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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77664365 United States 07/09/2019 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! "I see it as the single most important issue and what made America the light of the world. Self ownership is paramout." ^^^^^this^^^^^ or man will howl to a pitiless sky for God knows how long |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 07/09/2019 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Revbo™ The difference is, those toll roads were built by private companies and you are driving on their private property. Iran does not own the Persian Gulf. nor does the US and the US should not be there with military presence tankers sure, but no need for warships there can you imagine if iran had war ships in the gulf of mexico, you would think it an act of war People fall to realize, it's called the Persian gulf, owned by the persains for thousands of years LOL...it is an international body of water. Anybody can go where they please in an international body of water. If they want to have a warship tagging alone for their protection because of pirates or stupid Iranians...then so be it. Again, Islamic countries follow ISLAMIC LAW, it is above any other law according to ISLAMIC LAW. Therefore, there is no maritime, international, UN, or Western LAW that will tell ISLAM what to do. Get it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 07/09/2019 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! If you use our waterway, you pay the toll. Its known as the Persian Gulf, right for time of Xerxes the Great. And I like you beard, though its smaller than mine. The Ayatollah NOT Iranian waters. International accord several eons ago established the Straits of Hormuz as international waters, belonging to no country. Look on chart 62392, plain as can be. Those are our waters, from the time of Xerxes. We dont accept international agreements, now that you've gone back on the P5+1 nuclear deal. The logic is just like the Chinese claim the South China seas, since it was theirs from the time of Quin Shih-Huang, the esteemed Chinese Emperor. The Ayatollah If history serves me correctly, Xerxes got the shit kicked out of him by the Greeks. Alexander went on to invade and conquer Persia, embarrassing them badly. Maybe we’ll let the Greeks kick your asses again, hmm? |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 07/09/2019 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: MissCleo Conflicts with Port of Call LAWS that are under Sharia LAW. AND Islamic territory includes all waters. Same reason Palestine (doesn't exist) is fighting Israel for rights to fishing waters 5 miles off shore. Islam is going for Global Domination including WATERS. (whole earth). Sharia LAW says that any infidel must pay jizya (protection tax). Saudi has been the ONLY one collecting this tax (through OPEC) until Petro-Dollar ended in March. Now Iran wants it's share. So why doesn't Saudi share with Iran? Mortal enemies. Been supressing the Shia for centuries. Why doesn't Iran go after Saudi? They are through the US (same way North Korea went through US to get to China's suppression). See where this is going? This is not about Port of Call laws. This is about the international maritime laws agreed upon and signed by every nation on the planet in 1982, including Iran. Any nation that goes rouge against that agreement with armed forces action will have every nation on the planet given full authorization to wage war instantly. This is above and beyond anything even the United nations has done with their edicts. really? Are you military? Or a maritime lawyer? Where does this info come from? Common sense? Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843 so you don't like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can own for defense but you have no problem with the same US govt telling other people what weapons they cannot have for defense got it you're a hypocrite not a "hypocrite", we're America. America First!! yeah you are a hypocrite if you do not like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can and cannot have but you have no problem with the same US govt telling others what weapons they can and cannot have I'm for the US government holding Iran to the same standards it holds its own citizens. If I can't have a nuclear weapon (and I can't), neither can Iran. And that's being generous. I am much more trustworthy than the ayatollah. the US government does not want you to have an assault rifles let alone a nuke and you get all upset over that. PS way to make yourself, and individual, equivalent to a nation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77027273 United States 07/09/2019 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: tkwasny This is not about Port of Call laws. This is about the international maritime laws agreed upon and signed by every nation on the planet in 1982, including Iran. Any nation that goes rouge against that agreement with armed forces action will have every nation on the planet given full authorization to wage war instantly. This is above and beyond anything even the United nations has done with their edicts. really? Are you military? Or a maritime lawyer? Where does this info come from? Common sense? Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world... But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them... I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! Good for them. If I have to pay a toll to drive down a perfectly safe highway then ships should have to pay tolls to cross a dangerous body of water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76965357 The difference is, those toll roads were built by private companies and you are driving on their private property. Iran does not own the Persian Gulf. nor does the US and the US should not be there with military presence tankers sure, but no need for warships there can you imagine if iran had war ships in the gulf of mexico, you would think it an act of war Become a hegemon. Then, you can put your navy wherever you want. That's how it has worked since time immemorial. You think Xerxes the Great gave a damn about the Greeks' maritime rights when he burned Athens to the ground? Iran doesn't own the Persian Gulf, we will not be paying any tribute to them, and you can call people hypocrites on GLP all day long and none of that is going to change. And no, I would not consider Iranian navy in the Gulf of Mexico an act of war unless, of course, they entered our territorial waters without permission or fired on somebody. They even said they were going to send ships over here earlier this year to Cuba, and the response was a great big yawn. They never made it, incidentally. always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!" then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death. nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you" ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843 so you are fine with the US govt telling people what weapons they should be allowed to have then got it..you are anti-2nd amendment do you own any