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I feel like I just have to, I have seen videos of what I might do so it must be ok.
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You should contact the airline for do's and don'ts..
They can get pissy.
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I have contacted them and it lead to just doing it to see because they don't say.

Anyway I had a boring childhood and am still prone to making my own fun.
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Each day is an adventure in living.
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Fukushima Thyroid Examination Part 3
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Elementary school student in Tokyo area, “We should think all the food is contaminated. We are just left to die.”
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FLEX, the nuclear plant 'Rescue Wagon' for natural and unnatural disasters

FLEX, the nuclear disaster “rescue wagon,” is the utility industry's latest method for meeting the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s (NRC) new rules, which force 65 US plants to store extra emergency equipment onsite to handle big disasters. This nuclear industry plan emerged in response to the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan that destroyed the Fukishima Dai-ichi nuclear plant.
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Nuclear industry develops new emergency plan

ATLANTA — If disaster strikes a nuclear power plant in the U.S., the utility industry wants the ability to fly in heavy-duty equipment that could avert a meltdown.

That capability is part of a larger industry plan being developed to meet new rules that emerged since a 2011 tsunami struck the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant in Japan, flooding its emergency equipment and causing nuclear meltdowns that sent radiation leaking into the environment. The tsunami exceeded the worst-case scenario the plant was designed to withstand.

The effort, called FLEX, is the nuclear industry’s method for meeting new U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission rules that will force 65 plants in the U.S. to get extra emergency equipment on site and store it protectively. As a backup, the industry is developing regional hubs in Memphis, Tenn., and Phoenix that could truck or even fly in more equipment to stricken reactors. Industry leaders say the effort will add another layer of defense in case a Fukushima-style disaster destroys a nuclear plant’s multiple backup systems.
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Citizenperth

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thanks for that windy.... interesting way to check out the situation too....

< a synopsis of hinted changes via the japanese constitution...


[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au]
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Citizenperth

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thanks for that windy.... interesting way to check out the situation too....

< a synopsis of hinted changes via the japanese constitution...


[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au]

sry... repost......

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Citizenperth

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comparision-of-chernobyl-to-fukushima just of FB... nice pictographs/ maps.....

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@ Sweden, Heyda,

Today's Water-Level according to Tepco:
- From 11:14 AM to 2:05 PM on December 10, Units 1-3 reactor water injection pump was switched from the regular reactor water injection pump on the hill to the reactor injection pump in the Turbine Building in order to prepare for newly building a shed for the regular reactor water injection pump on the hill which is scheduled from December 10 to 17. Since the target injection water amount at Unit 1 (total flow rate: 4.5m3/h) is the same as the lower limit flow rate of the reactor water injection pump in the Turbine Building (4.5m3/h) and the flow rate is difficult to adjust, Unit 1 reactor injection water amount was adjusted as follows to achieve the total reactor injection water amount of 5.0m3/h at 2:05 PM on the same day.


Feed water system: Increased from approx. 2.4m3/h to approx. 2.5m3/h, Reactor core spray system: Increased from approx. 1.9m3/h to approx. 2.5m3/h. Unit 2-3 reactor injection water amounts were adjusted as follows.

[Unit 2] Feed water system: Increased from approx. 1.8m3/h to approx. 2.1m3/h, Reactor core spray system: Maintained at approx. 4.0m3/h.

[Unit 3] Feed water system: Increased from approx. 1.7m3/h to approx. 2.0m3/h, Reactor core spray system: Decreased from approx. 4.1m3/h to approx. 4.0m3/h.


What is your Idea about this Water-Levels,
what do you think about the amount of Water
in the cooling circle?

Isn't very low since Months?
Anonymous Coward
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Aloha, AC Japan!

Well, maybe the water levels seems a bit low to us but I hope they know what they are doing... we don't know what the cores looks like... probably a very low and flat pile of "glowing" junk... also, I think they try to keep the water feed at a minimum because of the problem to store contaminated water...
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N-plant operator questions regulator's assessment

The operator of the Tsuruga nuclear power plant on the Sea of Japan coast has asked a nuclear regulator to explain its assessment that faults running under one of the facility's reactors may be active.

Japan Atomic Power Company on Tuesday sent an open letter to the Nuclear Regulation Authority, saying its assessment is beyond comprehension.

On Monday, an NRA expert panel concluded that so-called crush zones under the Number 2 reactor of the plant in Fukui Prefecture may be active faults.

The firm asked the authority why it concluded that the nearby active Urasoko fault and a fault called D-1 that runs beneath the reactor could move together.
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Utility yet to decide on scrapping Tsuruga reactor

The operator of the Tsuruga nuclear power plant on the Sea of Japan coast says it has not decided whether to decommission one of the facility's reactors.

The Nuclear Regulation Authority said in an assessment meeting with experts on Monday that a fault directly under the Number 2 reactor is likely active. The assessment could lead to decommissioning of the reactor. Government guidelines prohibit building key nuclear power facilities above active faults.
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TEPCO admits to shady hiring practices at Fukushima nuclear plant

TOKYO — The head of the utility behind Japan’s nuclear crisis acknowledged Monday that hundreds of workers at the contaminated Fukushima Daiichi plant were mobilized through a shady hiring system.

Tokyo Electric Power Co President Naomi Hirose attributed the hiring problem to high worker turnover at the highly contaminated worksite, adding that the problem became prevalent as the company desperately tried to recruit workers willing to take jobs with high risks of radiation exposure.
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Japan-U.S. anti-nuclear disaster drill held at Yokosuka base

Japan and the United States held a joint antinuclear disaster drill at the U.S. Navy's Yokosuka base in Kanagawa Prefecture on Tuesday.

The drill was conducted on the assumption that radiation monitoring posts had come to a halt after a major earthquake with its focus on the Miura peninsula near Yokosuka had hit the southern Kanto region.
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*Just In* Fukushima Worker: Concrete reinforcement of Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 is terribly deteriorating… now in a “dangerous state” — Cooling system stopped working, men helicoptered in

On December 11, 2012, Japanese journalist Iwakami Yasumi received this email from Mitsuhei Murata, former Japanese ambassador to Switzerland

I received this message on 12/9/2012.

The pump of the SFP in reactor4 had been having the spotty trouble, but it went out of order on 12/8/2012 at the end.

Nuclear workers were collected for emergency to replace the pump but it takes more 2~3 days to fix they say. (Extra workers were brought by helicopter even at night.)

According to a nuclear worker collected for emergency, the concrete to reinforce the SFP is terribly deteriorating to be in the “dangerous state”.

[...] a former executive manager of a major company commented this, which is very insightful.

“My fear has come into the truth. If it was merely the problem of the pump, it wouldn’t be such an issue but if the base to support SFP4 has some damage where we can’t see, the situation is much more serious.” [...]
Ambassador Murata: “I sent this email to all the chief editors of national newspaper companies, NHK and influential people of major mass media but they all ignored it. I was shocked. I called the manager of disaster headquarter of Fukushima prefectural government but he didn’t know that. It seems like they didn’t report it to Fukushima local government. ”

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

[link to enenews.com]
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Waterbug  (OP)

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Doesn't sound very good. Unit 4 at fuku daiichi must
be swaying like a drunken sailor when the eqs hit.
We know there are cracks. Foundations don't usually do well when cracked.

The almost complete lack of information concerning daiini is troubling, no doubt.

I don't like to watch the cams because I think they are doctored..

@Canada AC
What are we looking at and what are the implications, in your view..?
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Fission Stories #121: Palisades Reprises Davis-Besse
[link to allthingsnuclear.org]
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This plant had Tritium leaks..
I wonder what they mean when they say they will test the soil to see if it is corrosive..?
Shouldn't that be done before the pipes are buried..?




Indian Point renewal hearing: Judges focus on buried pipes
[link to www.lohud.com]

[snip]

Three federal administrative judges on Monday tried to get a clearer understanding of Entergy Nuclear’s maintenance of the pipes beneath its Indian Point nuclear power plant.

“Without knowing exactly how you’re going to do it, how can we be sanguine” that your management will be adequate, head judge Lawrence McDade asked.

Entergy will also sample and analyze soil around its pipes to determine if it is corrosive.
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Good overview.


Obama’s Nuclear Agenda: The Next Four Years
[link to isnblog.ethz.ch]
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12/11/2012 06:45 PM
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Fission Stories #121: Palisades Reprises Davis-Besse
[link to allthingsnuclear.org]
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that is just scary...... where do they store any of this 'leakage'?
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Fission Stories #121: Palisades Reprises Davis-Besse
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that is just scary...... where do they store any of this 'leakage'?
 Quoting: Citizenperth


In the nearest water source..?

The solution is dilution.
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The Oi plant has the two active reactors...


