I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

well pretending not to have read my posts would be against you obsession of reading every other post and downtalking everyone,

however this is not the reason i am posting,

the knowing of the mean of "be", is far more complex than it is surveyed within the limits of language,

there are many "be"s in one person because there are more than one density you exist in,

but that also is not what I am posting for,

the real reason is to analyze your posts,

there are certain mistakes you committed that gave you away,

1. Providing certain books and videos that are supposed to portray the whole truth.

2. Using complex words to downtalk the "obtuse".

3. Putting too much space between the lines of a post and ending them with videos and unnecessary links,

This is a common technique to overwhelm the average poster.

4. Seeking agreement with any one who posts,

That makes you look overwhelmed.

5. Insulting people and ignoring posts that will make you either look ignorant or mistaken.

6. Quoting and reposting you own posts.

So here goes some advice to help you better you techniques.

Not only the TPTB have shills to disinfo threads like you do, the good side have them to disinfo the disinfo'ers.

oh and i forgot the post above is meant for 666.

Also no thoughts can see, thoughts can create, thoughts can feel and if given enough essence can also think.

The mind is not a prison the mind is a powerful tool once activated,

We are not trapped by our minds but with the lack of knowledge about activating them.

The real mind is not in your physical body but in a body of yours that exists on another level but overlaps your spine and controls the physical body from the nerve point in the spine.

:bigbsflag:

You've got it Sanctuary, pure and simple !



Hey body of energy,

the beginning of this video is for you. But you'll get a good chuckle from listening to the rest as well, as will anybody who isn't a bit paranoid here (to the rest: don't watch it, it is just all manufactured by reptile shapeshifters to lead you astray).

His monastery is here:

[link to www.snowmass.org]

Between 14:00 and 16:00 of the video, BTW, he implicitly speaks about the author of these books (he knows her personally AFAIK):



the first one of which autobiographically describes her passage into this state.

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Now of course remember: according to "Insider" and people paranoid enough to take his words as reliable uncritically make it quite clear that Father Keating is following a completely wrong path of living - he has been practicing "abominations" in fact for more than half a century.

bwwwwwwwAHAHAHA

Strange enough, I assume that Keating wouldn't commit "Insider's" spelling errors or be guilty of his lack of education necessary for a "bloodline member".

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Strange how conspiracy theorists like myself are more often than not forced consider each other as borderline psychopaths.

Sorry, this is what I meant:

Originially this was an amazing thread. but i think its all been deleted and reposted differntly since then. A bit like the bible.

And just like prodound spirituality

this thread

became better

in spite

not because

of its scriptural foundations.

BTW,

and I say this as a non-christian in the socio-religious sense

fundamentalist protestant USA is quite unaware of the fact that Christianity is not a book religion.

It does not

like Judaism

center around a written law

nor

like Islam

around a scripture.


The truth about a good christianity is

it could easily

and probably much better

exist largely without the bible

and in fact this is how it started.

Like this for instance



or like this



or like this !!!



"Abomination !!!!!!!"

:))

and I will answer them in short.

Why?
Because I can.

 Quoting: Insider 0

Hi.

Could you please fund my project? I only need about 65 million dollars!

So, 666, now you want to give us a lesson about how good is Christianity?

I thought you were more interested in spelling mistakes?

Also at least if you took the liberty to post some books I think I will post one.

Here, this is the book containing most of the questions and the answers insider gave, this thread was hacked and the posts were deleted but we kept it in PDF format to repost it, and we attracted a shill and a fanatic Christian along with it.

[link to www.4shared.com]

People please read that book first if you want to know what this thread is all about, because the posts were hacked and deleted years ago

Also I think I will repost something important about 666's enlightening posts,



I will give an example of each point by quotes from your own posts;

1. Providing certain books and videos that are supposed to portray the whole truth.

I highly recommend these three books by the contemporary catholic mystic Bernadette Roberts:

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

2. Using complex words to downtalk the "obtuse".

This logical fallacy is called "argumentum ad personam", even if it were true.

3. Putting too much space between the lines of a post and ending them with videos and unnecessary links,

This is a common technique to overwhelm the average poster.

After this new set of flatulent bowel movements









Perhaps it would hurt to humbly point out



what I was actually saying




without being really interested








in any psychpathology






from any direction:











uhm

lol also he misspelled the word psychpathology

4. Seeking agreement with any one who posts,

That makes you look overwhelmed.

Many have been "anointed".
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 594943


So you agree with me in disagreeing with "Insider".

5. Insulting people and ignoring posts that will make you either look ignorant or mistaken.

The more I experience peasants' reactions, the more I understand - not sympathize with - cruel elitists idea to simply kill most of them off.

he also tried to copy insider by using the word peasants.

as for number 6

6. Quoting and reposting you own posts,

it is too obvious without giving examples.

Also he pointed in one of his posts that he will soon “disengage” from the thread soon:

Given the level and emotionality of the replies, I will follow Insider's example and disengage from this thread soon

but yet he stayed flooding the thread with books and videos.

now i know this will show me as an immature person, but that was the technique 666 used to debunk the thread, i am merely giving him a dose from his own medicine.

AS usual, I read first line.

Usually wrong already.



Thanks, but no thanks.

As usual I didn't read the rest.

It has become amply clear for about the last half dozen or post that there is nothing I can learn from you in any matters concerning this thread.

Besides here on my shelf there is the first 6 volumes

of a 10 volume work of incomparable historical research by Karlheinz Deschner (he researches around 100 hours a week for his writings)

titled

"Die Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums"

("The Criminal History of Christianity")

All knowledge concerning the corruption of christian churches that has any validity is gathered here.

A teaching from you ?


bwwwahahaha

You see: I know why I do not simply call myself a christian, especially when speaking with people from the USA. I am at least as much a buddhist as a christian, but I am neither without the other.

Mostly I am not restricted by any dogma.

Another fantastic book by Deschner BTW:

[link to www.amazon.com]

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Nevertheless, all that doesn't subtract one iota from this:

As you can see I misread your first line

but it is false just the same.

Because my point is not how I want to teach you how good christianity is.

The point was The last line before the

":))"

in the quote above.

Can't you see how embarrassing the simplistic stupidity involved in "Insider"'s judgment is ?

No one who has any education and much less anyone from a "superior" blodline should be that stupid.

The point is: you should not fall for this guy.

logos666
do you possibly also know if the bible was written from the vieuw point of elohim (gen 1:1)

HAhahahaha




Glad you asked although I am not so sure I am glad you asked.

Well, let me take the occasion to answer as if you had been serious since some readers may have read you that way.

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You are probably aware that "elohim" is plural grammatically. The term likely reflects the coming together, and amalgamation of several versions of divinity into a more abstract unified version -

much like the experience of making love to this girl and that young lady gave rise to a general idea of sexiness expressed by "Ashtarte"/"Aphrodite"/"Venus" (because of her beauty the Romans identified this last version with the morning star, the "Carrier of Light"/"Lucifer" - has nothing to do with "Sheitan"/"Satan", as you can see). They still venerate Venus on the media, and notice how she keeps changing representative bodies as soon as they turn old. There is something satanistic about this otherwise merely luciferian worship because it is not based on veneration of beauty and pure passion but on attachment to lust and selfish sex and its economic yield.

[Oh BTW, Ashtarte used to inhabit the most sacred in Solomon's temple until she was thrown out. And if you purely want the empty ultimate there, I realize both male and female aspects purusha/prakriti of the dynamic whole have to get out]

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As a general rule of thumb I wouldn't recommend the old testament except through the filter of the new testament, and even that with great precaution since the latter is also partly corrupt.

It is a love story between the divine and an emerging self-consciousness of a pretty unevolved people with all the muck and grime and heinous primitivity that comes with that.

Insofar, the POV is not that of elohim, and it is very unfortunate that people today - instead of appreciating that people's contribution in its right context - still hang on to it as if it was the word of god instead of hebrew word about god.

Large parts of the old testament were copied from assyrian law codices, and Noah's story was taken from the much older Gilgamesh epos, for example, and it goes on and on.

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That said, there indeed are some gems even in the OT, among the Psalms for instance, I consider Job's story spiritually highly significant, but my favorites are

Psalm 46:11
11 Be still and know/see that I am God;

where according to Tolle all bold printed words are synonyms, and

Exodus 3:14

[link to www.newadvent.org]

which no other than this great saint recommended as the best definition of "G_d":



In places like these, you might say that it is indeed Adonai that speaks.

So you might take those few parts of the OT and much larger parts of the NT and then the Gospel of Thomas (outside the bible) and you'll probably have all you need as scriptural inspiration for a good, dogma-free christianity.


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Christianity's contribtion to the wisdom traditions is not so much the basic literature. Whoever approaches it that way (belch) damages its purpose, IMO.

It is the particular kind of power, the big bang of a particularly radical form of love which shines through, indeed outshines all the nonsense that was made of it, and in that aspect even outshines, IMO, previous expressions of love by realizers of the ultimate.

More


"abominations"
("Insider")






Be careful, this stuff is all fake stuff "created for you"
("Insider")







or perhaps shapeshifting reptiles are behind it








who knows.


:)))))))))

If you think you see a resemblance



please consider that Father Thomas Keating was roughly 85 years old when he gave that interview.




"Yeah he looks like he wants that power over the earth for the rest of his life !"



:)))

When?

Forgive me Jesus


:)))

If you paid close attention to my posts you would probably have learned something from them,

I have on shelf here the book “Mystical Qabalah” by Dion Fortune, a book that represents an amazing introduction to Jewish mysticism; note that Christianity is Jewish in origin,

So instead of giving boring repetitive posts about how you are a Christian who doesn’t speak as a Christian and doesn’t know the origin of the reference of “be” or how identity is difference from certain manifestations, you should have properly introduced Chritian and Jewish mysticism to yourself instead of arguing hollow points.

For example, the word confusing you, “Elohim” is a single feminine word turned into the plural sense using the masculine suffix, the word in its single form is called Aeloh, adding the masculine plural suffix Heem it is called, Aeloheem.

The resultant word is a godname component, godnames or words of power are words once vibrated channels a force around the speaker or in the speaker’s target,

if you read insiders comments closely you will notice that he said that everything has a frequency and it attracted the forces relevant to its frequency around it and in the containing medium, so all our talk is actually relevant to the revelations of insider.

Also if you read the book I mentioned above you will also understand my talk about macrocosmic and microcosmic consciousnesses,

Any one who studied the occult will know that the Christ consciousness is attributed to tiphareth the sphere of beauty, which is also associated with sacrifice.

My talk may seem nonsense to you but if you google the tree of life or get the book mystical qabalah and read it thoroughly you will at least get an idea about what I am saying here.

Here is a link that will give you the book for free;

[link to athenaeum.asiya.org]

Could be.

Anyway, hang loose !

Oh that kind of stuff, you mean.

Well the origin is not necessarily closer to the truth. The Buddha was originally a hedonist and then a morbid ascete. What became of him was much better.

Also, the origin of the "Christos" is not in any religious tradition. It is in the source of life.

Remember this forever:

"Culture is not your friend"
(Terence McKenna)

As far as all the over-complicated esoteric complications mixed with mythical symbolism and culture bound erroneous imaginations go

been there, done that. It's the same in the tantric yoga tradition

The simple stuff is better, and much more relevant for 99,99% of the practitioners. Also, he truth is the Qabbalah can also be plainly stated without any secrecy.


As I said earlier:



IMO, this is all one needs to know about the Qabbalah - unless one is a dogmatic, orthodox Jew.

Persian Sufis the only ones to remember the spiritual origins of western civilization in Parmenides and Empedokles ???


You can see how ambivalent the question of "origins" can be



the truth is always new and independent of secret "information". Its origin is Now.

But I admit that submitting to fascination is more attractive than going through the hard process of confronting the simple truth.

I still enjoy it sometimes:

The "esoteric complications" are most necessary to understand truth,

The truth is simple but the stages leading to it are not,

The "Christ" is not a person but a stage of development and consciousness that is portrayed in every esoteric tradition, there may be some personalization and attached thought-forms but in essence Christ is a stage of development.

Esoteric traditions are free from dogma, prophets and leaders; it is only you and the divine, if you know your way into the traditions.

And remarkably if you have "been here, done that", you wouldn't have said it is too simple.

And there is much more to Qabalah than the irrelevant things mentioned by you which actually has nothing to do with Qabalah, and you don't have to be a dogmatic orthodox Jew to study and understand Qabalah.

As for the secrecy, it is there to prevent people who didn’t reach a certain stage of development from jumping to the traditions unready.

And you would do well to remember this;

Esoteric traditions are not made from religion, but religions are made from esoteric traditions.

Do your know any forein languages?

For Christ's sake :))

your Madonna-hood

please stop whining already and let off with this esoteric stuff.

Are there profound secrets ?

Yes
(but you see: they are secret, not because they are kept that way, but - being trans-verbal, they naturally are, you can't know them until you are there :)))

Are there descriptive complications
(true or [more often than not] merely deplorable thought-conditionings from the past) ?

Yes.

Are the descriptive complications - even where they contain truth - in any way relevant or helpful for the vast majority of those interested in such matters, that is until they see the reality to which the descriptions correspond ?

No.

And yes, I say this because I have been there done that (not that I am done with it, it's just not relevant)

I wish you'd come into my Yoga class and I would likely see that you cannot even get your tadasana right, or for that matter even shavasana, or even your basic breath or your interactions on the internet, let alone your love life.

Will I accept that esoteric complications are of relevance before one gets his basic act straight and has at least become comfortable confronting one's nothing(-in particular-)ness and living from that POV day in and out ?

No.

Likely, even when you are there help will be provided from outside the past traditions dripping with more problems than solutions. Do not rely on the traditions' historical self-assessments, they are usually full of lies and exaggerations (see last link below !).

And hence:



And finally:

Do I suppose that an "Insider"

who obviously lacks basic understanding of major world religions

and

nevertheless judges them based on such dilettantism

might nevertheless command such true secrets ?

Hell, no.


_______________________




With this I completely unwittingly opened a pandora's box of educational and spiritual delight !

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.peterkingsley.org]

Note the testimonials.

You will not get around this book if you want to get your esoteric history straight:

[link to www.peterkingsley.org]

I thought that perhaps you by now have outgrown the habit of insulting fellow posters but apparently I was mistaken it seems.

No I will not "let off" the esoteric "stuff",

Why? Because they have all relevance to this thread.

There are profound secrets but you have to know them to be "there".

Now as for "descriptive complications" they are necessary because the descriptive complications are images that portray the way of being and its force in a certain stage,

For example; the image of kether, an ancient bearded king all what is seen from him is the right side,

this means that we see a side from creation but the other side (the kings left side) is unknown to us, that side is the side where the three veils of negative existence are.

That means that there are two types of existence, manifestation and negative existence (the unmanifest),

Much like the binary 0 and 1.

Also in the testaments kether is referred to as "The Most High",

And to get your things straight you have to at least use your brain while dealing with the esoteric,

No one will give you these secrets on a silver platter you will have to work for it,

“Past traditions” are tools to a desired end, their truthfulness depend on how much you understand and how much you worked their puzzles and images.

And no I don’t think you have been there with Qabalah.

Nothing-in-particular-ness refers to a stage of generalization that is not healthy while dealing with esoteric traditions, because many things-in-particular will be ignored, very much like you do.

nothing-in-particular-ness, is useful in general meditation and in focusing on the big picture, as some call it, or to empty yourself from emotions and thoughts,

to make your mind blank if you allow me tosay,

but sometimes you have to focus your emotions in a certain way and focus your attention on some image or force or concept to understand,

in esoteric study you will have to do that alot of times.

it does not do to live your day in a state of nothing-in-particular-ness,

I used to give off this kind off superficial, conceptual drivel mixed with misunderstandings 20 years ago.

No wonder I get to be taught by you who are merely myself.

____________


"Insider": outsider.

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I am not and have never been a follower of "Bubba", BTW.

But those who would have to answer the question

"Are you experienced ?"

with

"Yes, to the samll degree you saw fit, Lord"


will sense that he must have been an insider.

I'll leave you with this, especially 1:58 - 4:00, and there particularly

2:55-3:15



and here (besides those mentioned in my first post on the thread), again, examples of people who got it right - without supposed "secret knowledge":




"Abomination !!!!!!!"

:))


Don't let yourself be led astray by people who haven't got their act together.

Lovetruth bless you.