and Ye Shall Find

If you begin researching a particular subject Biblically, with a pre-disposition to a particular conclusion, you can easily spend your entire life proving what you already believed was the case. And sure enough, with the help of the “church” forefathers and all of their “agendas” you will have some sort of “pre-disposition” in most studies. Dare I say all studies for the most part.

In the book entitled “Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church” by Marvin Rosenthal, you hear an alarming story of how the HEAD GUY at one of the largest pre-trib operations in the world, CHANGED HIS MIND, and had the entire board freaking out on him because it would EMBARRASS their father, and their fathers’ father, and their fathers grandfather. NO! Don’t change your mind Mr. Rosenthal. No matter how important it is to the SOULS OF MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS, after all it might embarrass us. That is PRECISELY what happened.

So if you don’t open your mind and start your research with a HUMBLE MIND and an open mind, you will automatically fail. You have to start your research with a “hypothesis” or a “what if” scenario, and then BUCK UP and be a good BOREAN and do your darn homework.

Otherwise people are going to “burn in Hell” because you stood their with your mouth open and had no explanation to give when they say … ” I can believe in those UFOs better than I can believe in your Jesus” (which actually happened to me one day at a local bistro).

Was God warning me of what’s coming?

The “Sons of God” are WHAT?

Considering every “jot and tittle” is meaningful in the Bible (including punctuation), why do you suppose God would waste an entire chapter on creation and then repeat the concept of “man’s creation” in the second chapter? Hmmm.

Why in John 10:34 does Jesus ask “Have I not said YE are gods”? Whoops. I goofed up again. Actually Jesus didn’t say that at all. HE SAID!! “Have I not said ye are ELOHIM”. Wow.

Why is it that the exact same word used to describe the “Sons of God” in Genesis 6:4 is used in the New Testament to describe the “Sons of God” when talking about ”us” in Matthew 5:9, Luke 20:36, Romans 8:14, Romans 8:19, and Galatians 3:26? In fact, listen closely here folks. The KJV likes to use the word “children” instead of SON. Now please you need to wake up here. If you can defend the notion that “children of God” is somehow different than “Sons of God” then you are in COMPLETE DENIAL.

Never mind this fact.

If you really DIG and you look up the HEBREW WORDS to describe the “Sons of God” in Genesis 6:4 (also known as the “Watchers” in The Book of Enoch”), you find the words “B’neey haa – ‘Elohiym”. Okay that’s fine. But darn it. When you go to the above mentioned New Testament scriptures you find instead the Greek words (for Sons of God) as “vloi tov Oeov”. Well that’s cool but not so helpful really. Oh gosh, what to do. How in the world do we “correlate” the term “Sons of God” from the New Testament back to the Old Testament, PARTICULARLY to the Genesis 6 problem cause that makes this REALLY INTERESTING.

Aha. The SEPTUAGINT. The “Apostolic Bible”. The translation that the apostles arguably carried with them of the Old Testament Hebrew since (as far as I know) none of them but Paul, knew Hebrew well anyway.

So let’s see what “B’neey haa- ‘Elohiym” is in GREEK, shall we?

“B’neey haa- ‘Elohiym” (Hebrew – Genesis 6:4) IS ALSO “Vloi Tov Oeov” in Greek. You see, the EXACT SAME WORDS were used to describe the “fallen angel watchers” of Genesis 6 as were used to describe the “Sons of God” (that’s us) in the New Testament.

Now isn’t that fascinating? You bet it is.

But HOW CAN THAT BE?? Am I implying that perhaps, just maybe, the term angel in the Bible is used very loosely? Is it even remotely possible that the “Sons of God” are also TISSUES, whoops there I go again, I meant “Kleenexes” … DANG IT… I mean … Angels? Is it even remotely possible, that JUST MAYBE the term “Angel” is a term used to generically represent the divine hierarchy of “beings” that “LORD GOD” (YHWY Elohim) created as the “supporting front office” of the Heavenly management system? Could YHWH Elohim’s Universe be a supernatural electro-magnetic “messaging system” (hence the term “messengers”)?

Who are the Seraphim? Who are the Cherubim? What are their jobs in the Heavenly Office? And have you ever heard of Ophannim? WHAT? Well if you read the Bible you sure have indeed heard of Ophannim. They are the mis-interpreted terms referred to in Ezekiel chapter one, as WHEELS. That’s a fact. The Hebrew word for “wheels” is actually the term for the Angel classification called “Ophannim”.

FYI, Candace recently admitted that she lives in a trailer house located in a trailer park in a ghetto Denver neighborhood and survives off of a disability check and social security. Yes, before you ask, it's a mental disability. No, I know, no one is surprised.

