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Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Last Edited by Pacifica on 01/26/2019 12:18 PM Pacifica |
Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Elliot Abrams , US. “This is not about foreign intervention in Venezuela, it is not an attempt to impose a result on the Venezuelan people. Democracy never needs to be imposed. It is tyranny that has to be imposed. This discussion in the council is about the right of the Venezuelan people to direct their own internal affairs and choose the future of their own country democratically. Thank you” Abrams started by saying he hadn't planned to speak today, and imo, it showed, and he looked uncomfortable. Pacifica |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 01/26/2019 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 It would have been great if Communism stayed on the Asian continent. Fine, stay there. divided by seas. Quoting: MissCleo With communism moving into South America that pulls the US into continental war. All those fleeing South America will flock to North America, logically. Thus the Wall. East and West divided by oceans. Would have been Perfect. It sells a war too, who wants refugees pouring across the US border, and justifies the wall in the eyes of some. the U.S. is already half Bolshevik Commies. |
{/Mutariel\} User ID: 76793558 United States 01/26/2019 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Bolivia pays lip service to the UNSC president before backing Venezuela. Paraguay opposing such support calling for new elections on Venezuela. Suriname diplomatically recognizes Maduro's government. GLP user Strongman Shelford president now speaks denouncing Maduro's presidency it appears the force vaccinations may have influenced the Argentinian president's words. |
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{/Mutariel\} User ID: 76793558 United States 01/26/2019 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. Uruguay states no need for a UNSC emergency meeting to deal with this issue, urges dialog, welcomes migrants, and rejects armed intervention. Last Edited by {/Mutariel\} on 01/26/2019 01:12 PM |
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Stand Sure User ID: 77291436 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. Last Edited by Pacifica on 01/26/2019 01:24 PM Pacifica |
{/Mutariel\} User ID: 76793558 United States 01/26/2019 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Dominica wants Prudence to guide the fellow nations. El Salvador calls for dialogue and a peaceful solution. Honduras rejects Nicolas Maduros legitimacy and recognized Juan Guaido, showing support for the Lima Group. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Antigua and Barbuda envisions a peaceful solution while rejecting intervention. Panama rejects violence and repression and expresses support for Guaido. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76496341 United States 01/26/2019 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. looks like the same game, US nd Russia, people of V. are losing. |
NewGeneration2019 User ID: 77292671 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. I expect the US will make a demand at the UN for some sort of (sham) election to take place. |
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Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. I expect the US will make a demand at the UN for some sort of (sham) election to take place. Spain, Germany, France and the UK have done that. They warned Maduro that he must call elections within eight days - or they'll officially recognise the opposition. Pacifica |
Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 ... Quoting: Stand Sure It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. I expect the US will make a demand at the UN for some sort of (sham) election to take place. Spain, Germany, France and the UK have done that. They warned Maduro that he must call elections within eight days - or they'll officially recognise the opposition. In response to that ultimatum. the Venezuelan Foreign minister at the UNSC earlier said, "Jog on!" Last Edited by Pacifica on 01/26/2019 01:51 PM Pacifica |
{/Mutariel\} User ID: 76793558 United States 01/26/2019 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Cuba request the floor to state Pompeo is a liar and a fake news monger!!! Venezuelas Arreaza follows with it's own request to speak, claims Colombians and a Peruvian from Miami plotted a failed attempt against Maduro, claims to support Colombia in the only armed conflict in Latin America, tells European countries that gave Venezuela an 8 day ultimatum to take that time to think about their actions. Colombia to defend it's dignity and responds against Arreaza claims, oh boy. and the Russians call for the floor to state that the majority of countries want non intervention, oh it appears Nebenzya is a bit paranoid about the number 8, calls it a "formula" ask "Why 8!? Why not 7?" and like that the meeting is adjourn that concludes todays UNSC emergency meeting,Till the next time. Last Edited by {/Mutariel\} on 01/26/2019 01:59 PM |