ar-15s? cause the US govt does not think you should have them You just made one of the lamest logic fails ever in the history of GLP. I mean....not only am I going to make you look stupid...you're going to feel stupid as well. The second amendment is to keep my family safe. My government is an extension of my 2nd amendment...once again keeping my family safe. You're a great big fat dumb worthless pussy. LOL! :billlaugh: so you don't want the US govt to tell you what weapons to have and you want weapons for defense, to protect yourself. but you are fine with the US govt telling other countries what weapons they cannot have for defense got it Chip is wasting his precious sweet breath on you dumbasses. says the person wasting their precious breath sucking off the deep state globalist military industrial complex might wanna come up for air, you're turning blue |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843 so you don't like the US govt telling YOU what weapons you can own for defense but you have no problem with the same US govt telling other people what weapons they cannot have for defense got it you're a hypocrite My government doesn't really fuck with my life. I own what I want. Iran however....needs to be put ion their place. Especially if they can't shut their trap. A lot like you. Why don't you do us all a favor and STFU. :want: If you have a social security number you own nothing. I'm okay with that. The semblance works for me. I came into this world with nothing...I'll go out the same way. chip is also fine with the government regulating weapons and telling citizens what weapons they can and cannot have which is weird for a dude with an assault rifle in his sig |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76411207 Canada 07/09/2019 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! The Islamist Mullahs and Ayatollahs and their backers are Not Persian! They are an occupying regime with followers of extremist cult that have culturally/socially devastated the Iranian people since Islamic Revolution of 1978. There are millions of Iranians worldwide in exile and inside Iran who want nothing to do with nuclear weapons and want to go back to secular Iran that’s open to all people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75386295 ...and we're also against the U.S sanctions. You forgot to mention that. It's only hurting the public. And we don't want the MEK with the help of John Bolton and Pompeo to gain power cause they're some commie lunatics and we hate Saudi Arabia cause they are the ones who have destabilized the mid east. No I didn’t forget!! Iran’s oil revenue goes straight in the hands of the Ayatollahs, if the Islamic regime is not paying its government workers or others, it’s just what it needs to be until those who are supporting the regime realize they need to stop selling out their country and their children’s future. As for the seizing bank accounts of the top brass, I’m sure there aren’t any mothers without infant formula because of that either. Without the pain of sanctions, they would be worthless! For 40 years a segment of the population has been getting fat off the blood and pain of the rest, and frankly it’s about time the feel the pain they’ve dealt on the majority! Obviously I’m not one who cares much about the blood thirsty Islamists or the backers of the Mullah regime. |
KIT User ID: 76127092 United States 07/09/2019 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Revbo™ The difference is, those toll roads were built by private companies and you are driving on their private property. Iran does not own the Persian Gulf. nor does the US and the US should not be there with military presence tankers sure, but no need for warships there can you imagine if iran had war ships in the gulf of mexico, you would think it an act of war Become a hegemon. Then, you can put your navy wherever you want. That's how it has worked since time immemorial. You think Xerxes the Great gave a damn about the Greeks' maritime rights when he burned Athens to the ground? Iran doesn't own the Persian Gulf, we will not be paying any tribute to them, and you can call people hypocrites on GLP all day long and none of that is going to change. And no, I would not consider Iranian navy in the Gulf of Mexico an act of war unless, of course, they entered our territorial waters without permission or fired on somebody. They even said they were going to send ships over here earlier this year to Cuba, and the response was a great big yawn. They never made it, incidentally. always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!" then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death. nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you" ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all! Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die. Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843 nor does the US and the US should not be there with military presence tankers sure, but no need for warships there can you imagine if iran had war ships in the gulf of mexico, you would think it an act of war People fall to realize, it's called the Persian gulf, owned by the persains for thousands of years LOL...it is an international body of water. Anybody can go where they please in an international body of water. If they want to have a warship tagging alone for their protection because of pirates or stupid Iranians...then so be it. Again, Islamic countries follow ISLAMIC LAW, it is above any other law according to ISLAMIC LAW. Therefore, there is no maritime, international, UN, or Western LAW that will tell ISLAM what to do. Get it? and the US EMPIRE follow their own rule of law, it is above all other international laws and regulations according to US chicken hawks. Therefore there is no maritime, international, UN, or ANY LAW that will tell the US EMPRIE what to do. Get it? If the US EMPRIE wants to murder innocent people and steal their land and resources, the US EMPIRE cares not for international law or ethics or morals |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999843 nor does the US and the US should not be there with military presence tankers sure, but no need for warships there can you imagine if iran had war ships in the gulf of mexico, you would think it an act of war Become a hegemon. Then, you can put your navy wherever you want. That's how it has worked since time immemorial. You think Xerxes the Great gave a damn about the Greeks' maritime rights when he burned Athens to the ground? Iran doesn't own the Persian Gulf, we will not be paying any tribute to them, and you can call people hypocrites on GLP all day long and none of that is going to change. And no, I would not consider Iranian navy in the Gulf of Mexico an act of war unless, of course, they entered our territorial waters without permission or fired on somebody. They even said they were going to send ships over here earlier this year to Cuba, and the response was a great big yawn. They never made it, incidentally. always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!" then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death. nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you" ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all! Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die. Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery. so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then got it the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you." americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you." you sound like the police state |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: tkwasny This is not about Port of Call laws. This is about the international maritime laws agreed upon and signed by every nation on the planet in 1982, including Iran. Any nation that goes rouge against that agreement with armed forces action will have every nation on the planet given full authorization to wage war instantly. This is above and beyond anything even the United nations has done with their edicts. really? Are you military? Or a maritime lawyer? Where does this info come from? Common sense? Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources? |
