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regardless of who did what, i think the videos should be off yutoob. you know how kids are, their classmates are going to watch them and probably make fun of them for it... also i don't understand how people can stand behind these hippies who skipped the country and admitted "mild abuse" everyone seems ok that he smacked g so hard he couldn't hear and hit a with spoons. it's beyond me that everyone KNOWS when the kids lie and not. to me, in the recant, he seemed so scared of the hemp man. last question, "do i have to see him again?" :( that seemed most sincere to me.

i hope i'm being fair here, i've heard people are being banned for questioning the original videos. we need discernment, stuff like this happens such as the franklin cover up and the stuff going on with the british government, but i think this story may have been made to take heat off the governments current scandals.
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regardless of who did what, i think the videos should be off yutoob. you know how kids are, their classmates are going to watch them and probably make fun of them for it... also i don't understand how people can stand behind these hippies who skipped the country and admitted "mild abuse" everyone seems ok that he smacked g so hard he couldn't hear and hit a with spoons. it's beyond me that everyone KNOWS when the kids lie and not. to me, in the recant, he seemed so scared of the hemp man. last question, "do i have to see him again?" :( that seemed most sincere to me.

i hope i'm being fair here, i've heard people are being banned for questioning the original videos. we need discernment, stuff like this happens such as the franklin cover up and the stuff going on with the british government, but i think this story may have been made to take heat off the governments current scandals.
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Unfortunatley the poor kids have been so damaged they wont be in a normal class anytime soon I would think they will need much rehabilitation before that could happen, I would hope their names would be changed etc.

You are very entitled to your opinion, however I believe this stuff is happening and these kids have seen it :(

You wont be banned for your thoughts AC .... Its when people start bandying names around or just spouting vitriol that we have to remove them and their speen.
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This got stranger after hearing this. The police sound real suspect. I've done that job and this is not how we approached entry. It sounded rogue almost, like they really weren't supposed to be there, or they did not want media attention popping up to provide a video or paper trail of their actions.







This is what the UK police were alleging on the mother, w/out a warrant mind you, so no magistrate signed off on the accusations...don't know how different the UK is from the US, but there is a old magistrate dude to sign every Tom, Dick, and Harry warrant in a jail, or Sheriff office, after hours that is.



Section 4

This section creates the offence of "putting people in fear of violence" where a person "causes another to fear, on at least two occasions, that violence will be used against him" provided "he knows or ought to know that his course of conduct will cause the other so to fear on each of those occasions".[14]

There are a number of defences. These include showing that the course of conduct is pursued for the "purpose of preventing or detecting crime" or "reasonable for the protection of himself or another or for the protection of his or another’s property."[15]

In 2001, David Ormerod said that this section "could have been drafted more clearly all round".[16]

Offences under section 4 are triable either way. A person guilty of an offence under section 4 is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, or to a fine, or to both, or, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both.[17]

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UK Column report on the quality of investigative journalism of the Daily Mail:

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Its funny to watch people pretend to be insiders........

I'll let this silly little group of broke conspiracy theorists and a few anon members go to the church and cause mayhem and solve nothing.....
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Do some satanists really commit crimes and abuse children? Many people believe not. My own hard-earned professional experience tells me otherwise.

This chapter is an account of my own journey: a journey from relative ignorance prior to 1980, through growing awareness of the extent of child sexual abuse, through my bizarre, frightening introduction to satanist ritual abuse, to my eventual belief that satanist crime does, indeed, occur. And I would like to think that mine is a reflective, rather than reflexive, belief (van der Hart & Nijenhuis, 1999) – that is, belief that stems from reflecting on the evidence, rather that blind acceptance of what initially seems highly improbable.

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No there are not ever any satanist who are pedi files
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This was meant as s sarcastic comment by the way
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Inspired by BBC comedy?
Or BBC comedy inspired by real life?
70's jimmyfixit a cult and dark northern towns and cannabilism and strange people


Thread: Hampstead sex abuse cult selling sacrificed babies meat in local butchers!


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Quite abit of the children's story is fabricated, not alot, but there are portions that are, notice, a few things the children say that are clear lies

DC m says to G, how many plastic willies are there, he looks very genuine and answers, ''millions''......that is obviously a lie....

When it comes to baby skin shoes, he says, they take the skin cos its sticky, n stick it on the flip flops, do you guys really think that's how leather products are made?

Another lie, they werent lies, but they are child-like exaggerations, who does it? All the schools in Hampstead, I have friends in Hampstead I highly doubt do it.......and that leads to another possible exaggeration, do ALL the parents do it I doubt it......

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That's the child's side of things, not exactly as it seems......

Then you got Belinda n her group of crazies they are not exactly as they seem....

Then you got the biggest weirdos in this, and again, that is a whole new level of strange the public are not ready for, plus prob won't accept, that goes way beyond the foster care or money shit they are tryna angle, I hear Belinda talking about these are once abused children re-abusing, it isn't that simple.....
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thank you all for sharing this information.

it is my opinion that we are witnessing a huge cover up. at the end we might learn that the case Jimmy Savile was nothing compared to this one, let us wait and see!

I just got done listening to that radio show you guys had posted on this page and I was glad to hear them address the very same points we where talking about here.

there is absolutely no justification, that the most important evidence had been left out by this judge.

piercing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tattoo's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and other on the genitalia of the accused
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Quite abit of the children's story is fabricated, not alot, but there are portions that are, notice, a few things the children say that are clear lies

DC m says to G, how many plastic willies are there, he looks very genuine and answers, ''millions''......that is obviously a lie....

When it comes to baby skin shoes, he says, they take the skin cos its sticky, n stick it on the flip flops, do you guys really think that's how leather products are made?

Another lie, they werent lies, but they are child-like exaggerations, who does it? All the schools in Hampstead, I have friends in Hampstead I highly doubt do it.......and that leads to another possible exaggeration, do ALL the parents do it I doubt it......
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I think any rational person recognises that the children must have embellished a certain amount of their story; but that is absolutley no reason to ignore the core of their allegations.

Injustice Pauffley used the kids' embellishment as an excuse to declare the whole thing a concoction, and to denigrate the mother and AC, whereas she should have considered the core of the story and set up an investigatio to determine if these core items were fact or fiction. She didn't.

I am certain those kids were abused. Just because one party is guilty does not mean the other is innocent; it is quite likely imo that there is guilt of varying degrees on all sides of this story.
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Quite abit of the children's story is fabricated, not alot, but there are portions that are, notice, a few things the children say that are clear lies

DC m says to G, how many plastic willies are there, he looks very genuine and answers, ''millions''......that is obviously a lie....

When it comes to baby skin shoes, he says, they take the skin cos its sticky, n stick it on the flip flops, do you guys really think that's how leather products are made?

Another lie, they werent lies, but they are child-like exaggerations, who does it? All the schools in Hampstead, I have friends in Hampstead I highly doubt do it.......and that leads to another possible exaggeration, do ALL the parents do it I doubt it......
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I think any rational person recognises that the children must have embellished a certain amount of their story; but that is absolutley no reason to ignore the core of their allegations.

Injustice Pauffley used the kids' embellishment as an excuse to declare the whole thing a concoction, and to denigrate the mother and AC, whereas she should have considered the core of the story and set up an investigatio to determine if these core items were fact or fiction. She didn't.

I am certain those kids were abused. Just because one party is guilty does not mean the other is innocent; it is quite likely imo that there is guilt of varying degrees on all sides of this story.
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Palfrey is so obvious though,
Why?
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Quite abit of the children's story is fabricated, not alot, but there are portions that are, notice, a few things the children say that are clear lies

DC m says to G, how many plastic willies are there, he looks very genuine and answers, ''millions''......that is obviously a lie....

When it comes to baby skin shoes, he says, they take the skin cos its sticky, n stick it on the flip flops, do you guys really think that's how leather products are made?

Another lie, they werent lies, but they are child-like exaggerations, who does it? All the schools in Hampstead, I have friends in Hampstead I highly doubt do it.......and that leads to another possible exaggeration, do ALL the parents do it I doubt it......
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I think any rational person recognises that the children must have embellished a certain amount of their story; but that is absolutley no reason to ignore the core of their allegations.

Injustice Pauffley used the kids' embellishment as an excuse to declare the whole thing a concoction, and to denigrate the mother and AC, whereas she should have considered the core of the story and set up an investigatio to determine if these core items were fact or fiction. She didn't.

I am certain those kids were abused. Just because one party is guilty does not mean the other is innocent; it is quite likely imo that there is guilt of varying degrees on all sides of this story.
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Everyone knows my position on this already........I think what makes me different from the average person is, I'm only on here for this case, I've never been a conspiracy theorist, and I don't have the us vs them mind state so many of you seem to have, becasuse I grew up a poor child in a poor neighborhood(was severely abused beyond belief), and now am extremely wealthy and powerful, due to my hard work and dedication, and no the GMO cucumbers, or the bank, or the chemtrails didn't kill me......