Experts fear more nuke reactors may be sited over active faults
[link to ajw.asahi.com]

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The conclusion suggests, the experts say, that construction of some nuclear plants was approved despite insufficient data that electric companies provided or due to lax oversight of the authorities.

The other five sites are: Kansai Electric Power Co.’s Oi plant in Fukui Prefecture; Hokuriku Electric Power Co.’s Shika plant in Ishikawa Prefecture; Kansai Electric’s Mihama plant in Fukui Prefecture; Japan Atomic Energy Agency’s Monju prototype fast breeder reactor in Fukui Prefecture; and Tohoku Electric Power Co.’s Higashidori plant in Aomori Prefecture.
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Gundersen: M7 quake likely caused damage to spent fuel racks at Fukushima Daiichi (VIDEO)
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So that was a long prelude to answer your question, why are they building these roofs over the fuel pool? Is that they’re afraid that when they come to pull the nuclear fuel, they’re going to snap some of the bundles and they’re going to release radioactive gases.
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This is how close we came..
Could still happen if Unit 4 SFP collapses before they can unload the fuel assemblies.

I don't think people fully realize the precariousness of this situation.
Oh well.. it is what it is. Life goes on.. until it doesn't.



Plant Chief: Fukushima 10 times worse than Chernobyl if containment vessel exploded
[link to enenews.com]

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If any one of the primary containment vessels had exploded, massive amounts of radioactive material would have been released, and all nine of the other reactors at No. 1 and the nearby Fukushima No. 2 plant would have been unapproachable, Yoshida said.

All 10 would have suffered meltdowns, contaminating the environment far more than the Chernobyl accident did, Yoshida said. [...]
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Fukushima Evacuee: Many kids in region with symptoms of health damage — Abnormal changes began to occur on my son; Stomatitis, eczema, fever, epistaxis
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Fukushima Evacuee: Many kids in region with symptoms of health damage — Abnormal changes began to occur on my son; Stomatitis, eczema, fever, epistaxis
[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


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this one slipped by me: analysis of isotopes back in 2011

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Citizenperth

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more water leaking from the highly radiocative filter system... have a look at the metres cubed and think of how/ where they store it.... this is water that is meant to never see daylight let alone a synthetic/ polymer piping system....

[link to www.tepco.co.jp]

TEPCO PRESS RELEASE (Public domain)

Cesium 134: 3.9x100 Bq/cm3, cesium 137: 7.1x100 Bq/cm3, Manganese 54: 9.8x10-2 Bq/cm3
Upon investigation, the cause of the leakage was assumed to be the header joint part coming off due to the cassette drain valve opening a little when touched.
As a countermeasure, the valves similar to the concerned valve installed in the desalination system (reverse osmosis membrane) 3 have been fixed to be closed at all times with warning signs installed nearby on December 11. At 1:32 PM on the same day, the system was restarted.
-At around 11:08 on December 11, a cooperative company employee found a water puddle on the aisle in the west side of Unit 3 Turbine Building first floor.
At around 11:30 AM on the same day, the leakage was confirmed to have stopped as the filtrate water line valve was closed to check for leakage in the newly installed polyethylene pipe.
The entire aisle was affected by the leakage (approx. 5m x 90m x 10-30mm (depth)) and the leakage amount currently estimated is approx. 13m3.
The leaked water flowed into the feed water heater room on the first floor of the Turbine Building and then into the funnel (pipe going down to the basement), and it has not flowed to the outside of the building.
The radioactivity density analysis results of the leaked water were as follows.

Cesium 134: 4.2x101 Bq/cm3, cesium 137: 7.4x101 Bq/cm3
The densities are lower than that of the accumulated water in the building basement (103 - 104Bq/cm3).
Based on the radioactivity density analysis results and the fact that no leakage was found in the reactor water injection system in the building, the leaked water has been assumed to be the filtrate water used for the fire hydrant. Considering that a pressure hose is connected to the fire hydrant near the large equipment hatch in order to supply water used in the pressure test for the accumulated water transfer pipe and the hose goes through the aisle where the leakage occurred, the leakage location is estimated to be the pressure hose.... yeah.. right...'assumed'....

.... -At 10:55 AM on December 10, a cooperative company employee on patrol found water leakage in the temporary warehouse of the desalination system (reverse osmosis membrane) 3. At 10:55 AM on the same day, the desalination system 3 was suspended and the leakage was confirmed to have stopped. The area affected by the leakage was approx. 4m x 8m x 3mm

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