Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,156 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 369,240
Pageviews Today: 480,141Threads Today: 153Posts Today: 1,764
04:11 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?

 
K-lis
Offer Upgrade

User ID: 70771995
United States
06/13/2016 06:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
Hello. I've read all kinds of stuff on google on the new name for multiple personality disorder which is called dissociative identity disorder. I could give you guys all a rundown on the stuff that characterizes this disorder. But I won't right this second, maybe in a little bit.

Yeah, it's connected to project monarch and that sort of thing because they were experimenting with how to deliberately make a person DID who wasn't originally DID.

I guess there are also people who just happen to have bad trauma and this is the end result, with no connection to mind control stuff.

I also have a theory systematic child abuse is a form of mind control all of its own totally unrelated to like government sanctioned mind control.

Sick, but there are families out there who do this as a tradition to ensure loyalty to the family.

I'm really interested in this disorder and knowing more about it maybe from people with firsthand experience who want to talk about what it's like to have it.

Anybody willing to share some experiences or thoughts on this disorder?

Last Edited by Caylus Ark on 06/13/2016 06:47 PM
aether

User ID: 72366424
Spain
06/13/2016 06:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
synthetic child abuse as in:
child abuse to order (ritualized)
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 70771995
United States
06/13/2016 06:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
synthetic child abuse as in:
child abuse to order (ritualized)
 Quoting: aether


We talked about this I remember
That it's an accepted practice to keep the trauma shame in the family
It was an interesting conversation, sad but made sense.

Last Edited by Caylus Ark on 06/23/2016 12:08 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 44827844
Australia
06/13/2016 06:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints.

These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 06:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
Why slapping and menacing child isnt' a crime and a mania ?
Methods of correction and discipline are by themslef
previewed as crime by the actual penal code and a pathological activity.
A medical certification is needed for acting in derogation to a general rule,
indicating wich disturb all children or those children have,
that must be corrected with these methods
Otherwise it would be a pathological vector of itself and other diseases,
perpetrated with artifact and pretextuous motives.


CASUS AD EXCLUDENDUM

Australians kill gays but children are not genetically gays .
Australians psychically infect children ( thru families) , with defined dynamics, replicable methods,
yet previewed as crime by the actual penal code...
then kill them, making a ritual sacrifice to a wicked gay pattern object daemon volcano.
With specific methods..active and passive forms.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30745158
United States
06/13/2016 06:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
I dated a girl with it. The "personalities" concocted lies to cover for lies which covered for other lies. An incredible web of deception that "they" all worked together to maintain. I didn't even realize it! It's a freaking long and dramatic story, almost like a crappy Lifetime or IFC movie. It went on for eight months and ended with me homeless and broke.

"they" moved on to the next guy. :/
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 70771995
United States
06/13/2016 07:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints.

These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844


The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma!

to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing
aether

User ID: 72366424
Spain
06/13/2016 07:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
synthetic child abuse as in:
child abuse to order (ritualized)
 Quoting: aether


We talked about this I remember
That it's an accepted practice to keep the trauma shame in the family
It was an interesting conversation, sad but made sense.
 Quoting: K-lis


yes
we will broaden that topic generaly when we get better organized over here shortly
as you know
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
they have 1 or more key information that they think is true while it is false..

or missing information

or things they think is false while is true.

3 kinds of error
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
they have 1 or more key information that they think is true while it is false..

or missing information

or things they think is false while is true.

3 kinds of error
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892



things they think is false while is true

have some analogy with - missing infotrmation"

they are ignorants thuse they ignore some important info for them and for ther health

there could be games and exercises for improving their skill
fs
User ID: 44827844
Australia
06/13/2016 07:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints.

These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844


The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma!

to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing
 Quoting: K-lis


hi

well,yes, imagination, is a type of dissociation. I used an analogy of a fountain, with the human psyche as the whole fountain, with its cascading waters shooting up and the dissipating into dropl;ets, then to be absorbed, with oxygen, back into the pool at the base. Similar with our recurrent thoughts, put em through the sluice and learn to discern the fact, from the fiction, the signal to noise.


Each human, can thus, titrate their own deficiencies, anxieties and concerns by simply allowing "stillness" and a state of "be" ing.


However, how we as humans are situated prior to any cosmic changes, I wonder and have concerns.

Concerns primarily in the disp[arity of psyche from the human perspective, the psyche in the lower astral perspective, and the psyche, from the holy perspective.

So...

I think, we are in for some stark awakenings, unless, we can do the groundwork of becoming a whole person, ourselves.

Not easy.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
i sometime evaluate a group of people that for some reason or another are involved in a unique situation...
as a unique subject...

maybe you can find some analogy with a single subject...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385771
United States
06/13/2016 07:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
 Quoting: K-lis


yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 58211736
Sweden
06/13/2016 07:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
What about Dissociative Identity Order ?

Who are they who name it 'Disorder'.

For a longer time they propagandized speed and flexibility and intelligence and now that they began to understand that they loose hold of what they held so dear (manipulative 'Power') they name the 'thing' they don't know much about 'Disorder' ??

They're cute .
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
you are not a child anymore
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
you are not a child anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892


you are someone else now
^MutarieL^

User ID: 70533942
United States
06/13/2016 07:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints.

These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844


The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma!

to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing
 Quoting: K-lis


[link to www.teosofico.com]
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 07:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
 Quoting: K-lis


yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385771


Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 07:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
What about Dissociative Identity Order ?

Who are they who name it 'Disorder'.

