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K-lis (OP) User ID: 70771995 United States 06/13/2016 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We talked about this I remember That it's an accepted practice to keep the trauma shame in the family It was an interesting conversation, sad but made sense. Last Edited by Caylus Ark on 06/23/2016 12:08 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44827844 Australia 06/13/2016 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints. These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72385892 Italy 06/13/2016 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why slapping and menacing child isnt' a crime and a mania ? Methods of correction and discipline are by themslef previewed as crime by the actual penal code and a pathological activity. A medical certification is needed for acting in derogation to a general rule, indicating wich disturb all children or those children have, that must be corrected with these methods Otherwise it would be a pathological vector of itself and other diseases, perpetrated with artifact and pretextuous motives. CASUS AD EXCLUDENDUM Australians kill gays but children are not genetically gays . Australians psychically infect children ( thru families) , with defined dynamics, replicable methods, yet previewed as crime by the actual penal code... then kill them, making a ritual sacrifice to a wicked gay pattern object daemon volcano. With specific methods..active and passive forms. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30745158 United States 06/13/2016 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "they" moved on to the next guy. :/ |
K-lis (OP) User ID: 70771995 United States 06/13/2016 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844 These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person. The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma! to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72385892 Italy 06/13/2016 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they have 1 or more key information that they think is true while it is false.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892 or missing information or things they think is false while is true. 3 kinds of error things they think is false while is true have some analogy with - missing infotrmation" they are ignorants thuse they ignore some important info for them and for ther health there could be games and exercises for improving their skill |
fs User ID: 44827844 Australia 06/13/2016 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844 These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person. The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma! to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing well,yes, imagination, is a type of dissociation. I used an analogy of a fountain, with the human psyche as the whole fountain, with its cascading waters shooting up and the dissipating into dropl;ets, then to be absorbed, with oxygen, back into the pool at the base. Similar with our recurrent thoughts, put em through the sluice and learn to discern the fact, from the fiction, the signal to noise. Each human, can thus, titrate their own deficiencies, anxieties and concerns by simply allowing "stillness" and a state of "be" ing. However, how we as humans are situated prior to any cosmic changes, I wonder and have concerns. Concerns primarily in the disp[arity of psyche from the human perspective, the psyche in the lower astral perspective, and the psyche, from the holy perspective. So... I think, we are in for some stark awakenings, unless, we can do the groundwork of becoming a whole person, ourselves. Not easy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58211736 Sweden 06/13/2016 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about Dissociative Identity Order ? Who are they who name it 'Disorder'. For a longer time they propagandized speed and flexibility and intelligence and now that they began to understand that they loose hold of what they held so dear (manipulative 'Power') they name the 'thing' they don't know much about 'Disorder' ?? They're cute . |
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^MutarieL^ User ID: 70533942 United States 06/13/2016 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, thing is, the mind is able to recover any dissociative states. The brain is plastic; trauma causes "erosion" and neurological imprints. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44827844 These imprints can be resolved by the conscious use of chi, an appreciation of the wah, and the 3 dimensional factorization of each dissociative state to anneal again, a whole person. The mind is able to recover and there's nothing pathological about ordinary dissociation which we all experience to some extent. But some people are constantly dissociating and they are half existent in a 'half-here-half-there' state by default, daydreams are like part of reality, they have inner voices with various personas , often high psi ability - incidently which tends to be augmented by trauma! to some, maybe channeling or mediumship is actual really disssociation - not that one method of classification is more correct than another (the psychological over the mystical) just that they both refer to the same thing [link to www.teosofico.com] |
K-lis (OP) User ID: 23740678 United States 06/13/2016 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I want to know the way it works. Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way. |
K-lis (OP) User ID: 23740678 United States 06/13/2016 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about Dissociative Identity Order ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58211736 Who are they who name it 'Disorder'. For a longer time they propagandized speed and flexibility and intelligence and now that they began to understand that they loose hold of what they held so dear (manipulative 'Power') they name the 'thing' they don't know much about 'Disorder' ?? They're cute . Yeah, I guess I could see how in some situations it could be an advantage not a pathology. Certainly as a mechanism of coping with repeated trauma it makes sense. But in another respect entirely, it seems like it would be useful to have different 'people' for different roles. Like uhm....what's that called...harddrive partitions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71919319 United States 06/13/2016 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah - they are fakes. this girl that used to frequent a church group claimed to have it and would turn into a 9 year old when she got stressed out. pastor called her a liar - she confessed the next day it was all a hoax. not just the DID - she confessed that her entire identity was a hoax. that was the strangest experience... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71919319 United States 06/13/2016 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I want to know the way it works. Multiple persons, co-occurring, inner voices, induced by trauma, prone to fantasy, gaps in memory....But strange. Many psychologists pretend it doesn't exist at all. Just easier that way. it's not real - they are trolling you IRL |
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K-lis (OP) User ID: 23740678 United States 06/13/2016 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah - they are fakes. this girl that used to frequent a church group claimed to have it and would turn into a 9 year old when she got stressed out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71919319 pastor called her a liar - she confessed the next day it was all a hoax. not just the DID - she confessed that her entire identity was a hoax. that was the strangest experience... Well I'm sure some are fakes but I'm not talking about stuff as dramatic as "sybil" or anything like that. DID has been recorded for hundreds of years, way before sensationalism exaggerated it. They have also experimented with inducing it in people intentionally. I think the renaming from MPD to DID was a good move because most people don't understand DID is not always like a "sybil" thing...sometimes it presents as a person who like, doesn't feel pain because they can dissociate out of it, or tells 100% truth that they didn't do something when the facts are they did do that thing, but they believe 100% that they didn't do it because they aren't aware of the part of their consciousness that did the behavior, they were 'sleeping' when it happened. It would be really confusing, if you had something like that. I knew a guy who had it. He would wake up places not knowing how he got there and end up with objects that he didn't know how he acquired. I knew him well, he was a close friend. He tripped DMT and nearly lost his mind at one point but after he did he remembered all this fucked up abuse and stuff. Sort of classic textbook DID. Last I checked he went totally off the grid on some weird secret mission and left some totally strange files on my computer too. He definitely had it, no dramatic 'meh' stupid fakery about his case. But yeah sometimes it's all played up and it seems contrived.... I can see why psychologists are ambiguous. Last Edited by Caylus Ark on 06/13/2016 08:11 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72385892 Italy 06/13/2016 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | psychologists are ambiguous because they dont like their patients to make suicide.. if they had the truth and tell it.. they risk the patient to make sucide depressive phase expected and reequested.. this in the case..there was an.... anything to understand... how he was born perfectly sane and is now where he is |
K-lis (OP) User ID: 23740678 United States 06/13/2016 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | psychologists are ambiguous Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72385892 because they dont like their patients to make suicide.. if they had the truth and tell it.. they risk the patient to make sucide depressive phase expected and reequested.. this in the case..there was an.... anything to understand... how he was born perfectly sane and is now where he is Sure I mean, if they have the truth...but how many really have the truth? In my curriculum we were basically taught that DID is not worth bothering about...but I did my own research and thinking...I found out that there are certain groups very interested in bothering with it...and they are fine with allowing the majority of academic psychology to believe its not real...that's what worries me... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72386214 United Arab Emirates 06/13/2016 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm no expert, but did you ever see the final episode of MASH? (titled: Goodbye Farewell and Amen). A fantastic episode which began with hawkeye in the nut house...over the course of the episode you found out why he ended up there & why he blocked that memory out of his brain (which was causing all his current problems). It probably wont explain "Dissociative Identity Disorder" but it could be a first step to Dissociative Identity Disorder. |
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K-lis (OP) User ID: 23740678 United States 06/13/2016 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm no expert, but did you ever see the final episode of MASH? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72386214 (titled: Goodbye Farewell and Amen). A fantastic episode which began with hawkeye in the nut house...over the course of the episode you found out why he ended up there & why he blocked that memory out of his brain (which was causing all his current problems). It probably wont explain "Dissociative Identity Disorder" but it could be a first step to Dissociative Identity Disorder. I didn't see it. Maybe I'll read a synopsis or something . That does make me think of that movie "memento" (which was awesome) but that was a totally different thing because he had short term memory loss not DID. Still some similarities though. Like what causes memories to get blacked out that way? The younger you are and the more frequently a traumatic event occurs the more likely it is you'll block it out. Things that only happen one time, and the older you get, the more likely you are to react with hypernesia rather then amnesia to the trauma. But if you are in an altered state when something happens to you...it becomes what they call a 'state dependent' memory...and you tend to forget it entirely until you are back in that same state of consciousness again.... |