KITt User ID: 76127092 United States 07/09/2019 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Revbo™ Become a hegemon. Then, you can put your navy wherever you want. That's how it has worked since time immemorial. You think Xerxes the Great gave a damn about the Greeks' maritime rights when he burned Athens to the ground? Iran doesn't own the Persian Gulf, we will not be paying any tribute to them, and you can call people hypocrites on GLP all day long and none of that is going to change. And no, I would not consider Iranian navy in the Gulf of Mexico an act of war unless, of course, they entered our territorial waters without permission or fired on somebody. They even said they were going to send ships over here earlier this year to Cuba, and the response was a great big yawn. They never made it, incidentally. always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!" then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death. nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you" ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all! Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die. Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery. so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then got it the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you." americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you." you sound like the police state Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die. The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426 always love it when people call the use an empire, and point out they have military bases all over the world not for th eBS line to protect freedom, but to protect the US empire and you tards all say "the US is not an empire!!" then when rubber hits the round, you all proudly assert not only is the US is an empire but assert the US empire's right to steal resources from sovereign nations through military force and bombs and death. nothing say peace freedom and linerty for all like "we are a hegemony bitch and we'll fucking drop bombs and missiles on your citizens and take whatever the fuck we want from you" ah freedom and liberty and democracy for all! Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die. Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery. so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then got it the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you." americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you." you sound like the police state Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die. The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption. uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon. why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember? and on and on the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL. soooooooooo NOPE |
KIT User ID: 76127092 United States 07/09/2019 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: MissCleo really? Are you military? Or a maritime lawyer? Where does this info come from? Common sense? Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources? It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from. We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption. 1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor. 2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1. We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! I'm okay with that. The semblance works for me. I came into this world with nothing...I'll go out the same way. chip is also fine with the government regulating weapons and telling citizens what weapons they can and cannot have which is weird for a dude with an assault rifle in his sig I'm not okay that. Just because you're a dumbfuck and you don't understand my point doesn't mean you can put words in my mouth. Got it you little cunt?!! but you said: and yet your government tells you you cannot have bump stocks and is trying to make it so you cannot own assault rifles. and you implied the government does nothing and leaves what you own alone. yet you rant and rave about the govt trying to tell you that you cannot own assault rifles. soooooooo NOPE |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 07/09/2019 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: MissCleo really? Are you military? Or a maritime lawyer? Where does this info come from? Common sense? Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world... But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them... I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls... POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW). SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point. THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money. IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US. see where this is going? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: tkwasny Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources? It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from. We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption. 1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor. 2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1. We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal. thank you for proving my point to Revbo about how when you tell people the US is an empire they say "no it's not" then you yourself said the US owns all the resources of the world, it all belongs to us... that is not an empire? and again you sound exactly like the deep state globalist police state "we do what we want and we will murder you if you challenge us" what a true patriot you are as you perfectly spew totalitarian NWO deep state talking points! |
