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Agenda 21 hello. Fires and relocation.
Agenda 21 duh.
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Considering all the fires they had this past summer, and the ones going on right now, is there any place in Cali that isn't burnt to a crisp? It seems like every year they have tremendous fires, so how is it that there is anything left to burn the NEXT year?
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100%..Deborah Tavares talked about this three years ago. Look at the timing after their fake shooting. Nobody's talkin about that now...This is Agenda 21 without a doubt!!!
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I live in Las Vegas. I wonder what they will do here? Probably dissappear lake mead.
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I live in Las Vegas. I wonder what they will do here? Probably dissappear lake mead.
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Yea they can't burn you guys out so easy..If they dry up lake mead though everyone would have to leave for sure.
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Considering all the fires they had this past summer, and the ones going on right now, is there any place in Cali that isn't burnt to a crisp? It seems like every year they have tremendous fires, so how is it that there is anything left to burn the NEXT year?
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The brush grows back.

Where are there NOT wildfires? In the big cities where the Agenda 21 demons want stack and pack living with everything outside of those areas severely restricted or off limits.

OP is right.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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100%..Deborah Tavares talked about this three years ago. Look at the timing after their fake shooting. Nobody's talkin about that now...This is Agenda 21 without a doubt!!!
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Is she the lady who shot the videos of community meetings where they were trying push their new plans? There was a great one from the bay area which showed the conspirators using a type of deflect and shut down debate tactic. There's a name for it but I can't recall what it is. Those vids revealed one of the plans was not allow ANY single family housing.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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100%..Deborah Tavares talked about this three years ago. Look at the timing after their fake shooting. Nobody's talkin about that now...This is Agenda 21 without a doubt!!!
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Is she the lady who shot the videos of community meetings where they were trying push their new plans? There was a great one from the bay area which showed the conspirators using a type of deflect and shut down debate tactic. There's a name for it but I can't recall what it is. Those vids revealed one of the plans was not allow ANY single family housing.
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Yes exactly..and it's called "Delphi" technique...they just started these practices at our larger meetings in our tiny community. Deborah has a video called "The plan to burn up Northern California"...it's still on her page...worth the listen again for sure.
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100%..Deborah Tavares talked about this three years ago. Look at the timing after their fake shooting. Nobody's talkin about that now...This is Agenda 21 without a doubt!!!
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Is she the lady who shot the videos of community meetings where they were trying push their new plans? There was a great one from the bay area which showed the conspirators using a type of deflect and shut down debate tactic. There's a name for it but I can't recall what it is. Those vids revealed one of the plans was not allow ANY single family housing.
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Yes exactly..and it's called "Delphi" technique...they just started these practices at our larger meetings in our tiny community. Deborah has a video called "The plan to burn up Northern California"...it's still on her page...worth the listen again for sure.
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Yeah, that's it! It was infuriating to witness. I would have lost my shit at those meetings.

Where is that you live that they're pulling this shit right now?
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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its happening in real time. I remember reading about agenda 21 about 10 yrs ago
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Agenda 21 duh.
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I wonder if this is an excuse to transfer all celebrities elsewhere?
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check out www.america2050.org for the real plans of the 11 megaregions
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I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
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Agenda 21 duh.
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I don't buy into the laser beam bullshit or whatever, but I do believe environmentalism has been funded by globalists to drive people from rural areas.
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I wonder if this is an excuse to transfer all celebrities e

Paralleles to Hitlers Germany. The talented and rich are coddled. Poor and disabled left behind. Chosen going home because they feel safer in the Middle East. Huh?????
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laser beam bullshit or whatever, but I do believe environmentalism has been funded by globalists to drive people fr

No lightning in the whole state. It takes 70 mph plus to down most power lines. Arson? In that many places that far apart.??
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According to one Muslim site they planned on starting fires.
Are they the force behind Agendas 21 or maybe just agreeing with the idea?
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Its basically a billionaire thing. But they are all of one Satanic spirit.

They are the only ones that are qualified to administer resources. In their minds of course.

The golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
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I don’t really buy into the whole terrorist thing. The Bible says the government is the beast.
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Agenda 21 duh.
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I don't buy into the laser beam bullshit or whatever, but I do believe environmentalism has been funded by globalists to drive people from rural areas.
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This. And you don't need any fancy laser beams to start a fire in California. Any incendiary device into dry brush, when windy, and it's on.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I live in San Diego.
No fires here (currently).
Im not entirely convinced DEW's are the culprit. Wild Fires around these parts are Nothing new.
Shit is suspicious as fuck though and really does fall right in line with how they want Agenda 21 to play out.
Then again,
I Guess they have to implent that plan sooner or later. And what better way to covertly force people to get up and leave their house behind.
Burn that shit to the ground.
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Fuck those elitist cocksuckers.
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I live in San Diego.
No fires here (currently).
Im not entirely convinced DEW's are the culprit. Wild Fires around these parts are Nothing new.
Shit is suspicious as fuck though and really does fall right in line with how they want Agenda 21 to play out.
Then again,
I Guess they have to implent that plan sooner or later. And what better way to covertly force people to get up and leave their house behind.
Burn that shit to the ground.
Smh...
Fuck those elitist cocksuckers.
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Here's hoping you don't see any fires down there any time soon.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I live in San Diego.
No fires here (currently).
Im not entirely convinced DEW's are the culprit. Wild Fires around these parts are Nothing new.
Shit is suspicious as fuck though and really does fall right in line with how they want Agenda 21 to play out.
Then again,
I Guess they have to implent that plan sooner or later. And what better way to covertly force people to get up and leave their house behind.
Burn that shit to the ground.
Smh...
Fuck those elitist cocksuckers.
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Here's hoping you don't see any fires down there any time soon.
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Cheers brother.cheers
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I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
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So, many reacting to Trump's callous tweet by saying it's federal land "management" that is the problem, not California, are correct?