Stand Sure User ID: 77291436 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. It's like a question of who blinks first, Maduro isn't going to give away his position, so now its down to Guaido will he force the situation and encourage protests where the crowd could potentially be fired upon (civil war) or will he carry on barking? Maduro had the advantage, it's down to the opposition to take it to civil war or not. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
NewGeneration2019 User ID: 77292671 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Pompeo pronounces the name of Venezuela 'interim President' as Quoting: Pacifica "Gweedo" Gweedo - typically from new jersey, an italian who commonly uses way too much hair gel and has many homosexual tendancies, even though they pronounce themselves straight. commonly found in clubs and bars surrounded by gross easy chicks (urban slang) Secretary of State Mike Pompeo calling the figure Washington is attempting to install as Venezuelan President "Juan *Guido*" - as in the racist term for Italians. America's top diplomat didn't even bother to learn how to pronounce his puppet's name. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
NewGeneration2019 User ID: 77292671 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 In a fascinating interview with the @Guardian five years ago, #Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro explained US plans to systematically impoverish and destabilize his country. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Venezuela protests are sign that US wants our oil, says Nicolás Maduro In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, Venezuela's president claims the Obama administration is fomenting unrest with the aim of provoking a Ukraine-style 'slow-motion' coup [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 01/26/2019 03:23 PM |
Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 Mexico takes a ninja selfie before rejecting intervention. Quoting: {/Mutariel\} Ecuador in support of Guaido and peaceful transition. Barbados gives statement prepared in the name of a number of Caribbean countries denouncing intervention and instability calling all actors internal and external to refrain from further action that might exacerbate the current explosive situation. Chile recognizes and supports Juan Guaido. Brazil to support a democratic transition and rebirth of Venezuela. It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. It's like a question of who blinks first, Maduro isn't going to give away his position, so now its down to Guaido will he force the situation and encourage protests where the crowd could potentially be fired upon (civil war) or will he carry on barking? Maduro had the advantage, it's down to the opposition to take it to civil war or not. Yeah, who'll blink . . . . Last Edited by Pacifica on 01/26/2019 02:38 PM Pacifica |
Stand Sure User ID: 77291436 United Kingdom 01/26/2019 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 ... Quoting: Stand Sure It's all still at an impasse because there is to be no elections as far as I'm aware and the opposition isn't willing to come to the table. it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. It's like a question of who blinks first, Maduro isn't going to give away his position, so now its down to Guaido will he force the situation and encourage protests where the crowd could potentially be fired upon (civil war) or will he carry on barking? Maduro had the advantage, it's down to the opposition to take it to civil war or not. Yeah, who'll blink . . . . Some good old fashioned cold war merica CIA proxy warring. Teach a child how to think and not what to think _____________________________________ There’s no greater threat to the Palestinians than Hamas itself |
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Pacifica User ID: 77180469 New Zealand 01/26/2019 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 ... Quoting: Pacifica it seems like US/Guaido won't be interested in talking, although both Maduro and the Venezuelan Rep at the UN today said they are open to talking. Seems like US/Guaido will only be happy with Maduro standing down or being overthrown by some means (maybe not military at this stage, but by other means). But Maduro (together with his military) sounds like he wont be standing down. What do you think? . . impasse, as you say. It's like a question of who blinks first, Maduro isn't going to give away his position, so now its down to Guaido will he force the situation and encourage protests where the crowd could potentially be fired upon (civil war) or will he carry on barking? Maduro had the advantage, it's down to the opposition to take it to civil war or not. Yeah, who'll blink . . . . Some good old fashioned cold war merica CIA proxy warring. Cold war . . . that's mentioned in the description of Eliott Abrams in this article: [link to www.coha.org] "Elliott Abrams is an unprincipled Cold War hardliner " I presume you heard the news of his appointment today? Last Edited by Pacifica on 01/26/2019 02:51 PM Pacifica |
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Snuffielover User ID: 77276415 Russia 01/26/2019 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: VENEZUELA:Outages:8 /BOMBSHELL:P260/ IRAN:"ALL OPTIONS" IF US P357/TANKERS MEETING NAVY ESCORT AMID US "IMMINENT THREAT" VID P359 I'm following this development with a bit of a worry. Thinking here that Mister Putin wants to look like a strong man and Syria seems to be forgotten by now. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |