Evidence that crop circles are man made.

There will never be enough proof presented for the corrupt person that is Idol. He even denies that many of the very complex ones are laid down in an intricate weaved pattern. He obvious hasn't looked or done any amount of research on this phenom.

Look at some of the patterns and weaved grasses at www.cropcircleconnector.com and you can see how Idol continues to lie and misdirect.

It certainly looks like he very much does have an agenda here. Not knowing some of the basic facts proves this. Sorry Idol... but busted again!

Some people are making crop circles so by your logic that means all crop circles are man made?

"Some people are making crop circles so by your logic that means all crop circles are man made?"

Yes, unless you prove that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth.

i saw a man do a huge portrait of himself using a tractor mower and a gps it was amazing. several acres large. smoked most crop circles. they have gps technology in the private sector with up to one eigth inch error. i just saw one today.

Do you not think they would develop the technology back in their home world before the mission?
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Well NASA and ESA continously updates the software of their equipment in space and on Mars. So what's the difference?

Well you see it's very easy and narrow minded to state that if I've never seen an ET means they don't exists.

Even if I provide you with evidence of ET's existance you won't believe it, for the confirmation has to come from an official source. It's true, that's how human beings on this planet determine facts.

I wonder what it would be like if anyone has ever had big booty sex in a crop circle?

Can lies be called too?

Go and explain how you would fake this one:
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Sorry, better views here:
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idol has remained stuck in a toddler's phase of defiance.

Debunkers are easy to manipulate, most of them rely on information from others. It doesn't matter if it's utter BS or not, all they need is a simple link to a story supporting their believes. Always ignoring the real questions they can't provide an answer for.

Remember that mankind once thought the earth was flat. It was logical back then.

same tired old shit from idol you stupid wench. fuck off and die and leave us from your pathetic debunkery attempts. hoor!

Yep, only psychopaths are able to self-manipulate themselves in such an obvious and striking manner.

Cause they cannot feel.

"i saw a man do a huge portrait of himself using a tractor mower and a gps it was amazing. several acres large. smoked most crop circles. they have gps technology in the private sector with up to one eigth inch error. i just saw one today."

See? And faces are much more complex than combinations of geometric primitives. So do not tell me humans are not able to create them.

"Well NASA and ESA continously updates the software of their equipment in space and on Mars."

This requires a radio link. This is for Earth-Mars distance. Now, with a lag of several years this can be completely ruled out.

"Go and explain how you would fake this one:
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If we can reproduce faces, we certainly can do that.

Idol, I owe you about 50 of these
but unlike you, I'll stop at one.

"Yes, unless you prove that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth."

Who say they have to visit earth to make them?

I agree that all crop circles are man made. Here is how I think it is done. First imagine a cookie-dough shaper.

You insert a disc for the desired shape and push the dough through the disk and get you choice of shape of cookies.

It has been well-established that the "alien" circles are made from stalks that are bent from an effect similar to microwaves.

So imagine the bored nerds in the secret programs with access to high-tech equipment. They get on their computers and make designs which they believe have abstract meaning and insert the pre-programed design into the microwave shooter and ... volaa, another circle.

Could be the big shots called the designs, dunno, but they are man made.

Idol,get off this extra-terrestrial thing of yours.
Not all Ufos or orbs are flying saucers. That was a bit hard for me to understand at first as well.Going to the metaphysical route. No other way.I have seen them and so have others...

Early crop circles (i.e. basic circle) were thought to be evidence of UFO landings. When they became more complex, they were then credited to the aliens trying to send us messages.

Bullshit. They are man-made. The culprits can prove it and do regularly. Anyone who can't see that is trying TOO hard to believe in ET life.

I am convinced we are not "alone", but crop circles have absolutely nothing to do with it IMO.

Idol,it would be more satisfactory for you,if you'd argue this matter with cc experts,maybe you have.Once again,have you ever had a paranormal experience,whereby your logic was inadequate to come up with a rational explanation? Do you hold life to be merely rational,devoid of mysteries?Forum members would appreciate your honesty concerning my question,I hope you will have the courtesy to reply.

Given the billions of stars in our galaxy and billions(trillions?, gazillions?) of galaxies in our universe, the odds of other intelligent life are pretty good. To this end, I am inclined to believe that alienns exist somewhere in the universe. Are they here near earth? Maybe, maybe not. Do they fly UFO's, maybe maybe not. Do the UFO's create crop circles? Probably not, but not ruled out completely. Can cows fly? They don't fly here on earth obviously, but it's possible that a cow in another galaxy has wings and can fly. Should I believe that cows can fly? Not without some concrete evidence. Should we start a new flying cow conspiracy? Absolutely!! The flying cows are the ones creating the crop circles!!!!!

Idol,I've got a dutch/english cropcircle website for you and an e-mail adress.Now you can ventilate all your (in)valid arguments to that person,Janet Ossebaard from Holland,whom I've met.Perhaps that'll be more satisfactory for you:[email protected] you pick up the gauntlet?I hope so.Feel free to report back your conclusions back to GLP.Good luck.

"Once again,have you ever had a paranormal experience,whereby your logic was inadequate to come up with a rational explanation?"

There is no such a thing as paranormal experiences. They are just unexplained.

"Do you hold life to be merely rational,devoid of mysteries?"

What you call a mystery I call it a problem to be solved.

"Can cows fly? They don't fly here on earth obviously, but it's possible that a cow in another galaxy has wings and can fly. Should I believe that cows can fly? Not without some concrete evidence. Should we start a new flying cow conspiracy? Absolutely!! The flying cows are the ones creating the crop circles!!!!!"

Good analogy.

"Idol,I've got a dutch/english cropcircle website for you and an e-mail adress.Now you can ventilate all your (in)valid arguments to that person,Janet Ossebaard from Holland,whom I've met.Perhaps that'll be more satisfactory for you:[email protected] you pick up the gauntlet?I hope so.Feel free to report back your conclusions back to GLP.Good luck."

Please, call him to register here. I do not use MSN, e-mail, IRC, ICQ, et cetera to take part in these discussions.

"Can cows fly? They don't fly here on earth obviously, but it's possible that a cow in another galaxy has wings and can fly. Should I believe that cows can fly? Not without some concrete evidence. Should we start a new flying cow conspiracy? Absolutely!! The flying cows are the ones creating the crop circles!!!!!"

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wow...if cows flew imagine the messes the droppings would create

" If we can reproduce faces, we certainly can do that. " <---- she meant crop circles of course.

" There is no such a thing as paranormal experiences. They are just unexplained. "

Two striking examples of idols somehow convincing logic.

"Think about it. How many people have witnessed a yard being rolled?"

They are made in remote locations and the perpetrators certainly think of ways of not being discovered, thus the probability of someone to witness them is almost zero. How many people witness the killing of premature seals in Arctic? How many people witness rainforest destruction? The absence of witness does not invalidate the explanation, since the Circlemakers crew did one before the NGC cameras. That is a rather good witness for me.