I don't doubt that about the Greens infiltrating the Forest Service. Maybe not the "Green Party", per se, but that communist/pagan/nature worship/people hating mindset. They are Malthusians. Georgia Guidestones, if you will.

What makes you say that about the spotted owl? Do you have evidence or is it more of a hunch? I believe the same types planted cougars east of the Mississippi, in places where they had long been rooted out - to the extreme benefit of humans. Suddenly, mountain lions started appearing in places where there never had been any in anyone's living memory. Very fishy. All it takes is ONE rich person, like a Ted Turner, to make that happen.

A year or two ago I got an email from the Sierra Club. I've never been a member, don't like them and have no idea how I made their list. I opened it and you know what it was about, in the headline? POPULATION CONTROL.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
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So, many reacting to Trump's callous tweet by saying it's federal land "management" that is the problem, not California, are correct?

I don't doubt that about the Greens infiltrating the Forest Service. Maybe not the "Green Party", per se, but that communist/pagan/nature worship/people hating mindset. They are Malthusians. Georgia Guidestones, if you will.

What makes you say that about the spotted owl? Do you have evidence or is it more of a hunch? I believe the same types planted cougars east of the Mississippi, in places where they had long been rooted out - to the extreme benefit of humans. Suddenly, mountain lions started appearing in places where there never had been any in anyone's living memory. Very fishy. All it takes is ONE rich person, like a Ted Turner, to make that happen.

A year or two ago I got an email from the Sierra Club. I've never been a member, don't like them and have no idea how I made their list. I opened it and you know what it was about, in the headline? POPULATION CONTROL.
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When I say greens, you understood that I was referring to the Green Religion not the party.

The bit about the owls was told to me by a senior guy in the logging industry. That was in 1992. The loggers knew that people were planting owls in the forest to prevent planned logging.

My major point is that the lousy forest management is the fault of the bureaucrats in charge.

If I was the Prez, I would fire the entire Forest Service and hire a contractor company to provide the same services. If we just started cutting firebreaks, opening old roads, grazing, and logging, we could cut the severity of the fires by 90%.

Hell, it would turn a profit for the country while providing jobs!
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the elite want to bug out but yoked by neverending mortgages.now they all go in together,plan it out,then cash out on insurance.watch where they all move.i bet they move as a pack.
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I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
 Quoting: darth


So, many reacting to Trump's callous tweet by saying it's federal land "management" that is the problem, not California, are correct?

I don't doubt that about the Greens infiltrating the Forest Service. Maybe not the "Green Party", per se, but that communist/pagan/nature worship/people hating mindset. They are Malthusians. Georgia Guidestones, if you will.

What makes you say that about the spotted owl? Do you have evidence or is it more of a hunch? I believe the same types planted cougars east of the Mississippi, in places where they had long been rooted out - to the extreme benefit of humans. Suddenly, mountain lions started appearing in places where there never had been any in anyone's living memory. Very fishy. All it takes is ONE rich person, like a Ted Turner, to make that happen.

A year or two ago I got an email from the Sierra Club. I've never been a member, don't like them and have no idea how I made their list. I opened it and you know what it was about, in the headline? POPULATION CONTROL.
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When I say greens, you understood that I was referring to the Green Religion not the party.

The bit about the owls was told to me by a senior guy in the logging industry. That was in 1992. The loggers knew that people were planting owls in the forest to prevent planned logging.

My major point is that the lousy forest management is the fault of the bureaucrats in charge.

If I was the Prez, I would fire the entire Forest Service and hire a contractor company to provide the same services. If we just started cutting firebreaks, opening old roads, grazing, and logging, we could cut the severity of the fires by 90%.

Hell, it would turn a profit for the country while providing jobs!
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Oh, "green religion". Okay. The pagan commie Malthusians. The "party" is just the political arm of the same mindset, even if not directly related. It's a death cult and the young people that get drawn in don't realize it.

I'm skeptical about the owls. I don't know how anyone could plant birds since they can fly back to where they came from.

That's interesting how old photos showed grassland with a few trees where forests now stand. I'd love to see some side by side comparisons.

Are you familiar with that Deborah Tavares lady?
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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I don’t really buy into the whole terrorist thing. The Bible says the government is the beast.
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2030 Vision Plan.
Capitol of Asia, Africa and EU is Mecca.
US will have it's own Islamic Capitol but still face Mecca to pray.

So yes, the Islamic government (territory larger than Russia) is the beast.

perspective.
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When I say greens, you understood that I was referring to the Green Religion not the party.

The bit about the owls was told to me by a senior guy in the logging industry. That was in 1992. The loggers knew that people were planting owls in the forest to prevent planned logging.

My major point is that the lousy forest management is the fault of the bureaucrats in charge.

If I was the Prez, I would fire the entire Forest Service and hire a contractor company to provide the same services. If we just started cutting firebreaks, opening old roads, grazing, and logging, we could cut the severity of the fires by 90%.

Hell, it would turn a profit for the country while providing jobs!
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yep. Trump just mentioned that National Parks funding is being squandered with poor management.

Solution is putting talented management in place and not listening to special interest groups who aren't qualified.
This is like The Apprentice but in real life.

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Re: Agenda 21 hello. Fires and relocation.
I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
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So, many reacting to Trump's callous tweet by saying it's federal land "management" that is the problem, not California, are correct?

I don't doubt that about the Greens infiltrating the Forest Service. Maybe not the "Green Party", per se, but that communist/pagan/nature worship/people hating mindset. They are Malthusians. Georgia Guidestones, if you will.

What makes you say that about the spotted owl? Do you have evidence or is it more of a hunch? I believe the same types planted cougars east of the Mississippi, in places where they had long been rooted out - to the extreme benefit of humans. Suddenly, mountain lions started appearing in places where there never had been any in anyone's living memory. Very fishy. All it takes is ONE rich person, like a Ted Turner, to make that happen.

A year or two ago I got an email from the Sierra Club. I've never been a member, don't like them and have no idea how I made their list. I opened it and you know what it was about, in the headline? POPULATION CONTROL.
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When I say greens, you understood that I was referring to the Green Religion not the party.

The bit about the owls was told to me by a senior guy in the logging industry. That was in 1992. The loggers knew that people were planting owls in the forest to prevent planned logging.

My major point is that the lousy forest management is the fault of the bureaucrats in charge.

If I was the Prez, I would fire the entire Forest Service and hire a contractor company to provide the same services. If we just started cutting firebreaks, opening old roads, grazing, and logging, we could cut the severity of the fires by 90%.

Hell, it would turn a profit for the country while providing jobs!
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Oh, "green religion". Okay. The pagan commie Malthusians. The "party" is just the political arm of the same mindset, even if not directly related. It's a death cult and the young people that get drawn in don't realize it.

I'm skeptical about the owls. I don't know how anyone could plant birds since they can fly back to where they came from.

That's interesting how old photos showed grassland with a few trees where forests now stand. I'd love to see some side by side comparisons.

Are you familiar with that Deborah Tavares lady?
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The logging exec I met in 1992 explained that the greens had a secret breeding facility for spotted owls.

When a section of forest came up for logging, they would release an owl or two in that area and then "observe" that the birds were there.

If the owls were within a certain distance, the logging would be canceled.

I saw the old photos vs. new photos of the Sierras at a Ranger Station when I was backpacking. I'll bet you can find similar examples with a web search. The Sierras naturally burned off every few years before the modern practice of putting out forest fires.

Remember, the original idea behind putting out forest fires was to have more trees for LOGGING. Timber used to be a major industry in those mountains.

BTW, as a hunter, having the forests cover the mountains is BAD. There are few forbs and grasses below the trees for the deer to eat. When the trees start dying , there are lots of bugs, grubs, and mushrooms for the bears. Current trend is fewer deer and more bears.

I have seen the Tavares video. Yes, there is a widespread green religion that supports Agenda 21.

If anyone is really interested, just join the Sierra Club or some environmental group and LISTEN while keeping your mouth shut. They will tell you exactly what they plan to do!
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Re: Agenda 21 hello. Fires and relocation.
I have backpacked from one end of California to the other. Do you know what I saw 30 years ago?

Forest Service blocking roads with boulders and letting the trees and brush close them permanently. No access for fire trucks. The Forest Service was infiltrated and taken over by the Greens.

No logging or very little on private land. Lots of restrictions. Therefore, a build up of FUEL for fires.

The Greens secretly bred Spotted Owls and put them in nests on forest that was scheduled for logging to prevent such industry.

Old trees dying from insect attacks, i.e., dry standing trees.

No grazing. In the old days, for example in the LA Basin, they ran huge herds of goats in the Winters to eat the overgrowth of brush. Put enough goats in one area and they will strip the brush to the ground.

No firebreaks in the forests.

This is all the fault of the GREENS. Their policies are idiotic. People DIE because of those policies.

Do the Greens want to remove human habitations and private land from the areas outside cities? Hell, YES.

Note that California ALWAYS had fires before the European settlers came. Old photos of the Sierras show grassland with a few fire-resistant trees. Now, photos of the same areas show solid forest with no grassland.

The Green religion is deadly to the forest, animals, and humans.
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The so called pale horse of the Bible is chloros in Greek - green horse.
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