Happy December 7th: Pearl Harbor Was A False Flag Using US-Trained Chinese Pilots | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ROC Air Force was reconstituted into seven Groups, one separate Squadron and four Volunteer Groups. In 1939, after the USSR concluded a non-aggression pact with Germany, the Soviet Volunteer Group was withdrawn. By the end of 1941, the air force had 364 operational aircraft. Up to 100 of these were P-40Bs operated by the American Volunteer Group. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't believe me? Try to find a Japanese pilot shot down/captured by America on Dec 7. Where are the bodies? Where are the aircraft? Why did the Navy storm Ni'ihau to furtively remove the "Japanese pilot" who crashed there (resulting the deaths of several locals?) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely fascinating - just one of the many mysteries surrounding the [alleged] civilian airplanes aloft the morning of December 7, 1941: [link to issuu.com (secure)] These 'civilian' pilots and aircraft, and how they got to be where they were that morning, is a vast research topic in itself. Definitely NOT boring :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now for the premature death list... Of the group of pilots flying allegedly-civilian plans just in time to see the Japanese attack, so far two at least died prematurely: Cornelia Fort (d. 1943 aged 24) A flight officer, Frank Stamme, Jr., had been flying tandem with Fort; he kept approaching her plane, then pulling back, and finally struck her wing after which she crashed and perished. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Royal A. Vitousek (d. 1947, aged 56) Heart attack; no details given. Royal Vitousek was not just a lawyer, as usually mentioned in the Pearl Harbor accounts - he was a major, major politician and assistant police chief. After surviving the Japanese attack on their small light plane on Dec 7, Royal drove straight to the police station whence his 17 year old son Martin allegedly drove the first news of the attack to stations KGV and KGMB. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74721755 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always suspected 12-7 was NOT Japanese in origin. Read Stinnett's excellent Day of Deceit. The evidence of US knowledge is overwhelming. Unlike Stinnett, I don't believe the Japanese were anywhere near Oahu. Too much evidences pointing to those "Zeros" being launched from USN boats. Never mind the J. Edgar Hoover bullshit component. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the Pacific Fleet was ordered Quoting: Transition docked by 12-7-41 at Pearl and all Sailors ordered to shore leave. Guns unattended! WW II starts thanks to FDR and the Deep State. Depression ended. ![]() And just as importantly, the most important ships--including carriers--were ordered to "undisclosed locations" some miles away from Pearl. It was from these ships that the attack was launched. J. Edgar Hoover heard whiffs of this and tried frantically to get in on the action. He sent covert radio operatives to Pearl weeks before December 7 to set up a new kind of radio network that could communicate secretly and directly with several stations stateside. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74721755 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the Japanese minisub theory; my thing is I don't think they were Japanese sadly. Well we already had plenty of "training targets" painted in Japanese colors. If anyone saw one we'd just say they were for "training." Did you know that acc to Pearl survivors the base was put on and off alert like 40 times in the weeks leading up to the 7th? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's face it, no one knows who really attacked Pearl. That's the problem. With all due respect, England was doing literally everything possible both overly and covertly to force the US into the war. But "force" is the wrong word; FDR wanted in. He needed a reason. Put the blame where you will. |
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Copperhead User ID: 78179015 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the Pacific Fleet was ordered Quoting: Transition docked by 12-7-41 at Pearl and all Sailors ordered to shore leave. Guns unattended! WW II starts thanks to FDR and the Deep State. Depression ended. ![]() From the time of its inception until May of 1940, the fleet was stationed primarily at San Diego, but that changed when the Empire of Japan became very aggressive in its expansionism. San Diego was deemed too far from Japan should open hostilities break out. During the summer of 1940, the Battle Fleet was transferred to Pearl Harbor on Oahu, a part of the American Territory of Hawaii. The fleet’s commander at the time, Admiral James O. Richardson, opposed the long-term use of Pearl Harbor as its base. When he personally protested the idea, he was replaced by Admiral Husband E. Kimmel. [link to visitpearlharbor.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FDR's (de facto) maneuvering of the fleet into "harm's way" is crystal clear. Only it wasn't really in harm's way - only 3000 sailors and civilians and a few outdated WWI-era boats were. Notice that the power grid was left intact; the fuel cells were left intact. Fake attack, fake Japanese. Nothing fake about the deaths (except those of the Japanese pilots). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the Japanese minisub theory; my thing is I don't think they were Japanese sadly. It was the Japanese, but they were goaded into playing their role for the International players behind the scenes. That's the Level II story. The one designed to siphon off the remainder of public opinion. Level I is "Oswald did it/Pearl was the Japs." Level II is "Grassy knoll/Pearl was FDR goading the Japs." Level III/IV is where the real story is. The strike on Pearl itself wasn't the Japanese. |
