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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72310812 United States 05/13/2019 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked This from 5 May, before the latest tariff announcement of retaliatory tariffs from China. Thread: BAD NEWS FOR FARMERS: Soybeans, corn and wheat hit seven-month low after Trump tweets tariff threat against China |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77192746 United States 05/13/2019 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked These trade deficits took decades of piss poor, weak policies that Trump is boldly tackling (because he knows we were headed for economic collapse otherwise). Bold ingenious gambles, no other "leader" would have had the guts. |
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Deplorable Pussy Grabber User ID: 42735961 United States 05/13/2019 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked President Donald Trump is seeking an additional $15 billion in U.S. subsidies in an effort to protect farmers from the devastating impact of his trade war with China. That’s on top of $12 billion already earmarked for the farmers to help them weather the fallout. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72310812 That would be an additional bill for U.S. taxpayers already shouldering the cost of increased tariffs in the form of higher costs for products and parts from China. Trump revealed the subsidy figure in a tweet Friday. He suggested the government use the funds to buy agricultural products to ship to other nations for humanitarian aid, though setting up such a system would be extremely complicated. In his most recent budget proposal. The president appeared to dismiss the impact of the cost as he falsely claimed — again — that “massive” tariff payments are being paid by China “directly” to the U.S. Treasury, which would presumably be used to cover the cost of the subsidy. There is “absolutely no need to rush” to negotiate a deal with China, he tweeted. In fact, the tariffs are paid by U.S. importers, who pass on the extra costs to the American consumer in the form of higher prices for products, a fact White House economic adviser Larry Kudlowadmitted Sunday. Economists have estimated that the trade war is costing the U.S. more than $3 billion a month. [link to www.aol.com (secure)] And what about the floods? Guess that had no impact right? " Sonny Liston is nothing. The man can't talk. The man can't fight. The man needs to take talking lessons. The man needs to take fighting lessons. And since he's fighting me, he needs falling lessons." Muhammad Ali... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69651378 United States 05/13/2019 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked Trump is calling for the U.S. government to purchase billions of dollars' worth of products produced by American farmer. This is centralized State planning, aka socialism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69651378 United States 05/13/2019 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked so what? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77640431 the amount of money the tariffs inject into the economy makes 30 billion chump change. Federal revenue from custom duties ran at a $75 billion annual pace in the first quarter of 2019, according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis. That's lpabout 3% of total Federal government revenue. And we are paying those import tariffs, just like a new tax. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640431 France 05/13/2019 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked And who is paying those import tariffs? You and I are, that's who. it's about having real manufacturing jobs us mills are at 80% capacity and climbing with that...that includes manufacturers being very busy who supply them many are bringing new plants and capacity online soon it's a national defense issue as well |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640431 France 05/13/2019 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked so what? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77640431 the amount of money the tariffs inject into the economy makes 30 billion chump change. Federal revenue from custom duties ran at a $75 billion annual pace in the first quarter of 2019, according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis. That's lpabout 3% of total Federal government revenue. And we are paying those import tariffs, just like a new tax. no, we haven't in steel the price of steel remains largely unchanged it just prevented chinese subsidized dumping into our market the state subsidizes steel in china. they produce with no regard to supply and demand. when they overproduce they dump at unreasonably low prices. they literally want to cripple our manufacturing base. it's an economic war. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 77427246 Canada 05/13/2019 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked He should and they're billions from the tarrifs. He explained that with the billions made from the tarrifs, you put some of that money back into the industries they hurt. Common sense and obvious. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73801729 United States 05/13/2019 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked Only 1% of farmland is Organic So it is a payoff to keep GMO, Glyphosate herbicide, pesticides, and synthetic fertilizer industries going. 99% of Farmland grows franken foods covered in poison 1 in 3 Americans are getting cancer sometime in their life.. Everything is poison! Thanks government |
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Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 45888490 United States 05/13/2019 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked Good. Obama did everything he could to destroy American farms. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77448672 United States 05/13/2019 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked someone needs to do it. if those who predated him hadn't sold out our country, then this trade war wouldn't be necessary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77448672 So how's this socialism working out for ya? it's not, it was socialism the wealth was taken from poor, middle and upper class Americans and given to 3rd world china and others. This "trade war" is merely ending that bullshit. But in order to help during the "war" the farmers should get help, once it's over they won't need the help. Besides we've already seen that China can't meet their food budget without US farmers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69638402 United States 05/13/2019 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked someone needs to do it. if those who predated him hadn't sold out our country, then this trade war wouldn't be necessary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77448672 So how's this socialism working out for ya? it's not, it was socialism the wealth was taken from poor, middle and upper class Americans and given to 3rd world china and others. This "trade war" is merely ending that bullshit. But in order to help during the "war" the farmers should get help, once it's over they won't need the help. Besides we've already seen that China can't meet their food budget without US farmers. You do realize that there are other countries in the world whose agricultural products are becoming cheaper than the US, right? That's who China is placing orders with now. Those countries' farmers gain. American farmers' loss. |
Vicious Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 45888490 United States 05/13/2019 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked What did Obama do that caused greater losses to farmers than this? If you don't know that Obama treated farmers about like he did the coal industry, you need to educate yourself. Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 05/13/2019 08:14 PM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75849062 United States 05/13/2019 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked Really what the fuck does the national debt matter anyway . Who gives a shit anymore its not like were ever gonna pay it back . Go ahead and help out the farmers they need it . As long as were the worlds reserve currency it doesn’t matter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77642049 United States 05/13/2019 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump seeks new $15 billion in bailouts to protect farmers from his own trade war in addition to $12 billion already esrmarked President Donald Trump is seeking an additional $15 billion in U.S. subsidies in an effort to protect farmers from the devastating impact of his trade war with China. That’s on top of $12 billion already earmarked for the farmers to help them weather the fallout. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72310812 That would be an additional bill for U.S. taxpayers already shouldering the cost of increased tariffs in the form of higher costs for products and parts from China. Trump revealed the subsidy figure in a tweet Friday. He suggested the government use the funds to buy agricultural products to ship to other nations for humanitarian aid, though setting up such a system would be extremely complicated. In his most recent budget proposal. The president appeared to dismiss the impact of the cost as he falsely claimed — again — that “massive” tariff payments are being paid by China “directly” to the U.S. Treasury, which would presumably be used to cover the cost of the subsidy. There is “absolutely no need to rush” to negotiate a deal with China, he tweeted. In fact, the tariffs are paid by U.S. importers, who pass on the extra costs to the American consumer in the form of higher prices for products, a fact White House economic adviser Larry Kudlowadmitted Sunday. Economists have estimated that the trade war is costing the U.S. more than $3 billion a month. [link to www.aol.com (secure)] And what about the floods? Guess that had no impact right? |