WOW AC!

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Hey Crazy lady dont go to far or....

i will destroy your belief system and expose you for the agent you are

i have been waiting for the perfect time to expose you with your server list that is connected to the gov

i understand these things, and i can imagine you hate me always calling you out but it must be done!!

you are a liar and an alien lover

Hello Brother

Sleeping prophet?

Candace you are truly crazy

Just ask your boy jj hurtak he also received a book called the keys to enoch

and he talked with the demons you know, they teach the same b.s. that you push with the PJ and urantia

the real followers of the Most High God have figured you out and we shall expose you for the beast you are

Thus says the Lord: Why do you steal from your God? How is it I have called to you, even giving you commands, and you stay silent?

You believe and know of My love, which surpasses understanding...

Proclaim it!

Beloved, the time is here and has already come.
I have asked of you all, saying, "Serve Me"...
Yet you hesitate and rob God.

I have even asked of you all, on many occasions,
even placing it on your hearts....
Yet you hesitate, you procrastinate,
sitting there upon your hands, saying,
"Tomorrow I shall serve God,
and later I shall pick up the Trumpet"...

You are no watchmen.


Though, for this reason, I, even I, have called you out. For one in league with My watchman has, by association, become the same.
Therefore, thus says the Lord: Beloved, walk with Me, even this far... Yet you say, "How far?". I have said, "Do this"... Yet what have you done? How is it you stand up, but begrudgingly? Where is the joy in service, even of My name put forth in power? Call on My name, and it shall be given you. Give to the poor and help the afflicted, and give them double...even in My name, the name I gave My Son, the Holy One. For even as you have done to the least of these, assuredly, I say to you, you have done it to Me... even to the entertaining of angels unawares.
Therefore, I ask you, how much more shall you give to your Father in Heaven, even of Him I sent... dying, His life poured out, so you may have life everlasting?... Do, or do not... For Love has saved you. Speak aloud, saying, "Yes"... or "No". Serve Me, as I have called you, and do so rejoicing as you go. I am with you and will provide all you need, even I have done so already.
Thus says the Lord: Who will go for Me?!... No more time to tarry. The day is done and the sun is setting upon this age of men.

I did not recently admit the mobile home, I have always made that statement, and that I am on SS disability. So what? It was for multiiple sclerosis and arthritis dude. Are you related to MIchael at all? This shit is getting suspicious. I have severe spinal deterioration and cervical stenosis from the arthritis. I have been teaching people for YEARS now about the danger of using excess dairy and phosphate containing foods, which is behind a lot of osteoarthritis in this country. Go be a jerk someplace else.

one word

TROLL

My sons, pick up the trumpet, and turn toward the churches of men also... And trumpet! Trumpet loudly before their faces!... GO! Hesitate not. Trumpet in all manner of speaking and devices, in their lots and in their faces!... Go! Go and so do, according to how I, Myself, lead you. Go in person and by computer. Go wheresoever you are welcome, and go also where you are hated... GO! Go and make enemies, of all peoples and nations and among every church... GO!... And become to them a loathsome sore, a great offense. Go and make of yourselves a spectacle, for My name’s sake. Serve to them The Truth absolute, as I have revealed it in all these Letters... Serve to them every word of My hot displeasure. Relent not, but continue on... Cease not, until a great outcry comes forth against you... Go! And when I call you to depart, depart... Blessing those who have given heed, blessing all those who have shed tears, upon hearing the Word of My mouth... Yet turning from all who hate you, turning to them the back, pausing quickly to wipe the dirt from the underside of your shoes, as a testament against them.
Behold, I have spoken it!... My will is made clear. Fear not, nor be dismayed by their looks, nor give heed to any of their words, nor hide from any stone cast in your direction. For I am with you, and I will be your strength and your shield... A strong tower, which can in no wise be broken down... I am The Lord!... Strong is He who is going with you! Steadfast is He who comes quickly to live in you, who also goes before you and remains always, your rear guard.


Behold!...

I

AM

COMING

DOWN!

Peoples of the earth, I am coming down to you!...

With My left arm outstretched to judge and to punish,
And with My right arm bent to save and deliver...


IT IS TIME!




The day is done... The hour comes to a close...

Behold, the fury of The Lord comes!



The judgments of The Most High shall reign down on men...

And the whole earth shall be shaken,
With every man trembling for fear, with every countenance falling...

Yea, your hearts shall thunder in your chests, because of the terror of The Lord!



Look now and see!...

It will not tarry, it is coming quickly...

Behold the Day!... The Day of The Lord is here!




Call on His name!... Peoples of the earth, cry out!...

And call on the only name under Heaven, by which you must be saved!...

Call out His name, if you know it.



Call on the name of pure righteousness...

Call on the name of majesty and power... And saving grace...

Yes, cry out to Him, saying, “Grace, Grace!”...



Speak His name aloud, in repentance...

Offer up your tears and sin, in His name, before the door is shut.

Thus says The Lord, The Holy One, The God of Israel... The I AM: Woe to those, who remain still at My rebuke and ignore My correction...

The day is far spent, no more time to tarry. Arise, therefore, and do the will of The One, by whose name you are called... For your purpose is to do the will of The Father, even as I also did the will of The Father, for He sent Me... And I am that example, of which you should follow. Again I say, arise, O children of Zion! Watchmen, sound the trumpet and the alarm of war!... For the Day comes quickly upon you, when all that is written shall be fulfilled.



Awake from your slumber!...

Doubt no more!... For the time is here!


Be quickened by My Spirit, be broken atop this Stone...

The Rock... Of which I AM.


Behold, the harvest is nearly ripe and ready for reaping,
Yet the laborers are few...

And that remaining must be separated.



And what of you, My children? What of you, My beloved, who dwell amongst the churches of men?... You were to be set apart for The Master’s use, yet you remain still and quiet, ensnared by this world, listening to the vain babblings of mere men... All these pastors and teachers, men in authority, leaders of all these churches who know not My voice, neither do they have ears to hear, nor can they see for the veil of pride and vanities is ever before their faces, walking always in the doctrines and traditions of men... My lost children, how long will you continue to stifle My Spirit? How long will you refuse to give heed to My call? How long will you remain unwilling to forsake everything and come to Me?... To walk in My very footsteps?



For all those who choose another, and not Me, who listen not to My voice,
Choosing instead these men in authority, who presume to stand in MY place,
Shall by no means escape, when The Day of The Lord comes.



Hear and understand...

Those, who love anyone more than Me, are not worthy of Me.
And any, who love the ways of the world, have made themselves enemies of God.



Therefore take heed, beloved, and pray always that you are found worthy to escape all these things, which are coming upon the earth and against its inhabitants... For judgment, as a recompense and a punishment for all their forsaking of Me, says The Lord.



Repent, therefore! Turn from your ways!... And pray!...

Pray that you are indeed found worthy,
To stand before The Son of Man in that Day...

For the time is at hand.



Will you heed My call? Will you give heed to My voice?...

Or will you continue to forbear?




I am The Lord...

I am The Lord Your Righteousness...

And by Me, alone, shall you stand...

In Me, only, shall you abide...

And by Me, alone, shall you escape, being lifted up to Heaven...
Even all those, who I see of Myself in them.

OP - obsess much? You are an idiot. There is more truth in the UB than you can even comprehend.

Pulpit bullshiters who follow organized religion - back to the salt mine for you. Candace has more strength than you - you have to follow her around because deep in your soul you can't stand the fact that the truth will bite you. Ha!

Yah contacted me by PM quite soon after she/he joined here and immediately began working thru threads I was posting in against my work. that is called Trolling. She/He appeared around the same as many others who came here to attack fleet work by myself and others. She/He will soon went after the urantia material and other work. the Orion Wars, yes some of you are thugs from that one, doing you penance here. Others are of the fallen angel crowd, there are 10 billion of you ones working it out. I wish you continued success.

However, you are rejecting the same Christ Michael and team who sent you here, still, in many cases. You figure it out. Post all you want "tonight " you can prove NOTHING against this work. That site is a terrible mix of some truth and a lot of falsehood. It doesn't impress me. I have visited before. This is whom I work with and I know it. :better Esu image:

Satan is no longer on this planet, he was arrested long ago, and at his trial chose to repent and change his ways and engage in a project of rehabilitation. Lucifer was removed 2000 years ago, had his trial over with about 30 years ago now, and did not repent and chose his uncreation.

The reptilians are gone as well as the negative little greys, fleet owns the underground of this planet now. This is truth.

You are such a fucking attention whore.

There's debate over whether AssBurgers even exists or not. Almost every diagnosis is self-made by people who heard about it on the Internet.

You're not special, you're not a genius and the reason you can't get along with people is because you're an asshole, not because you're gifted.

Freaking weirdos.

AC7708, carefully go back and read your own posts. I think you are calling the wrong folks attention whores, it would seem YOU are engaging in that activity. By YOUR Fruits.

Candace; if you were born on this Earth, you found yourself on the wrong side of the Orion Wars yourself dear. No other way to get here unless you happen to be a Neanderthal, which I do not think you are, yes, that is a compliment.

I'll give you credit though. You know a lot of the truth; there is a lot of truth in new age stuff. It just happens to be 999.999 % truth, mixed with .001 % lie. The lies of course include christ michael, galactic federation of light, and the pleadians.

If there wasn't so much truth in what you guys are packaging; it wouldn't ring true to all the souls out there buying into this.

Greetings fellow Thug, to use your own terminology.

Folks,

If you want to see how the enemy is defeating us check out the Jonathan Kleck videos called destruction of the temple. It doesn't have anything to do with any new Temple being built by anyone, anywhere. Jesus tells us that we are the Temple, and here is what He warned us about. Try the first one; scrape your jaw off of the ground, and then take a look at the others if you are interested.

Nope, I happen to have great detail on where I am from. I was never in the Orion Wars, I am NOT of that area of Nebadon in the first place. I am a volunteer to this planet. I am from Paradise, not the orion wars.

Candace you are from your father the dragon!!

I can see right through you and i have even blocked your contacts with your demons

I understand what you are doing here and who you work for

You fear the power of The Most High God!

when you contact your demons tonight send this message for me

"Even though you are All sons of Elyon, you will All die like men!, you know this age is almost over, Jacobs troubles begins and you have underestimated My Watchmen"

You will be silenced very soon....

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They send volunteers to this planet to live off the government in trailers?

Thus says The Lord your God, the God of Israel, the God of creation: Run to the Light, embrace the Shepherd, for He does call His sheep, and goes about the earth to gather them. One Shepherd... One Lord... One flock gathered and prepared for their journey, their short journey to the bosom of The Father, for I, even I, am their Father. And He, who calls to them, He is also their Father, having given them life.

Thus says The Lord, who is full of mercy: The time has come, the time of redemption is here... I must gather My flock. They must become one fold, and be hidden in the shadow of The Lord, where there is no shadow... Only salvation and the light of understanding, which comes from His Grace, who died to save them, and comes to foster them under His wings, high and lifted up to the house of The Lord where The Father dwells... So they might become the Bride of the Bridegroom, together in the house of their Father and their God, for one week.

Thus says The Lord, the Redeemer: I know you... I see deep into the hearts of men. I see among you a wild flock and a new flock, a lost flock, who, by great travail, shall escape the storm, though they be in the midst of it.

So listen and hear, and take heed... I have chosen. I have prepared My army, the watchmen. These shall be left behind, and to them shall the lost harken. They shall guide you to the Kingdom. All cities shall fall, a great evil shall consume the land, but these I have left shall not fail. Though many fall and die on every side, these shall not fail. They shall march, they shall not stumble, for I uphold them. And by the power of My arm shall they carry you, even through the eye of the storm shall they go... Behold My witnesses, 144,000, who shout My name and trumpet salvation in the face of adversity. The winds shall blow, the earth shall quake, the cities shall burn, the towers shall fall. Lo, through the smoke of wickedness and the breath of the beast, they shall march free, undaunted, across the whole breath of the whole earth, to the place I will show them... Yea! They shall mount up on the wings of eagles, with the power of God before them, and they shall hide the child who had no name, whose name shall be given, the remnant. Even for a time, times and the dividing of time, they shall abide in the wilderness; and The Lord, Himself, shall take them through the fire. They shall be refined and tried unto a pure white gemstone. And The Lord, Himself, shall feed them and give them drink in the sanctuary of His mercy, until the end. Then shall they run. They shall run swiftly in the presence of The Holy One, the Prince. They shall not tire; neither shall their shoes, nor any of their apparel, wear out.

Woe, woe, woe to those, who will not turn, says The Lord of Hosts. They shall stumble, they shall fall, and they shall not be found. Neither shall any of the works of men be found... Neither shall anything, before, be ever again.







The Lord has come... He is calling.

The Lord shall return... He shall gather.

The Lord shall destroy... He shall shine from the east unto the west...

All darkness and wickedness into the fire.



His Kingdom shall be established on the flames of judgment, on the shoulders of retribution,

And stand forever by the strength of His hand and the righteousness of His vesture.

It shall endure forever because of His mercies...



Because of His love for His children,

Who have become His bride in the family of God, forever and ever.





Amen.

You're batshit insane and the real reason you're on disability is because of that, not any diseases you're lying about having.

This is just like that bullshit you made up about telescopes being unable to see the real Jupiter and Venus because star fleet is projecting a hologram. You make crap up, based on TV shows and fiction you've read, then you fool yourself into believing that it's being channeled to you through KRIST MIKEY THE ALIEN!!!!ELEVENTY!!!!

Seriously, I hope you never reproduced.

Christ Michael and Thoth came down in the ship not too long ago to have a few beers with Candy and do a light show for the trailer park. I think Mikey ended up getting drunk and throwing up all over the transporter room.

HEEL, bitch.