Copperhead User ID: 78179015 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's face it, no one knows who really attacked Pearl. That's the problem. With all due respect, England was doing literally everything possible both overly and covertly to force the US into the war. But "force" is the wrong word; FDR wanted in. He needed a reason. Put the blame where you will. FDR got us into war with "Lend Lease". Pearl Harbor just gave him cover to make it official and get the masses behind it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's face it, no one knows who really attacked Pearl. That's the problem. With all due respect, England was doing literally everything possible both overly and covertly to force the US into the war. But "force" is the wrong word; FDR wanted in. He needed a reason. Put the blame where you will. FDR got us into war with "Lend Lease". Pearl Harbor just gave him cover to make it official and get the masses behind it. Truth. The problem with goading is that it's not guaranteed to work. FDR did what was guaranteed to work. Sad but true. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73104839 ![]() 12/07/2019 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if you guys are aware but the son and daughters of two Pearl sailors are going to publish lightly-edited versions of their dads' diaries and duty logs on Dec 7, 2021. It will be the most significant turning of the wheel since Stinnett's slightly misguided but otherwise outstanding tome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73104839 P.S. DHS don't kill these people m'kay thanks. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77067311 ![]() 12/07/2019 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if you guys are aware but the son and daughters of two Pearl sailors are going to publish lightly-edited versions of their dads' diaries and duty logs on Dec 7, 2021. It will be the most significant turning of the wheel since Stinnett's slightly misguided but otherwise outstanding tome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73104839 DAMN I hope that's true. Where did you hear this and are they open to contact? |
anoymous coward User ID: 50318129 ![]() 12/07/2019 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the Pacific Fleet was ordered Quoting: Transition docked by 12-7-41 at Pearl and all Sailors ordered to shore leave. Guns unattended! WW II starts thanks to FDR and the Deep State. Depression ended. ![]() And just as importantly, the most important ships--including carriers--were ordered to "undisclosed locations" some miles away from Pearl. It was from these ships that the attack was launched. J. Edgar Hoover heard whiffs of this and tried frantically to get in on the action. He sent covert radio operatives to Pearl weeks before December 7 to set up a new kind of radio network that could communicate secretly and directly with several stations stateside. Disagree that the carriers at sea "launched" the attack. My father was on the USS Lexington that day. True, the carriers had been sent out of Pearl a week before the attack. But had they been involved in sending planes to bomb Pearl and kill their friends in port?, didn't happen. My dad would have spent the rest of his 97 years screaming from the rooftops to expose this if true. But yes, FDR knew of and welcomed impending attack (read Stinnett's excellent book Day of Deceit) in order to generate American support for US going to war in Europe. It was a set up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73104839 ![]() 12/07/2019 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if you guys are aware but the son and daughters of two Pearl sailors are going to publish lightly-edited versions of their dads' diaries and duty logs on Dec 7, 2021. It will be the most significant turning of the wheel since Stinnett's slightly misguided but otherwise outstanding tome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73104839 DAMN I hope that's true. Where did you hear this and are they open to contact? They lawyered up and if I'm not mistaken have left CONUS or had already left. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73104839 ![]() 12/07/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the Pacific Fleet was ordered Quoting: Transition docked by 12-7-41 at Pearl and all Sailors ordered to shore leave. Guns unattended! WW II starts thanks to FDR and the Deep State. Depression ended. ![]() And just as importantly, the most important ships--including carriers--were ordered to "undisclosed locations" some miles away from Pearl. It was from these ships that the attack was launched. J. Edgar Hoover heard whiffs of this and tried frantically to get in on the action. He sent covert radio operatives to Pearl weeks before December 7 to set up a new kind of radio network that could communicate secretly and directly with several stations stateside. Disagree that the carriers at sea "launched" the attack. My father was on the USS Lexington that day. True, the carriers had been sent out of Pearl a week before the attack. But had they been involved in sending planes to bomb Pearl and kill their friends in port?, didn't happen. My dad would have spent the rest of his 97 years screaming from the rooftops to expose this if true. But yes, FDR knew of and welcomed impending attack (read Stinnett's excellent book Day of Deceit) in order to generate American support for US going to war in Europe. It was a set up. It was a set up indeed. The pilots were not Japanese and did not come from Japanese ships. They were Asian though. With all due respect to your dad I doubt he personally interviewed any "Japanese" pilots. Any plane can be painted. And was. |