So i take you guys stories with a grain of salt, im also clued up enough to know, not all police are nice guys and governments can be corrupt as fuck, I lived thelight iI lived the dark, iI lived the rich I lived the poor, I lived the hell I lived a better life, I've seen it all, and what I have come to realize is one thing, one thing has stayed consistent to me in all my life, and that is, the truth, is never black or white but allways grey
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This thread is a second opportunity for people to discuss this topic in a civil manner. That is not happening and right now, I am trying to think of a damn good reason why I should not lock this thread.
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I am getting an ENORMOUS amount of abusive post reports on this thread.

This thread is a second opportunity for people to discuss this topic in a civil manner. That is not happening and right now, I am trying to think of a damn good reason why I should not lock this thread.
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Can we see one of the reports, because everything seems pretty tame if you ask me?

Maybe I missed something
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I am getting an ENORMOUS amount of abusive post reports on this thread.

This thread is a second opportunity for people to discuss this topic in a civil manner. That is not happening and right now, I am trying to think of a damn good reason why I should not lock this thread.
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well, it's one of the most important in recent uk legal history for a start. and then there's the kids to think of. All most here want is a proper investigation.
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If Lady Jane says that this is so then I don't question. AM you are coming across as very condacending and dare I say it feel you are better than others ...I don't know :( You are coming with good points but in here we should all be equal.

Lady Jane I am sorry, am trying to keep on top of things X

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Quite abit of the children's story is fabricated, not alot, but there are portions that are, notice, a few things the children say that are clear lies

DC m says to G, how many plastic willies are there, he looks very genuine and answers, ''millions''......that is obviously a lie....

When it comes to baby skin shoes, he says, they take the skin cos its sticky, n stick it on the flip flops, do you guys really think that's how leather products are made?

Another lie, they werent lies, but they are child-like exaggerations, who does it? All the schools in Hampstead, I have friends in Hampstead I highly doubt do it.......and that leads to another possible exaggeration, do ALL the parents do it I doubt it......
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I think any rational person recognises that the children must have embellished a certain amount of their story; but that is absolutley no reason to ignore the core of their allegations.

Injustice Pauffley used the kids' embellishment as an excuse to declare the whole thing a concoction, and to denigrate the mother and AC, whereas she should have considered the core of the story and set up an investigatio to determine if these core items were fact or fiction. She didn't.

I am certain those kids were abused. Just because one party is guilty does not mean the other is innocent; it is quite likely imo that there is guilt of varying degrees on all sides of this story.
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Everyone knows my position on this already........I think what makes me different from the average person is, I'm only on here for this case, I've never been a conspiracy theorist, and I don't have the us vs them mind state so many of you seem to have, becasuse I grew up a poor child in a poor neighborhood(was severely abused beyond belief), and now am extremely wealthy and powerful, due to my hard work and dedication, and no the GMO cucumbers, or the bank, or the chemtrails didn't kill me......

So i take you guys stories with a grain of salt, im also clued up enough to know, not all police are nice guys and governments can be corrupt as fuck, I lived thelight iI lived the dark, iI lived the rich I lived the poor, I lived the hell I lived a better life, I've seen it all, and what I have come to realize is one thing, one thing has stayed consistent to me in all my life, and that is, the truth, is never black or white but allways grey
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I appreciate that truth is rarely black or white, and I agree. I wasn't insinuating anyone here was 'wrong'.. in fact, we could all be right, inasmuch as the abuse could be perpetrated from many directions.

To me, the most suspicion should be levelled at the persons named by the children, and the medical evidence used to instigate a proper investigation and perhaps criminal proceedings.

Anyone who does not want a proper investigation must need their head testing... why not?
I ask you, who would *not* want an investigation?
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I am getting an ENORMOUS amount of abusive post reports on this thread.

This thread is a second opportunity for people to discuss this topic in a civil manner. That is not happening and right now, I am trying to think of a damn good reason why I should not lock this thread.
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I've read most of the thread, and it's been quite civil in here and great discussions.

There was only one or a few trolls posting nonsense, which is being moderated properly by the OP. Are the trolls purposely sending reports to get this thread closed?

If so, and you close the thread, then the trolls won.
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If Lady Jane says that this is so then I don't question. AM you are coming across as very condacending and dare I say it feel you are better than others ...I don't know :( You are coming with good points but in here we should all be equal.

Lady Jane I am sorry, am trying to keep on top of things X
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No, I know more than you lot about this, and that's a fact, if you don't like that fact, then I can leave, and you can speculate amongst yourself, I never said I was better than anyone as an individual, and I wouldn't be here if I didn't appreciate you people, I sent you a very heartfelt thumbs up message, do I know more about this than you guys absolutely, does it make me better than you no, lol or else I wouldn't be on here talking, to like minded people, I consider equals.........
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If Lady Jane says that this is so then I don't question. AM you are coming across as very condacending and dare I say it feel you are better than others ...I don't know :( You are coming with good points but in here we should all be equal.

Lady Jane I am sorry, am trying to keep on top of things X
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No, I know more than you lot about this, and that's a fact, if you don't like that fact, then I can leave, and you can speculate amongst yourself, I never said I was better than anyone as an individual, and I wouldn't be here if I didn't appreciate you people, I sent you a very heartfelt thumbs up message, do I know more about this than you guys absolutely, does it make me better than you no, lol or else I wouldn't be on here talking, to like minded people, I consider equals.........
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No please stay, I just felt a bit like you were talking down, but it is difficult to discern on a forum, where we just read, cant hear the tone of voice or the manner in which it is said and I obviously took you the wrong way.
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If Lady Jane says that this is so then I don't question. AM you are coming across as very condacending and dare I say it feel you are better than others ...I don't know :( You are coming with good points but in here we should all be equal.

Lady Jane I am sorry, am trying to keep on top of things X
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Hampstead: Leaked Medical Reports End All Doubt About Sexual Abuse Claims

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JUDGE PAUFFLEY'S treasonous fraudulent predetermination drafted by Barnet Council has failed to identify the multiple rapists and sodomists and murderers responsible for the scars (found by several medical doctors during independent medical examinations) - which they allege occured during school times at the primary schools and churches in the UK

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It has long been alleged that the systematic abuse of children took place in the Kincora home at the hands of a paedophile ring thought to be linked to MI5.

It has also been claimed that MI5 blocked police investigations into the abuse, who reportedly used the information of child abuse to blackmail, manipulate and coerce members of the establishment who were committing the abuse.

Let's look at the evidence.



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The children make the extraordinary claim that all the staff at Christchurch School are doing sex to them several days a week and that the worst sex day is Wednesday. They also allege that abuse takes place on Saturdays.

We don’t know if this is true but in this video we are going to demonstrate that some of the Christ Church staff who the children allege have been abusing them have met up with each other in Hampstead on a Saturday.

We are also going to demonstrate strong Facebook links between alleged abusers on the teaching staff and also that alleged abusers have contact with alleged abusing parents. We are not suggesting that these facts prove that abuse has taken place – they do not. But they substantiate the children’s claims to a degree.


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OK I'm gonna leave this be

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AM please stay.
way2ward I had to remove that hun we cant have names etc on here Xx
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Behind the headlines when children die or are abused at the hands of relatives or outside professionals entrusted with their care, an army of public sector staff across Britain carries on the complex daily work of child protection.
Here we feature the voices of those directly concerned in this often thankless task - frontline practitioners in social services, schools, the health service, police, and a range of agencies who relate their experiences and propose reforms. 'Britain has no national children's day . . . does that say something about how we value children?'
Dr Deborah Hodes is consultant community paediatrician and designated doctor for child protection in the City and Hackney NHS Primary Care Trust, London
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Dr Deborah Hodes is consultant community paediatrician and designated doctor for child protection in the City and Hackney NHS Primary Care Trust, London
As a community paediatrician, I wear this named-doctor hat too, so GPs and other health colleagues, social workers and the police will refer clinical cases to me if they're concerned about possible maltreatment of a child. In the hospital trust, there's a colleague who'll see children coming in with fractures and so on. Often she'll discuss things with me because I'm simultaneously the designated doctor.
But in all these situations I am always part of the multi-agency team and together we each contribute a piece of the jigsaw which we piece together to find the best solution for the child.
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Dr Deborah Hodes Dr Deborah Hodes has been a Consultant Community Paediatrician since 1990, first in Hackney and then from 2003 in Camden working for the Camden Provider Services, The Royal free NHS Hospital Trust and also University College London Hospitals. She is an active member of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) and is Named Doctor in Child Protection and child protection advisor to UCLH. Deborah is clinical lead in community paediatrics in Camden and has developed the services for vulnerable children and those with a neurodisability. She is chair of the Camden Child death overview Panel (CDOP). She has vast clinical experience in all aspects of child abuse and neglect, and has developed a very active tertiary safeguarding clinic which includes the assessment of complex children with a special interest in child sexual abuse as well as providing professional and expert opinions.
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ALSO – Good interview here where Goslin points out many places where the Judge has contradicted herself.
(PSTD 27:30 minutes)
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Signs of Childhood Domestic Violence
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