For a longer time they propagandized speed and flexibility and intelligence and now that they began to understand that they loose hold of what they held so dear (manipulative 'Power') they name the 'thing' they don't know much about 'Disorder' ??

They're cute .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58211736


Yeah, I guess I could see how in some situations it could be an advantage not a pathology. Certainly as a mechanism of coping with repeated trauma it makes sense. But in another respect entirely, it seems like it would be useful to have different 'people' for different roles. Like uhm....what's that called...harddrive partitions.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 07:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
1st

verify if and how they use voluntary thinking

and what they think about it.

2nd

verify if they are coprofagists for our safety

before proceeding
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 07:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
you are not a child anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892


I've always felt like there's a part of me that regresses pretty easily, people look at me and see a child...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 08:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
talk to yourself as if you are that one too !!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71919319
United States
06/13/2016 08:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
yeah - they are fakes. this girl that used to frequent a church group claimed to have it and would turn into a 9 year old when she got stressed out.

pastor called her a liar - she confessed the next day it was all a hoax. not just the DID - she confessed that her entire identity was a hoax.

that was the strangest experience...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71919319
United States
06/13/2016 08:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
 Quoting: K-lis


yes i am the master, the gate keeper.
What do you want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385771


Yeah, I want to know the way it works.
Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way.
 Quoting: K-lis


it's not real - they are trolling you IRL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 08:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
talk to yourself as if you are that one too !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892


i mean a moment you remember of your childhood..

something personal.. maybe a moment you were thinking with yourself..

and talk to him

he is your little brother

he needs you for anything !
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 08:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
yeah - they are fakes. this girl that used to frequent a church group claimed to have it and would turn into a 9 year old when she got stressed out.

pastor called her a liar - she confessed the next day it was all a hoax. not just the DID - she confessed that her entire identity was a hoax.

that was the strangest experience...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71919319


Well I'm sure some are fakes but I'm not talking about stuff as dramatic as "sybil" or anything like that. DID has been recorded for hundreds of years, way before sensationalism exaggerated it. They have also experimented with inducing it in people intentionally.

I think the renaming from MPD to DID was a good move because most people don't understand DID is not always like a "sybil" thing...sometimes it presents as a person who like, doesn't feel pain because they can dissociate out of it, or tells 100% truth that they didn't do something when the facts are they did do that thing, but they believe 100% that they didn't do it because they aren't aware of the part of their consciousness that did the behavior, they were 'sleeping' when it happened.

It would be really confusing, if you had something like that. I knew a guy who had it. He would wake up places not knowing how he got there and end up with objects that he didn't know how he acquired. I knew him well, he was a close friend. He tripped DMT and nearly lost his mind at one point but after he did he remembered all this fucked up abuse and stuff. Sort of classic textbook DID. Last I checked he went totally off the grid on some weird secret mission and left some totally strange files on my computer too.

He definitely had it, no dramatic 'meh' stupid fakery about his case.

But yeah sometimes it's all played up and it seems contrived....
I can see why psychologists are ambiguous.

Last Edited by Caylus Ark on 06/13/2016 08:11 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 08:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
psychologists are ambiguous

because they dont like their patients to make suicide..

if they had the truth and tell it..

they risk the patient to make sucide

depressive phase expected and reequested..

this in the case..there was an....

anything to understand...

how he was born perfectly sane and is now where he is
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 08:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
psychologists are ambiguous

because they dont like their patients to make suicide..

if they had the truth and tell it..

they risk the patient to make sucide

depressive phase expected and reequested..

this in the case..there was an....

anything to understand...

how he was born perfectly sane and is now where he is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892


Sure I mean, if they have the truth...but how many really have the truth? In my curriculum we were basically taught that DID is not worth bothering about...but I did my own research and thinking...I found out that there are certain groups very interested in bothering with it...and they are fine with allowing the majority of academic psychology to believe its not real...that's what worries me...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72386214
United Arab Emirates
06/13/2016 08:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
I'm no expert, but did you ever see the final episode of MASH?

(titled: Goodbye Farewell and Amen).

A fantastic episode which began with hawkeye in the nut house...over the course of the episode you found out why he ended up there & why he blocked that memory out of his brain (which was causing all his current problems).

It probably wont explain "Dissociative Identity Disorder" but it could be a first step to Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 72385892
Italy
06/13/2016 08:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
lets make an exercise

if some people with some device can produce that..


should give to people exercises to do
for reinforcing against that...
K-lis  (OP)

User ID: 23740678
United States
06/13/2016 08:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Any experts on Dissociative Identity Disorder around here?
I'm no expert, but did you ever see the final episode of MASH?

(titled: Goodbye Farewell and Amen).

A fantastic episode which began with hawkeye in the nut house...over the course of the episode you found out why he ended up there & why he blocked that memory out of his brain (which was causing all his current problems).

It probably wont explain "Dissociative Identity Disorder" but it could be a first step to Dissociative Identity Disorder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72386214


I didn't see it. Maybe I'll read a synopsis or something .
That does make me think of that movie "memento" (which was awesome) but that was a totally different thing because he had short term memory loss not DID.

Still some similarities though. Like what causes memories to get blacked out that way?

The younger you are and the more frequently a traumatic event occurs the more likely it is you'll block it out. Things that only happen one time, and the older you get, the more likely you are to react with hypernesia rather then amnesia to the trauma.

But if you are in an altered state when something happens to you...it becomes what they call a 'state dependent' memory...and you tend to forget it entirely until you are back in that same state of consciousness again....





GLP