KIT User ID: 76127092 United States 07/09/2019 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: KIT 76127092 Glad your starting to recognize American superiority. All of the resources of this planet are ours to do as we see fit. You can either trade in exchange for our fiat. Or fucking die. Our military can and will fucking kill you. Once again to explain this to you. All of the planets resources are American property to be used when we see fit. And there is nothing you can do about that as we can enforce this through warfare or economic fuckery. so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then got it the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you." americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you." you sound like the police state Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die. The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption. uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon. why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember? and on and on the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL. soooooooooo NOPE Thats just what we tell you. It makes it easier to print green pieces of paper to trade for your shit. We really dont fucking care about your peace and safety. All those American military bases are for protecting America and securing GLOBAL resources for our consumption. And you think we are going to let Iran dictate to us. They are fucking dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: tkwasny Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? Good luck with the argument that religious laws that only apply to Muslims have to be obeyed by every other country in the world... But you made a great point, Iranians feel they are above all the maritime laws and treaties they have signed in the past and that they don't have to abide by any of them... I cannot wait until they attack the first civilian vessel and sink it for not paying their tolls... POINT: There has to be a clear case that Iran violated LAW. If it comes down to it, the US cannot attack Iran because the holder of Islamic High Court (Saudi) will stand by Sharia LAW over ANY other law (that's their LAW). Non-secular (not "religious" law, this is their GOVERNMENTAL LAW). SO... in order to go to WAR... the US has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran is in violation. And we cannot at this point. THEREFORE: more of the same until someone (Iran) uses force against the ones not sharing jizya (protection tax) with them... because Iran is really broke (sanctions) and needs the money. IF: Saudi shares jizya with Iran then Saudi violates sanctions imposed by US. see where this is going? why do you care what other countries do? I thought you were an america first nationalist? why do you gie a FUCK what any middle eastern country does? oh right cuz muslims scare you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58970426 United States 07/09/2019 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58970426 so I guess the whole peace and freedom and democracy line is bullshit then got it the whole notion that the US keeps the peace and protects freedom and emocracy for all people is obvious transparent total 100% grade A bullshit nothing says protecting freedom and democracy like "Our military can and will fucking kill you." americans, so peaceful and freedom loving! fireworks, flags, hot dogs, freedom and democracy!!! "Our military can and will fucking kill you." you sound like the police state Peace and freedom for American citizens. The rest of the worlds peoples are invalids that I could not give to fucking fucks about. Give your us your shit or die. The only reason we allow you to live. For now. Is that your useful for extracting the mineral resources out of the ground and shipping it to us for consumption. uhhh that's not the official US narrative there charlie... the US prides itslef on protectign freedom and demcoracy for people all over the globe why do you think the US wants to help the people of venezuela? they claim the venezuela's freedoms are being infringed upon. why did we need to get rid of saddam? freedom for Iraq remember? and on and on the US claims it has military bases all over the globe to help protect GLOBAL freedom and democracy for ALL. soooooooooo NOPE Thats just what we tell you. It makes it easier to print green pieces of paper to trade for your shit. We really dont fucking care about your peace and safety. All those American military bases are for protecting America and securing GLOBAL resources for our consumption. And you think we are going to let Iran dictate to us. They are fucking dead. yeah no shit sherlock that is the point I have been making not real quick on sarcasm and writing mechanisms are ya the US military cna fuck people up... you, on the other hand... can't do shit... and I bet even that lezbo soccer player could twist you up til you were face down and ass up crying uncle!!! mr.big bad US military gonna kill you man!!! sooooooooooo scary and tough online! |
KIT User ID: 76127092 United States 07/09/2019 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources? It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from. We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption. 1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor. 2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1. We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal. thank you for proving my point to Revbo about how when you tell people the US is an empire they say "no it's not" then you yourself said the US owns all the resources of the world, it all belongs to us... that is not an empire? and again you sound exactly like the deep state globalist police state "we do what we want and we will murder you if you challenge us" what a true patriot you are as you perfectly spew totalitarian NWO deep state talking points! I dont think you understand what an empire actually is. An empire annexes more land and "colonizes" that land. America is not interested in your turd world shit holes. We dont want to colonize the world. We just want your mineral wealth. The shit in the ground that you dont know how to use or mine. Thats why our military is global. We just want your resources. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF COLONIZING YOUR LANDS. We do however have no qualms with bombing the fuck out of you. Until you submit and plundering your shit for our use. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6457177 United States 07/09/2019 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran tells Trump : now you have to pay a toll and pay for protection if you want to use the straight of hormuz! ... Quoting: tkwasny Well, ya. I've been teaching the maritime rules of the road to armed forces CO's, XO's, OPS and cadets since 91. I got my 100-ton license and still take the deck watch officers exam every year, since I teach it. Thanks. How about Islamic law, and Sharia law? How bout the fact the US Empire ignores all international law and just invades countries and regime changes them and steals their resources? It is a fact that I as an American citizen fully acknowledge and benefit from. We do not have an Empire though. I will explain this to you. We have two methods of getting things we need for consumption. 1. You can either accept our dollars in trade for you mineral resources or human labor. 2. You can get blown the fuck up, your government toppled and a puppet will be installed. See 1. We do this with no consequences or fear of reprisal. Then it's called a dictatorship? |