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UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!

 
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UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

[link to thehill.com]

Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."

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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

[link to thehill.com]

Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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5 Stars and pin suggestion.

This is a big deal.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

[link to thehill.com]

Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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5 Stars and pin suggestion.

This is a big deal.
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Thanks, I thought it is the most important news story of the day myself.
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Well, at least two Republicans in Congress aren't fascists -- both Pauls.
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Pray that they aren't allowed to dismantle the Bill of Rights. I don't know what the heck is going on with McCain, but I think it might have been a discussion that occurred at the Bohemian Grove last July. How awful.
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If John McCain is a republican, I am Santa Claus.
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I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
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I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
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McCain is a huge POS.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
I do not think there is one comment after this artcle that supports Mccains' position.

People are getting pissed!
 Quoting: Always Looking



McCain is a huge POS.
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I'll drink a beer in celebration the day that fucker draws his last breath.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
McCains father covered up the USS Liberty incident.
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This needs PINNED!! McCain is a traitor.
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At least we have one voice in the Senate screaming for us the "Average American"!
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Thanks for the pin mods. If this bill passes we are in serious trouble.

This is how Hitler and Stalin started slow and steady and by the time they are rounding people up it will be to late...
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Thanks for the pin mods. If this bill passes we are in serious trouble.

This is how Hitler and Stalin started slow and steady and by the time they are rounding people up it will be to late...
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:2nd ame:
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
since our President isn't providing any leadership on this seriously contentious issue, you can refer to his notes from may 24 on the matter if interested (they mostly just involve the president clamoring for more power):

[link to www.presidency.ucsb.edu]
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McCain is dangerous.

Wasn't he the politician who said American politicians aren't thinking much and when they do it they are not very good at it?
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The Paul Boy's are true patriots...bump
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McCain is a big government progressive that thinks he can take care of us better than we can take care of ourselves. Progressives think the Constitution is an obstacle in the way them doing what they consider to be right. Apparently they do not remember the oath they took when they were sworn in. Vote them out next November.
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McCain should read the Constitution and then commit some serious act of pennance; like resignation.

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McCain is a big government progressive that thinks he can take care of us better than we can take care of ourselves. Progressives think the Constitution is an obstacle in the way them doing what they consider to be right. Apparently they do not remember the oath they took when they were sworn in. Vote them out next November.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Guys,

Please stop with the Liberal Progressive vs. Conservative bullshit. It's getting old.

These people are GLOBALIST. They are raping the country and stealing our Rights. They KNOW some of us are waking up and will resist. THAT'S WHY this law is being passed. They consider YOU the enemy.

The time has come to choose sides. It's not Liberal vs. Conservative. It's Globalist vs. Patriots. Submit and support or Resist and Fight.
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Too bad he's not still a pow in the Vietnam jungles
where he belongs. What a treasonous trailer to the
American people. F#<king penguin.
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Great post WE are in trouble my question is how many actually voted for this pos our last presidential election. Our choices were this guy and what we have now, its like they play for the same team just different approaches. OUR only hope is RON PAUL for president he needs our help the main stream wont mention him word of mouth and internet is all we have left
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Guys,

Please stop with the Liberal Progressive vs. Conservative bullshit. It's getting old.

These people are GLOBALIST. They are raping the country and stealing our Rights. They KNOW some of us are waking up and will resist. THAT'S WHY this law is being passed. They consider YOU the enemy.

The time has come to choose sides. It's not Liberal vs. Conservative. It's Globalist vs. Patriots. Submit and support or Resist and Fight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1061562


Amen.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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McCain was placed in the Senate. He was very unpopular in AZ and yet was re-elected. Maybe this bill was why he was "re-elected"...??

From TPM:

A new survey of Arizona by Public Policy Polling (D) finds that Sen. John McCain's approval rating has plummeted in his home state, a year and half since he won it in the 2008 presidential election. However, the GOP would still be much worse off if McCain lost his Republican primary against former Rep. J.D. Hayworth.

McCain's approval rating is only 34%, with 55% disapproval. Back in September, when the last PPP numbers from Arizona were taken, McCain was in positive territory at 48%-42%.

More here:

[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]
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Re: UPDATE: THE ORWELLIAN PORTION OF THE BILL PASSED!!!Rand Paul and John McCain spar on the Senate floor over Orwerllian bill!!!
Read the comments after the story, very telling as to were we all stand on this.

McCain sounds like a dictator!

[link to thehill.com]

Sens. Paul, McCain clash over terrorist detainee amendment
By Josiah Ryan - 11/29/11 11:29 AM ET

Republican Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and John McCain (Ariz.) battled on the Senate floor Tuesday over a proposed amendment to the pending defense authorization bill that could allow American citizens who are suspected of terrorism to be denied a civilian trial.

Paul argued the amendment, which is cosponsored by McCain, "puts every single American citizen at risk" and suggested that if the amendment passes, "the terrorists have won."
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5 Stars and pin suggestion.

This is a big deal.
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^ Dittos ^

And FYI, McLame is only half a dictator.
The dic half.
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A limp one at that. Just goes to show you that the US would have lost no matter who won the 2008 election. Seems that there was no lesser of two evils.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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At least we have one voice in the Senate screaming for us the "Average American"!
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That's 1 vs 99.

I hope Chuck Norris shows up to help Rand.
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Too bad Ahnold went all politico and soft on us. I'd like to see him drive his Hummer right over McCain like a speed bump.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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McCain must have been hit over the head or shocked one too many times while he was a POW, he's not thinking...at all.
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